Purchased Clen, first time, need advice.

[lefalo]

Hi guys,

I'm new here and was wondering if anyone can help me...

I'm a 23 yo female 5"9 and 165lbs. I have lost alot of weight recenty (35lbs) through diet and exercise and I am now around 20lbs from my ideal weight. However I can't seem to shift this last bit of weight. I have been trying for weeks!!

I'm thinking of using Clen and have read alot into it (this forum has been particularly informative). I am thinking of trying a two week cycle. If my diet is clean and I continue my cardio how much weight could I potentially shift in this time? Also, other then taurine and potassium what other supplements will I need to combat the side effects? Dosage?

Also, would be great if you guys could give me some diet and excercise tips so that I can maximise my results. At the moment I do forty minutes interval training every morning and three light weight sessions a week. Diet wise a typical day consists of:

Breakfast:
Bowl of porridge
Rockmelon

Snack:
Apple and raw carrot

Lunch:
Glass of orange juice
Bowl of corn kernals
Apple

Snack:
Frozen peas (love them)
sometimes I have a few peices of organic dark chocolate (bad I know!!)

Dinner:
Bowl of soup (usually tomato or mushroom or something)

Snack:
Frozen peas nom nom lol

Given that I have a mostly vegan diet I also take a multivitamin for iron etc. should I keep taking this if I do the Clen cycle?

I understand that many are against using clen given the health risks but at this stage I am willing to do whatever it takes and your help would be much appreciated

Thanks so much for your help

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Hi guys,

I'm new here and was wondering if anyone can help me...

I'm a 23 yo female 5"9 and 165lbs. I have lost alot of weight recenty (35lbs) through diet and exercise and I am now around 20lbs from my ideal weight. However I can't seem to shift this last bit of weight. I have been trying for weeks!!

I'm thinking of using Clen and have read alot into it (this forum has been particularly informative). I am thinking of trying a two week cycle. If my diet is clean and I continue my cardio how much weight could I potentially shift in this time? Also, other then taurine and potassium what other supplements will I need to combat the side effects? Dosage?

Also, would be great if you guys could give me some diet and excercise tips so that I can maximise my results. At the moment I do forty minutes interval training every morning and three light weight sessions a week. Diet wise a typical day consists of:

Breakfast:
Bowl of porridge
Rockmelon

Snack:
Apple and raw carrot

Lunch:
Glass of orange juice
Bowl of corn kernals
Apple

Snack:
Frozen peas (love them)
sometimes I have a few peices of organic dark chocolate (bad I know!!)

Dinner:
Bowl of soup (usually tomato or mushroom or something)

Snack:
Frozen peas nom nom lol

Given that I have a mostly vegan diet I also take a multivitamin for iron etc. should I keep taking this if I do the Clen cycle?

I understand that many are against using clen given the health risks but at this stage I am willing to do whatever it takes and your help would be much appreciated

Thanks so much for your help

Welcome and congrats on what you have accomplished so far. You can easily take yourself to the next level by further cleaning up you diet. Everything I have put in red has a good amount of sugar and spikes your insulin you need more low GI choices. The soup unless made from scratch has a very high amount of sodium and is processed beyond any healthy recognition. The biggest issue with your diet is the lack of it protein. You do not have to get your protein from meat but you doo have to get it in! I would advise you do not even think about trying the clen tell you clean up your diet even more and add a significant amount of protein.

Here is a list of healthy vegan foods that do have a good amount of protein:
Soy protein powder
Soybeans
Lentils
Black beans
Kidney beans
Chickpeas
Pinto beans
Black-eyed peas
Tofu
Lima beans
Quinoa
Tofu
Peanut butter
Almonds
Soy milk
Soy yogurt
Sunflower
Cashews
Almond butter
Spinachh
Broccoli

Low GI = 55 or less
Medium GI = 56 - 69
High GI = 70 or more

Breakfast Cereal
Low GI
All-bran (UK/Aus) 30
Oat bran 50
Rolled Oats 51

Low GI Carbs

Wheat Pasta Shapes 54
Brown Rice 50
Buckwheat 51
Pearled Barley 22
Yam 35

Bread
Low GI
Ezical Bread

Legumes (Beans)
Low GI

Kidney Beans (canned) 52
Butter Beans 36
Chick Peas 42
Haricot/Navy Beans 31
Lentils, Red 21
Lentils, Green 30
Pinto Beans 45
Blackeyed Beans 50
Yellow Split Peas 32


Fruits
Low GI

Cherries 22
Plums 24
Grapefruit 25
Peaches 28
Peach, canned in natural juice 30
Apples 34
Pears 41
Dried Apricots 32
Grapes 43
Coconut 45
Coconut Milk 41
Kiwi Fruit 47
Oranges 40
Strawberries 40
Prunes 29


Dairy
Low GI

Whole milk 31
Skimmed milk 32
Chocolate milk 42
Sweetened yoghurt 33
Unweetened Yoghurt 23
Soy Milk 44



Start tracking your calories FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal it is free and a great way to keep you on the right path. I like a macro ratio of 40% protein 30% carbs 30% fat (good fats). Given your current weight a good calorie intake would be 1650-1980. Good rule of thumb is 10-12 x body weight.

Why are you only lifting light weights? Heavy lifting will increase your muscle mass which will increase the amount of calories you burn which means you can eat more and still lose weight.

 

[lefalo]

Hi,

Thanks so much for your reply!! It was extremely helpful and I have since stocked my fridge full of low GI veggies ...No more frozen peas!! haha!!

