Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below My girl has been using my anabolic stash lately. She has some fits of depression sometimes, and I told her that she might get off on a little test. Well, she loves it. I don't want her to grow a set of balls or anything. Now everytime, I give myself a blast (actually she does it for me) she wants one too. Basically I have been giving her low doses of test 50mg and like 50mg of EQ in one shot. She has been taking anavar at 10mg a day too. This is really cutting into my already outrageous drug habbit, and I was wondering if anyone could honestly tell me what is cool for a chick to do? I heard tnygirl has done some cycles and might have some real answers for me, but I can't find her on the search.
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miles said:
OK I need some clarification:
1. Are you giving her shots of test b/c of her depression? Is that the reason?
2. SHe is on anavar also, how long, details?
3. Is your concern that she is "pinching" from your "stash"?
4. What do you mean by "COOL" for a chick to do?
5. There are plenty of women here that can give "REAL" answers!
6. Why isn't your girlfriend on here?
Phemomena
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question for you... is she aware of what she is putting into her body, the possible side/consequenses etc?
i'm not knocking AS use, i'm on Anavar myself, but gear isn't a quick fix for anything, never mind emotional distress!!!
from what you've told us, i have no idea of your gals stats/goals and really why she's doing this other than for a hormonal adjustment... she really needs to address these type of issues with her doctor, it looks like she may be setting herself up for a really hard fall, not to mention some pretty nasty sides if she's not careful...
get her on the boards, do some research and some serious thought into what she really wants for herself... women can get great results from AS, when used correct at low dosages, but they rarely need to stack...
also, tell her to get her own gear... when she realizes the money and effort that goes into acquiring some of this stuff she might be a lot more reasonable about it
i'm not knocking AS use, i'm on Anavar myself, but gear isn't a quick fix for anything, never mind emotional distress!!!
from what you've told us, i have no idea of your gals stats/goals and really why she's doing this other than for a hormonal adjustment... she really needs to address these type of issues with her doctor, it looks like she may be setting herself up for a really hard fall, not to mention some pretty nasty sides if she's not careful...
get her on the boards, do some research and some serious thought into what she really wants for herself... women can get great results from AS, when used correct at low dosages, but they rarely need to stack...
also, tell her to get her own gear... when she realizes the money and effort that goes into acquiring some of this stuff she might be a lot more reasonable about it
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new@gettinbig
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Your girl needs to do some major research!!! This is no game and there can be some serious consequences she may not want to come across....Does she even workout??? What is she trying to accomplish??? Its not something you tap into for fun or to give you a little pick me up. You are putting some serious stuff in her body...which can result in some major sides if you are not careful!! For a first cycle a female should stick to one drug...not stacking, so that way, you are sure of what is producing sides, gains and working for you. If she is on multiple things....u will have NO clue what is working and what doesnt. Anavar would be a good choice for her to start w/. But cycles should be carefully planned out and not taken lightly. The fact u asked what is cool for a chick to take worries me...i get the feeling its being done for the wrong reasons.....and u are not taking into any consideration that something could happen to her.....Be SMART...Get her on the boards....she truly needs to educate herself and find out what she is willing to risk etc. She does not want to live w/ regrets!!!!!!!
