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RegretfulOne

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I feel the need to share my feelings with you in the hope that it will cause you to stop and think before acting and potentially putting your wife, girlfriend, or friend in my shoes……

Short background:
I spent most of my life very overweight. After my husband stared using AAS and got awesome results, it was logical that they it might help me. So, in an attempt to help me feel better about myself, my husband gave me some of his AAS.

Long story short, I have permanent side effects that will be with me FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE. Every time I open my mouth I will be REMINDED of my mistakes. My voice has been permanently altered – not only is my voice low, but sometimes when I talk parts of words don’t come out, sometimes when I laugh nothing comes out.

Worst of all my voice is very “gravely” – which bothers me the most. It effects my job because presentations and training classes are a big part of what I do. I am extremely self-conscious.

I have hair on my face that grows very quickly. I won’t stand close to people while speaking to them, and sometimes I keep my head down. I spend on average an hour a day removing hair from my face.

My clit is permanently enlarged and often my pants/panties rub it and it’s painful. I am self-conscious during sex.

I am a recreational lifter, I will never compete much less make BB a career.

I ask that before you give a girlfriend/wife/friend AAS you make her research it, make sure she is FULLY AWARE of the potential side effects and let HER make her own decision.

The margin of error is very small for women. Please be careful.

Thanks.
 
Wow that sucks. Maybe some people will learn something from this, resarch what u put in your body, never use someone elses word as the truth. This post sounds very familiar, actually it sounds exactly like a woman that posted on this board under another name.

EAST_COAST_BODYBUILDER
 
That's really too bad, and unfortunetely this happens a lot. A good friend of mine told me that she wanted to use steroids and her boyfriend was going to put her on some Bootleg Anavar stacked with Deca. Good thing she listened to me. She's using about 7.5mg of Anavar right now, and she loves it with very little side effects if any.
 
Instead of just warning that steroids are bad for women (no shit :rolleyes: ) why don't you explain to everyone the types of gear along with dosages that you took.
 
PopiChulo said:
What type of steroids did you take??? If you dont mind me asking
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I think that she took d-bol... That is why she attached the thread about d-bol from women's board... Would I ever give any of AS to my wife? hell, no... she doesn't even know I'm taking (injecting) it... That dude was so WRONG giving it to her without any research...
She probably took not less than 20-25 mgs a day... It bloated her (she mentions that she was overweight), give her mustache, voice is fucked up...
It's just too bad... sad...
 
RussianBro said:


I think that she took d-bol... That is why she attached the thread about d-bol from women's board... Would I ever give any of AS to my wife? hell, no... she doesn't even know I'm taking (injecting) it... That dude was so WRONG giving it to her without any research...
She probably took not less than 20-25 mgs a day... It bloated her (she mentions that she was overweight), give her mustache, voice is fucked up...
It's just too bad... sad...
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Bro, what are you talking; about 20-25mg a day of dbol!?!

Winny causes the side effects she is talking about in a lot of women even at low doses(10-20mg a day). You just never know with winny.

THE ONLY DRUGS TO EVER CONSIDER FOR A WOMEN ARE: BTG OXANDRIN, SPA OX(PROVIDED IT'S REAL), PRIMO TABS, CLEN, T3 IN LOW DOSES, PRIMO DEPOT PROVIDED YOU HAVE IT TESTED.

You are talking about 25mg of dbol but 5mg would wreck havoc on any woman.
 
BigAndy69 said:

winny causes the side effects she is talking about in a lot of women even at low doses(10-20mg a day). You just never know with winny.
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Bingo. We aren't talking crazy doses either.

But EVERY women reacts DIFFERENTLY to EVERY DRUG.

My winny could be someone else's Primo....YOU JUST NEVER KNOW.

I'm not looking for sympathy here, my thought is that if someone had written a similar thread on the board my husband used to frequent, he might have thought twice about giving me what he did.

So, please spread the word and help me spare more women my pain :(

Thanks.
 
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BigAndy69 said:


Bro, what are you talking; about 20-25mg a day of dbol!?!

Winny causes the side effects she is talking about in a lot of women even at low doses(10-20mg a day). You just never know with winny.

THE ONLY DRUGS TO EVER CONSIDER FOR A WOMEN ARE: BTG OXANDRIN, SPA OX(PROVIDED IT'S REAL), PRIMO TABS, CLEN, T3 IN LOW DOSES, PRIMO DEPOT PROVIDED YOU HAVE IT TESTED.