So even though I was only eating fruit/veg the amount of sugar in the peas and corn etc was spiking my insulin which means that my body wouldn't burn as much fat?? Is this how it works? Please forgive my ignorance... I've got a lot to learn!!

As for protein, I probably should have mentioned that I do munch on a protein bar most days and I love tofu (though I must admit I didn't even realise it is a good source of protein!!) But I will up my intake if that's what you advise!!

In regards to the soup, I make it from scratch but since your advice re. low GI I have read around a bit and a few articles suggested that juicing (or in my case 'souping' lol) vegetables increases the amount of sugar you are digesting as the vegetable is losing its mass and becoming more concentrated? So should I maybe avoid the soup?

I would love to do heavier weights but the only ones I have access to are my roomates (I can't afford a gym membership at the moment but I've managed ok so far without it) and they are quite light... I thought that if I did more reps it would make up for it a bit?? Again... please forgive my ignorance!!

As for the clenbuterol I will take your advice and try the low GI diet (and more protein!!) before I resort to any drugs. In any case I read that Clen only works for people with less then 15% body fat (not me) is this true?? There is so much hype and contradiction surrounding it, it's hard to tell what is real and what is not!! Would be great to hear a few peoples opinions on it... most threads that I've seen are like mine... newbies needing advice!! Lol are their any that discuss the pros and cons of it on the whole??

Thanks again for your help and time, I hope that once I learn a bit more and get where I want to be, I'll be able to return the favour and help other people out

 

[slat1]

When you have sugar in your system it keeps you from using your stored fat for energy.
I would replace the protein bars with a nice clean shake. Putting a table spoon of all natural unsalted peanut butter in it can help too.
Lastly, try making two cups of green tea a day. They will naturally increase your thyroid and they are packed with antioxidants too!

 

[lefalo]

Thanks so much for your help!!

I have taken your advice and also spent some more time researching low GI foods etc on the forum. I have cleaned up my diet and am eating meat for the first time in 6years to try and get my protein!! This week I lost 1kilo (2lbs)!!

Starting monday I am going to try a low calorie, low carb diet. My meal plan for day one looks something like this:

Breakfast:
2 boiled eggs and a small serve (100grams) of cooked (in garlic and herb) mushrooms

Morning Snack:
3 celery sticks
2tbsp ANPB

Lunch:
Can of tuna
1tbsp low fat mayonnaise

Afternoon Snack:
1/2 cup low-fat cottage cheese
3 Sakata rice crackers

Dinner
100grams chicken breast (skinless)
1 medium (150g) tomato
lettuce
spinach leaves
1tbsp low fat sour cream (greek yoghurt)

Total calories: 1,200
Fat 40% Protein 40% Carb 20%

Am I on the right track here??? Please advise!!! your help is much appreciated.

I plan to continue doing an hour cardio 6days a week and my three weight training sessions as it has worked well for me so far and fits in with my work schedual... but should I be doing my cardio in the morning before breakfast? Does it make much difference... I'm not really a morning person haha!!

Oh and thanks for the tip re. the green tea Slat1!! I now love the stuff... have read so much about its health benefits since you mentioned it!!

Thanks so much for all your help... I've learnt so much already from this forum!!

 

[superqt4u2nv]

Thanks so much for your help!!

I have taken your advice and also spent some more time researching low GI foods etc on the forum. I have cleaned up my diet and am eating meat for the first time in 6years to try and get my protein!! This week I lost 1kilo (2lbs)!!

Starting monday I am going to try a low calorie, low carb diet. My meal plan for day one looks something like this:

Breakfast:
2 boiled eggs and a small serve (100grams) of cooked (in garlic and herb) mushrooms OMEGA eggs 1, 6 egg whites

Morning Snack:
3 celery sticks
2tbsp ANPB

Lunch:
Can of tuna
1tbsp low fat mayonnaiseorganic salsa

Afternoon Snack:
1/2 cup low-fat cottage cheese
3 Sakata rice crackersezekiel bread

Dinner
100grams chicken breast (skinless)
1 medium (150g) tomato
lettuce
spinach leaves
1tbsp low fat sour cream (greek yoghurt)

Total calories: 1,200
Fat 40% Protein 40% Carb 20%

Am I on the right track here??? Please advise!!! your help is much appreciated.

I plan to continue doing an hour cardio 6days a week and my three weight training sessions as it has worked well for me so far and fits in with my work schedual... but should I be doing my cardio in the morning before breakfast? Does it make much difference... I'm not really a morning person haha!!

Oh and thanks for the tip re. the green tea Slat1!! I now love the stuff... have read so much about its health benefits since you mentioned it!!

Thanks so much for all your help... I've learnt so much already from this forum!!

I made some minor corrections you are on the right track for sure but I would bring down your fat a bit increase the carbs a little just make sure you cut off carbs at 6 p.m. Calories need to be higher 1650 is ideal.

 

[slat1]

I love seeing meal plans come together. I know first hand how it helps the body change. I went through it. LOL at me. I'm all excited for you!

 

[Tami Bellon]

As far as your cardio goes.....what kind of cardio are you doing and how long have you been doing an hour 6 days a week? It sounds like you may get burned out doing it so often.

Morning on an empty stomach is usually more effective.

-HOWEVER-

If you cannot do that, later in the day is fine - make sure you haven't eaten for at least 2 hours before doing cardio.