thanks everyone
First of all I want to thank everybody for their responses. I am concerned that she is pinching from my stash to some degree, because I don't think she has a full grasp of how much money it costs. Secondly, she was working out three days a week with a really great trainer and was making super progress untill her company went under and she got laid off. Then she got really depressed and she is taking zoloft right now. I don't know what all is going on with her right now, but she recently fell in the bathtub and knocked her head. I thought she was hung over from drinking jack daniels the night before, but now I think it is from some other fundamental problem. She has spent days and days at the hospital getting cat scans, taking tests, etc, and all they can tell her to do is lay in bed and rest. She is pissed off at not being able to function and she feels really bad because she needs the money. I am trying to get her on these boards, but last time we posted some semi-nude pics and people were really ass holes about them, and she doesn't think the people on these boards are very smart or worth a shit. I am trying to tell her that there are some good people out there, but it will still be awhile until I can get her actually on her. Her name is Katie, and I love her, so I am not trying to fuck her up. She wants me to shoot her up after she does me, and I don't know what to give her. I have been hitting her with 100mg of cyponate + 50mg EQ because that is a low dose of what I am taking. She has lost like 55 pounds in the last year, and she has transformed herself from ugly to pretty darn nice, by normal standards, but being with me has become a problem, because I am really into this shit, and I want a woman with good muscularity. She gets jealous as shit when I look at some womans legs in the gym, and I think she wants to look nice for me. She has been on anavar for about a month now, 10mg per day. By "cool', I mean what amounts will not fuck her up so bad she kills herself or anything when she comes off.
Everybody who answered me thanks, thanks, thanks, this is a very serious post, and I want to do the best thing for her.
First of all I want to thank everybody for their responses. I am concerned that she is pinching from my stash to some degree, because I don't think she has a full grasp of how much money it costs. Secondly, she was working out three days a week with a really great trainer and was making super progress untill her company went under and she got laid off. Then she got really depressed and she is taking zoloft right now. I don't know what all is going on with her right now, but she recently fell in the bathtub and knocked her head. I thought she was hung over from drinking jack daniels the night before, but now I think it is from some other fundamental problem. She has spent days and days at the hospital getting cat scans, taking tests, etc, and all they can tell her to do is lay in bed and rest. She is pissed off at not being able to function and she feels really bad because she needs the money. I am trying to get her on these boards, but last time we posted some semi-nude pics and people were really ass holes about them, and she doesn't think the people on these boards are very smart or worth a shit. I am trying to tell her that there are some good people out there, but it will still be awhile until I can get her actually on her. Her name is Katie, and I love her, so I am not trying to fuck her up. She wants me to shoot her up after she does me, and I don't know what to give her. I have been hitting her with 100mg of cyponate + 50mg EQ because that is a low dose of what I am taking. She has lost like 55 pounds in the last year, and she has transformed herself from ugly to pretty darn nice, by normal standards, but being with me has become a problem, because I am really into this shit, and I want a woman with good muscularity. She gets jealous as shit when I look at some womans legs in the gym, and I think she wants to look nice for me. She has been on anavar for about a month now, 10mg per day. By "cool', I mean what amounts will not fuck her up so bad she kills herself or anything when she comes off.
Everybody who answered me thanks, thanks, thanks, this is a very serious post, and I want to do the best thing for her.
Phemomena
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with that information, what would be 'cool' for her would be to get herself in the gym regularily... get off all the AS and get her head together... sorry to say, but you are not helping your situation... (and the amount you said you are giving her has increased from the first post... are you sure thats it, or next post will there be something else to add?)
if you do infact love her, you'll see that she's doing what she's doing for the wrong reasons, and it sounds like she's heading down a path that you probably don't want to see her go... it sucks that she's been dealt with a crummy hand in life as of late, but she needs to get through this without relying on substances (if the doctor has prescribed zoloft, then so be it, but its not a be all and end all fix, she still needs to work through the problems, not run away from them)
then theres the issue of some unknown health problems... if she's not working out, the AS is really just nothing more than a waste of money and a risk of some sides in the first place... she needs the rest (and who knows what other medication she's on for this other health issues, there is way too many possibilities for unforeseen issues/interactions in situations like this).. and hopefully she's given up drinking!!!
she needs to get herself healthy, and you need to help her by not adding to this problem... get her moving around a bit... go for walks with her, buy her a small set of weights ect... if you really want to help her out, get her to a good therapist who can help her go through these issues with her... if you truly love her, you'll pay more attention to her and the underlying issues rather than trying to help her mask the problems... and stop comparing her to other girls, that isn't helping her self-esteem and confidence in this situation, she needs to know that you'll be beside her supporting her through the tough times (she probably fears loosing you along with everything else she's lost recently, that's probably a little more than she can deal with at this time...)
