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There is a chance that the test can affect BCP - a very small chance, but still a chance. I never had problems with AAS and BCP, but don't take that as 100% proof it is okay.
While a female is taking AAS she DOES NOT want to become PG. The AAS in her system can severely affect the fetus. A male taking AAS will not affect a fetus. So if there is any concern, she should use condoms while on AAS. Better safe than sorry.
While a female is taking AAS she DOES NOT want to become PG. The AAS in her system can severely affect the fetus. A male taking AAS will not affect a fetus. So if there is any concern, she should use condoms while on AAS. Better safe than sorry.
Sassy69
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Not that I've ever seen a formal study on it, but essentially you are talking about two different sources of hormones that dont' really interact. However the effects of the two are in conflict. That is why most women (e.g. competitors) will go off any hormonal B/C while cycling & in contest prep because the B/C introduces and enforces estrogen-driven fat depositing & probably a degree of water retention, etc. By removing this effect, you are removing one extra source of fat / water while trying to reach a contest or personal goal of LESS fat & water. The AAS, beign testosterone, is goign to be geared towards building muscle & reducing bodyfat. This is direct conflict w/ the goal of a B/C. So again to simplify the whole effort & get the most out of the cycle, most people remove the B/C because its results conflict w/ the goals of the AAS. Some women are able to cycle just fine while on B/C, using some very low dose estrogen/progesterone combination that works well w/ their body chemistry & doesn't introduce significant bodyfat or water retention to the equation.
That said, let's not forget that AAS will often "interrupt" a menstrual cycle, aka ammenorrhea ( geeeh...spelling..) So it may seem like your period is gone during the cycle, but you may still experience symptoms like cramping, bloating, etc. But the actual flow seems to disappear. It also occurs when bodyfat drops below around 12%, also an effect of going on a competitoin diet, training, etc. So the point here is that just because your period stopped doesn't mean that you can't get pregnant. I would even venture that just as B/C can become less effective while you are on anti-biotics, there's probably some effect w/ AAS as well. But just the loss of period can sometimes make the uninformed female cycler think that she's free & clear to not get pregnant either. WRONG. NEVER ASSUME! Just as if you are on an anti-biotic, I would definitely go to a back-up method such as a condom while you are cycling.
And to Daisy's point, while you are on AAS is the time you DON"T want to get pregnant either.
Give it at least 6 months for all the stuff to get out of her system. Its also been suggested give it that long to let your body's hormones rebalance after the cycle.
Just a quick quote from Anabolics 2000, page 13, Section on Steriod Side Defects -
Birth Defects:
Anabolic/androgenic steroids can have a very pronounced impact on the development of an unborn fetus. Adrenal Genital Syndrome in particular is a very disturbing occurrence, in which a female fetus can develop male-like reproductive organs. Women who are, or plan to become pregnant soon, should never consider the use of anabolic steroids. it would also be the best advice to stay away from these drugs completely for a number of months prior to attempting the conception of a child, so as to ensure the mother has a normal hormonal chemistry. Although anabolic/androgenic steroids can reduce sperm count and male fertility, they are not linked to birth defects when taken by someone fathering a child.
That said, let's not forget that AAS will often "interrupt" a menstrual cycle, aka ammenorrhea ( geeeh...spelling..) So it may seem like your period is gone during the cycle, but you may still experience symptoms like cramping, bloating, etc. But the actual flow seems to disappear. It also occurs when bodyfat drops below around 12%, also an effect of going on a competitoin diet, training, etc. So the point here is that just because your period stopped doesn't mean that you can't get pregnant. I would even venture that just as B/C can become less effective while you are on anti-biotics, there's probably some effect w/ AAS as well. But just the loss of period can sometimes make the uninformed female cycler think that she's free & clear to not get pregnant either. WRONG. NEVER ASSUME! Just as if you are on an anti-biotic, I would definitely go to a back-up method such as a condom while you are cycling.
And to Daisy's point, while you are on AAS is the time you DON"T want to get pregnant either.
Give it at least 6 months for all the stuff to get out of her system. Its also been suggested give it that long to let your body's hormones rebalance after the cycle.
