oh ya, I've read a few articles that said abs can recover within 48 hours of being worked, so that's why I assumed my timing plan would be ok. also I should mention I'm taking about 5 grams of creatine daily, and do cardio (skipping) in the mornings to help loose the fat. (I have head about tageted fat loss not possible, so really, I'm just trying to go for all over fatloss, since I think of it mostly as ineffcient body weight). and I would generally like to have strong muscles, but not so bulky that it interferes with speed or flexability since I practice kung fu and plan to enter some races in my area come september..