but that's just my 2 cents...
if you do infact love her, you'll see that she's doing what she's doing for the wrong reasons, and it sounds like she's heading down a path that you probably don't want to see her go... it sucks that she's been dealt with a crummy hand in life as of late, but she needs to get through this without relying on substances (if the doctor has prescribed zoloft, then so be it, but its not a be all and end all fix, she still needs to work through the problems, not run away from them)
then theres the issue of some unknown health problems... if she's not working out, the AS is really just nothing more than a waste of money and a risk of some sides in the first place... she needs the rest (and who knows what other medication she's on for this other health issues, there is way too many possibilities for unforeseen issues/interactions in situations like this).. and hopefully she's given up drinking!!!
she needs to get herself healthy, and you need to help her by not adding to this problem... get her moving around a bit... go for walks with her, buy her a small set of weights ect... if you really want to help her out, get her to a good therapist who can help her go through these issues with her... if you truly love her, you'll pay more attention to her and the underlying issues rather than trying to help her mask the problems... and stop comparing her to other girls, that isn't helping her self-esteem and confidence in this situation, she needs to know that you'll be beside her supporting her through the tough times (she probably fears loosing you along with everything else she's lost recently, that's probably a little more than she can deal with at this time...)
but that's just my 2 cents...
Phemomena
Thanks for the response P.
100mg - 50mg no big difference!!
Anyway, you hit the nail on the head. I have gone off cycle, and she quit taking my stuff all together. I had to hide everything so she couldn't find it. I am going on little walks around the neighborhood with her, and I have set her up with a cardio bike in the garage with a sterio so she can try to get her metabolism going again.
The self confidence thing is a definite issue with her. Exactly what is going on, I don't know. I think her family was abusive when she was a kid, and she moved around a lot. She doesn't know how to have a home, and how to feel secure. She hasn't seen her shrink in a while, and I will suggest it.
So, she is off all drugs, (well maybe some dank now and then), but definitely no anabolics. She looks puffy and sad, and has a constant head ache, and hasn't gone to work for two weeks now, but I think she is getting her mind organized, and will get better.
Just basic stuff really. The other day, she was just crazy and out of her mind. She hadn't changed the sheets in days, hadn't taken a bath, was feeling rejected and like I was going to leave her, and couldn't stop crying about it. She called me at work and I couldn't even understand what she was saying. So, I went home. I got her into the tub, did the laundry, cooked her some soup, lathered her up with some good body lotion, put that stuff on her lips, got her out to walk around with me outside for a few minutes, and she has been much better since then. For some reason she forgets how to take care of herself, and I have to remind her.
You might think me an ass, but if I started acting like that, no one would take care of me. I would just die, loose my job, be picked up by the cops and thrown in jail. So, I don't let things get out of control like that; because of the consequences. Why isn't she responsible for her own wellbeing, like I am? I don't think it is fair, that I have to pull her ass along, on top of doing everything else, like paying the mortgate.
Thanks for the response P.
100mg - 50mg no big difference!!
Anyway, you hit the nail on the head. I have gone off cycle, and she quit taking my stuff all together. I had to hide everything so she couldn't find it. I am going on little walks around the neighborhood with her, and I have set her up with a cardio bike in the garage with a sterio so she can try to get her metabolism going again.
The self confidence thing is a definite issue with her. Exactly what is going on, I don't know. I think her family was abusive when she was a kid, and she moved around a lot. She doesn't know how to have a home, and how to feel secure. She hasn't seen her shrink in a while, and I will suggest it.
So, she is off all drugs, (well maybe some dank now and then), but definitely no anabolics. She looks puffy and sad, and has a constant head ache, and hasn't gone to work for two weeks now, but I think she is getting her mind organized, and will get better.