Just a quick quote from Anabolics 2000, page 13, Section on Steriod Side Defects -
Birth Defects:
Anabolic/androgenic steroids can have a very pronounced impact on the development of an unborn fetus. Adrenal Genital Syndrome in particular is a very disturbing occurrence, in which a female fetus can develop male-like reproductive organs. Women who are, or plan to become pregnant soon, should never consider the use of anabolic steroids. it would also be the best advice to stay away from these drugs completely for a number of months prior to attempting the conception of a child, so as to ensure the mother has a normal hormonal chemistry. Although anabolic/androgenic steroids can reduce sperm count and male fertility, they are not linked to birth defects when taken by someone fathering a child.
i've been looking into the testosterone/pregnancy issue too, and there really is so little info known/published. however, i found some informative sites which i've listed below.
two of these are Female To Male transgender websites - which although not everything in it is relevant, i think it's fair to say the findings/analysis of the research can be accepted to a degree, biological females using male hormones. (FtM's tend to take less amounts every 10-12 days than a female BB but will do so for 5 years+ nonstop.)
this article states the following: (information has supposedly been taken from the doctor overseeing his transition)
"Does Testosterone administration inhibit ovulation and thus prevents pregnancy reliably?
a dosage of approximately 250 mg Testosterone (cyprionate a.g. depot-testesterone) is administered every 12-21 days. With dodecanate 4 weeks can be sufficient. For first time users the period must have been gone for at least 2 months to be safe.
A higher dosis does not prevent pregnancies better, in contrast it can lead to the conversion of testesterone (T*) into oestrogens. In this case ovulation can reoccour. Some notice spot bleeding. If you want to be secure have a test at your endo, which would be a good idea now and then anyway. Another option would trying out one of these hormone-test, pregancy prevention kits, which are sold as contraceptive guides. I don't know if T* interferes with their use, ask a endo first if that will work."
http://www.thetransitionalmale.com/testosteroneindex
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/volk/female-athletes-and-menstrual-irregularities.htm
http://www.geocities.com/fasterthanlife_2000/ftm.html
from personal experience, i do not take any form of b/c pill cos i dont want any extra estrogen in my body. however, taking T makes me hella slutty...
one question i'm firing is if women's excess T is convereted back to estrogen and hence fertile, would this be a case for anti-estrogens alongside T as a form of birth control?? it's all so complicated
two of these are Female To Male transgender websites - which although not everything in it is relevant, i think it's fair to say the findings/analysis of the research can be accepted to a degree, biological females using male hormones. (FtM's tend to take less amounts every 10-12 days than a female BB but will do so for 5 years+ nonstop.)
this article states the following: (information has supposedly been taken from the doctor overseeing his transition)
"Does Testosterone administration inhibit ovulation and thus prevents pregnancy reliably?
a dosage of approximately 250 mg Testosterone (cyprionate a.g. depot-testesterone) is administered every 12-21 days. With dodecanate 4 weeks can be sufficient. For first time users the period must have been gone for at least 2 months to be safe.
A higher dosis does not prevent pregnancies better, in contrast it can lead to the conversion of testesterone (T*) into oestrogens. In this case ovulation can reoccour. Some notice spot bleeding. If you want to be secure have a test at your endo, which would be a good idea now and then anyway. Another option would trying out one of these hormone-test, pregancy prevention kits, which are sold as contraceptive guides. I don't know if T* interferes with their use, ask a endo first if that will work."
http://www.thetransitionalmale.com/testosteroneindex
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/volk/female-athletes-and-menstrual-irregularities.htm
http://www.geocities.com/fasterthanlife_2000/ftm.html
from personal experience, i do not take any form of b/c pill cos i dont want any extra estrogen in my body. however, taking T makes me hella slutty...
one question i'm firing is if women's excess T is convereted back to estrogen and hence fertile, would this be a case for anti-estrogens alongside T as a form of birth control?? it's all so complicated
Sassy69
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The "safe" answer is
(1) Get off your B/C while cycling AAS because the effects of the two can conflict and reduce the effectiveness of the AAS cycle. And since AAS is harsh enough on a female body, you should do everything you possibly can to protect yourself, keep the impact of artificial means to a minimum and also be as clean & simple in what you are using to manipulate your body so the there is minimal interaction & you get the most out of your cycle. And while you are "off" your b/c use a back-up method of birth control.
(2) If you decide to stay on your b/c, assume that the effect of the additional male hormone can reduce the effectiveness of the b/c and use a backup method of birth control.
(1) Get off your B/C while cycling AAS because the effects of the two can conflict and reduce the effectiveness of the AAS cycle. And since AAS is harsh enough on a female body, you should do everything you possibly can to protect yourself, keep the impact of artificial means to a minimum and also be as clean & simple in what you are using to manipulate your body so the there is minimal interaction & you get the most out of your cycle. And while you are "off" your b/c use a back-up method of birth control.
(2) If you decide to stay on your b/c, assume that the effect of the additional male hormone can reduce the effectiveness of the b/c and use a backup method of birth control.
Sassy69 said:
I'll repeat this because it is the best answer given.
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