Just basic stuff really. The other day, she was just crazy and out of her mind. She hadn't changed the sheets in days, hadn't taken a bath, was feeling rejected and like I was going to leave her, and couldn't stop crying about it. She called me at work and I couldn't even understand what she was saying. So, I went home. I got her into the tub, did the laundry, cooked her some soup, lathered her up with some good body lotion, put that stuff on her lips, got her out to walk around with me outside for a few minutes, and she has been much better since then. For some reason she forgets how to take care of herself, and I have to remind her.
You might think me an ass, but if I started acting like that, no one would take care of me. I would just die, loose my job, be picked up by the cops and thrown in jail. So, I don't let things get out of control like that; because of the consequences. Why isn't she responsible for her own wellbeing, like I am? I don't think it is fair, that I have to pull her ass along, on top of doing everything else, like paying the mortgate.
Sassy69
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miles --
Yea, definitely what phem said -- maybe she got fixated on the AS because its a big thing for you and she sees you make comments about muscular girls. Sounds like that was just a convenient thing to blame at the moment.
If she's already got self-image issues, losing her job was probably a big hit to her. I think its OK to spend certain amount of time wallowing in self pity and all that - shit, we all do it! But only for a certain period of time. Sounds like you need to ask her if she truly believes that you will be there for her (i.e. not leave) and if not, why not. Maybe she needs at least that much certaintly. Then the rest is up to her. In a situation like yours, you would want to do what you can to help get her back to a happier state of mind -- anyone would! But if you keep doing it, she will start to take it for granted - start expecting it and any time you don't she will simply begin to cry about it -- that's called codependence. That doesn't move her forward, and you will become resentful of her -- anyone would.
You need to set some bounds on what you are willing to do for her, and what she has to do for herself because the situation can't continue as it sounds like it has. Don't let it go and dont' let her continue to wallow -- simply lay out a plan for her to address the things that need to happen (i.e. have her beef up her resume and start looking for a new job, get her in the gym so she has a constructive outlet for her frustration, see a doc/counselor for the deeper issues). Basically she needs to empower herself - she can't just lean on you.
Good luck! She's a very lucky lady to have you...
Yea, definitely what phem said -- maybe she got fixated on the AS because its a big thing for you and she sees you make comments about muscular girls. Sounds like that was just a convenient thing to blame at the moment.
If she's already got self-image issues, losing her job was probably a big hit to her. I think its OK to spend certain amount of time wallowing in self pity and all that - shit, we all do it! But only for a certain period of time. Sounds like you need to ask her if she truly believes that you will be there for her (i.e. not leave) and if not, why not. Maybe she needs at least that much certaintly. Then the rest is up to her. In a situation like yours, you would want to do what you can to help get her back to a happier state of mind -- anyone would! But if you keep doing it, she will start to take it for granted - start expecting it and any time you don't she will simply begin to cry about it -- that's called codependence. That doesn't move her forward, and you will become resentful of her -- anyone would.
You need to set some bounds on what you are willing to do for her, and what she has to do for herself because the situation can't continue as it sounds like it has. Don't let it go and dont' let her continue to wallow -- simply lay out a plan for her to address the things that need to happen (i.e. have her beef up her resume and start looking for a new job, get her in the gym so she has a constructive outlet for her frustration, see a doc/counselor for the deeper issues). Basically she needs to empower herself - she can't just lean on you.
Good luck! She's a very lucky lady to have you...
Phemomena
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1) any difference CAN be a big difference in a female.... may be nothing to you... but can make a load of difference in a body who's chemistry you don't understand...
2) your girlfriend needs help... it sounds like she's going through something you cannot handle by yourself... if you/she cannot afford the medical help she needs, call in her family/friends, anyone else who cares about her....
it sounds to me like she's going down a self-destructing path right now... she'll probably end up hurting herself if things aren't looked into ASAP... this should not be something that you alone should deal with... that's not fair on you... getting other people involved will also go along way into 'smacking her back into reality'... she may not care right now how she appears in your eyes, but i'd be surprised if she really wanted to let her granny/cousin sue/1st grade ballet teacher or whoever see her like this...
making sure she's eating, enough and the right stuff, food can make a huge difference in someone's mental/hormonal state... along with her physical well being... keep her moving...
also try to explain to her that her behaviour is selfish... you can't help her if she can't help herself... it sounds to me like she EXPECTS you to fix her... she needs to fix herself... you have to do this delicately, but this type of conversation (depending on the situation at hand) may bring light to the whole ordeal... your call
but top point, get some help
2) your girlfriend needs help... it sounds like she's going through something you cannot handle by yourself... if you/she cannot afford the medical help she needs, call in her family/friends, anyone else who cares about her....
it sounds to me like she's going down a self-destructing path right now... she'll probably end up hurting herself if things aren't looked into ASAP... this should not be something that you alone should deal with... that's not fair on you... getting other people involved will also go along way into 'smacking her back into reality'... she may not care right now how she appears in your eyes, but i'd be surprised if she really wanted to let her granny/cousin sue/1st grade ballet teacher or whoever see her like this...
making sure she's eating, enough and the right stuff, food can make a huge difference in someone's mental/hormonal state... along with her physical well being... keep her moving...
also try to explain to her that her behaviour is selfish... you can't help her if she can't help herself... it sounds to me like she EXPECTS you to fix her... she needs to fix herself... you have to do this delicately, but this type of conversation (depending on the situation at hand) may bring light to the whole ordeal... your call
but top point, get some help
N
new@gettinbig
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Get your girl some help before it is to late... and keep any kind of drug away from her!!!
Phemomena
Yes, I get it, 50-100mg to a girl is way different than for me.
Just to clarify. She got two or three shots - in about two weeks - I don't remember exactly. They were either 50mg cyp + 50mg equipose, because that makes the shot not hurt, or they were 100mg cyp because I was out of bolderone, and she bitched for days about how much her ass hurt with out the EQ. That's not enough to perminantly fuck up her hormones is it?
I have always been the kind of person that takes things on by himself. I don't need anyone to help me figure things out; I am very independent that way. I run my own business, and I have always made my own way. But, I can't do this one by myself. You are right I need help.
The problem is I don't have any help. Her sister is a heroine addict, and is of really no help with anything at all. I don't know if you have any experience with this kind of a person, but they are actually very dangerous. You should have been there when I extracted K from the lair where the two of them were living. What a scene that was. Her mom is so timid she isn't worth talking to either, she is afraid to drive because people are mean in traffice. She would rather hide under a rock than face anything. Her father is a dead alcholoic crazy person. She has some girl friends, but they are scared of any real problems. You know the kind of friend I am talking about, a good time friend, not real friend. So, there really isn't anyone else to help her establish her boundaries of reality besides me.
Which is kind of scary, because I am not certain that I am a very sane person to be depending on for a point of view anyway. I take crazy business risks all the time, just for the fun of it... I dont' know how to get any help besides a psychologist. I guess that is what I will suggest that we do.
Thanks so much for talking to me about this problem. People are so fucked, and fake about stuff. It is strange that some of the most helpful and wonderful people I know are just handles on the internet.
Yes, I get it, 50-100mg to a girl is way different than for me.
Just to clarify. She got two or three shots - in about two weeks - I don't remember exactly. They were either 50mg cyp + 50mg equipose, because that makes the shot not hurt, or they were 100mg cyp because I was out of bolderone, and she bitched for days about how much her ass hurt with out the EQ. That's not enough to perminantly fuck up her hormones is it?
I have always been the kind of person that takes things on by himself. I don't need anyone to help me figure things out; I am very independent that way. I run my own business, and I have always made my own way. But, I can't do this one by myself. You are right I need help.
The problem is I don't have any help. Her sister is a heroine addict, and is of really no help with anything at all. I don't know if you have any experience with this kind of a person, but they are actually very dangerous. You should have been there when I extracted K from the lair where the two of them were living. What a scene that was. Her mom is so timid she isn't worth talking to either, she is afraid to drive because people are mean in traffice. She would rather hide under a rock than face anything. Her father is a dead alcholoic crazy person. She has some girl friends, but they are scared of any real problems. You know the kind of friend I am talking about, a good time friend, not real friend. So, there really isn't anyone else to help her establish her boundaries of reality besides me.
Which is kind of scary, because I am not certain that I am a very sane person to be depending on for a point of view anyway. I take crazy business risks all the time, just for the fun of it... I dont' know how to get any help besides a psychologist. I guess that is what I will suggest that we do.
Thanks so much for talking to me about this problem. People are so fucked, and fake about stuff. It is strange that some of the most helpful and wonderful people I know are just handles on the internet.
Hi Miles,
I can really feel for what you and your girlfriend are going through.
She is very lucky to have your support and understanding. I don't know what the medical situation is where you live (I don't live in America, but have heard dreadful things about the expense). If all her her doctor can do is to prescribe Zoloft, please change doctors. A talking therapy is required here (but the Zoloft can help too, please consider it a short-term remedy, it does not cure the cause, altered brain chemistry can also be considered as a result of emotions, rather than the cause). If you cannot afford a therapist, are there any support groups in your area? Would anyone on these boards know about this scene in America?
Your love and care are so helpful to her. Yes, someone can get through depression without it, but so much more easily with it. The issue can be to not let her become too emotionally dependant on you. There are two reasons for this.
1) It can interfere with her recovery, at some stage she needs to take control of things for herself. Give her love and support, just figure out where to draw the limits. Allow her to be challenged, not overwhelmingly though. You said she is not looking after herself, set goals along these lines. For example "Today's actions are to shower, telephone one person (connecting to other supports, need not be 'therapeutic', just for some social relief is also helpful), write in journal, take a walk. Then just go from there.
2) You need to look after yourself. It's tough on the support person when someone goes through a depression. You are important too and a lot is falling on your shoulders now. Set your limits and boundaries. Take time and space for yourself. Obviously, this doesn't mean withdrawal, but it also means not allowing her use her depression as a control over you. She isn't consciously doing this, so there's no need for confrontation. Just be clear about what you expect her to do for herself.
When people are depressed, their cognitive functioning falls in a heap. Even the most basic decisions and thought processes overwhelm and frighten them, eg "Do I turn left or right at this aisle?". This can be really infuriating! Just part of the depression.
I have the same ongoing problems with my mother and her depression. This is what I have found helpful. After several years we (her children) got quite tough with her. She just didn't seem to want to recover. But she is much better now. I found that simple kindnesses, like bringing her flowers or something special to eat have a big impact. You don't need to be her therapist. In fact it's better if you're not. She may not like her therapist often (too challenging), but she does need you you to be a friend, which it sounds like you are doing admirably. I was happy to hear that you hid the gear and didn't give in to her. This is exactly the tough kind of thing you need to do. Can be hard when when you see her suffering.
I'm sorry I didn't mean for this to go on and on. Please let us know how it goes.
sww
I can really feel for what you and your girlfriend are going through.
She is very lucky to have your support and understanding. I don't know what the medical situation is where you live (I don't live in America, but have heard dreadful things about the expense). If all her her doctor can do is to prescribe Zoloft, please change doctors. A talking therapy is required here (but the Zoloft can help too, please consider it a short-term remedy, it does not cure the cause, altered brain chemistry can also be considered as a result of emotions, rather than the cause). If you cannot afford a therapist, are there any support groups in your area? Would anyone on these boards know about this scene in America?
Your love and care are so helpful to her. Yes, someone can get through depression without it, but so much more easily with it. The issue can be to not let her become too emotionally dependant on you. There are two reasons for this.
1) It can interfere with her recovery, at some stage she needs to take control of things for herself. Give her love and support, just figure out where to draw the limits. Allow her to be challenged, not overwhelmingly though. You said she is not looking after herself, set goals along these lines. For example "Today's actions are to shower, telephone one person (connecting to other supports, need not be 'therapeutic', just for some social relief is also helpful), write in journal, take a walk. Then just go from there.
2) You need to look after yourself. It's tough on the support person when someone goes through a depression. You are important too and a lot is falling on your shoulders now. Set your limits and boundaries. Take time and space for yourself. Obviously, this doesn't mean withdrawal, but it also means not allowing her use her depression as a control over you. She isn't consciously doing this, so there's no need for confrontation. Just be clear about what you expect her to do for herself.
When people are depressed, their cognitive functioning falls in a heap. Even the most basic decisions and thought processes overwhelm and frighten them, eg "Do I turn left or right at this aisle?". This can be really infuriating! Just part of the depression.
I have the same ongoing problems with my mother and her depression. This is what I have found helpful. After several years we (her children) got quite tough with her. She just didn't seem to want to recover. But she is much better now. I found that simple kindnesses, like bringing her flowers or something special to eat have a big impact. You don't need to be her therapist. In fact it's better if you're not. She may not like her therapist often (too challenging), but she does need you you to be a friend, which it sounds like you are doing admirably. I was happy to hear that you hid the gear and didn't give in to her. This is exactly the tough kind of thing you need to do. Can be hard when when you see her suffering.
I'm sorry I didn't mean for this to go on and on. Please let us know how it goes.
sww
Phemomena
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SWW- to delete the first post, click edit and then up at the top there is a delete... check the box and hit the delete now button
miles - sww has some good advice
as for the gear... all i can say is that it probably hasn't helped the situation... everyone is different and some people's hormonal balance may really be put out of wack on a small bit of gear...
yup, you really need to get her to a doctor... is she taking her prescribed meds (zoloft?)... quite often people who get depressed start their meds, something happens and they stop their meds before they've had a chance to really regulate the brain chemistry.... doing so really starts a rollercoaster if you will, its often worse than not taking the meds at all... she'll probably benefit from getting on those and STAYING ON, for at least a few months...
depression is not a mental illness, its a chemical imbalance... (generally caused or aggrivated by mental distress)... good therapy to help deal with the mental distress combined with proper medication to deal with the chemical imbalance can go along way in most cases...
also, keep her away from all other drugs/alcohol for awhile... that may mean that you'll have to give that stuff up too... it aint helping the situation...
keep her active and if she's sitting at home while your at work, give her tasks to do, not just get out of bed, ask her to pick something up for you at the store... don't make her feel obligated or put too much on her, but maybe promise to make her dinner if she buys the ingredients... you have to work as a team to get through this... no one can carry the other...
miles - sww has some good advice
as for the gear... all i can say is that it probably hasn't helped the situation... everyone is different and some people's hormonal balance may really be put out of wack on a small bit of gear...
yup, you really need to get her to a doctor... is she taking her prescribed meds (zoloft?)... quite often people who get depressed start their meds, something happens and they stop their meds before they've had a chance to really regulate the brain chemistry.... doing so really starts a rollercoaster if you will, its often worse than not taking the meds at all... she'll probably benefit from getting on those and STAYING ON, for at least a few months...
depression is not a mental illness, its a chemical imbalance... (generally caused or aggrivated by mental distress)... good therapy to help deal with the mental distress combined with proper medication to deal with the chemical imbalance can go along way in most cases...
also, keep her away from all other drugs/alcohol for awhile... that may mean that you'll have to give that stuff up too... it aint helping the situation...
keep her active and if she's sitting at home while your at work, give her tasks to do, not just get out of bed, ask her to pick something up for you at the store... don't make her feel obligated or put too much on her, but maybe promise to make her dinner if she buys the ingredients... you have to work as a team to get through this... no one can carry the other...
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