You are talking about 25mg of dbol but 5mg would wreck havoc on any woman.
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Bro, you don't have to flame me... I don't think there is any reason for that... I suggested what she took based on her discription. There was no indication on what her husband gave her... BUT he gave her something he was taking - "So, in an attempt to help me feel better about myself, my husband gave me some of his AAS."
.. D-bol does great for men and, yes, does jokes on women...
So, go flame someone else... I can't believe that...
 
RussianBro said:


Bro, you don't have to flame me... I don't think there is any reason for that... I suggested what she took based on her discription. There was no indication on what her husband gave her... BUT he gave her something he was taking - "So, in an attempt to help me feel better about myself, my husband gave me some of his AAS."
.. D-bol does great for men and, yes, does jokes on women...
So, go flame someone else... I can't believe that...
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I was a little out of line..I didn't mean to offend you but nothing pisses me off more than people who don't know shit about gear and think they are gurus so they start giving there girls gear.

I lashed out on you and I apologize.

What bothered me was your statement that dbol caused these side effects in women when Winny, a drug considered mild that many men give there women, causes the side effects she's describing.
 
im very sorry to hear that and I feel for you but crimsonking is right he should have gave you some other "safe" gear instead
like Clen and ECA that would have gave you good results and almost no side effects...

take care and stay safe :)

-Max

CrimsonKing said:
Dam.. Sorry to hear that.. Why did you do steriods instead of T3, Clen, or DNP if you were trying to lose weight?
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RegretfulOne said:


Bingo. We aren't talking crazy doses either.

But EVERY women reacts DIFFERENTLY to EVERY DRUG.

My winny could be someone else's Primo....YOU JUST NEVER KNOW.

So, please spread the word and help me spare more women my pain :(

Thanks.
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You get no sympathy from me until you answer the damn question. You post that you took "steroids" and only "reference" a thread so that others start "assuming" that you used dbol.

But now you make a reference to Winny. :rolleyes:

3-4 people have already asked, WHAT DID YOU TAKE AND AT WHAT DOSAGES??
 
mvmaxx said:


You get no sympathy from me until you answer the damn question. You post that you took "steroids" and only "reference" a thread so that others start "assuming" that you used dbol.

But now you make a reference to Winny. :rolleyes:

3-4 people have already asked, WHAT DID YOU TAKE AND AT WHAT DOSAGES??
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Wow, why so angry? :)

Please know that I am not seeking sympathy here....I would have posted under my "real" screen name if that were the case. I'm an adult and no one held a gun to my head, but I was NOT educated on the potential sides, let alone the warning signs of bad sides coming on....

I never mentioned D-Bol. I was simply referencing a thread that perfectly illustrated my concern.

It was winny. 50mg weekly. Like I said, it was WELL within "acceptable" dosing for a woman. But there are women out there with similar stories about primo, etc, etc, etc....

I just want to make sure that guys are cognizant of the SMALL MARGIN OF ERROR that exists for women.
 
RegretfulOne said:


Wow, why so angry? :)

Please know that I am not seeking sympathy here....I would have posted under my "real" screen name if that were the case. I'm an adult and no one held a gun to my head, but I was NOT educated on the potential sides, let alone the warning signs of bad sides coming on....

I never mentioned D-Bol. I was simply referencing a thread that perfectly illustrated my concern.

It was winny. 50mg weekly. Like I said, it was WELL within "acceptable" dosing for a woman. But there are women out there with similar stories about primo, etc, etc, etc....

I just want to make sure that guys are cognizant of the SMALL MARGIN OF ERROR that exists for women.
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50 MGs!!! for F..k sakes!!! The thread did perfectly illustrate the concern. You never mentioned dbol, but you never mentioned winny as well...
50 MGs!!! Holy shit!!! Its not a small margin...

Are you planning on any kind of therapy? Seeing a doc?
 
RussianBro said:


50 MGs!!! for F..k sakes!!! The thread did perfectly illustrate the concern. You never mentioned dbol, but you never mentioned winny as well...
50 MGs!!! Holy shit!!! Its not a small margin...

Are you planning on any kind of therapy? Seeing a doc?
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I think 50mg WEEKLY not daily is an acceptable dose for most females. It's like 7mg a day.

Some women get good results on 2-4mg Daily.
 
BigAndy69 said:


I think 50mg WEEKLY not daily is an acceptable dose for most females. It's like 7mg a day.

Some women get good results on 2-4mg Daily.
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then it make sence... so, they would just be splitting tabs in half...
Ok, but i really want to hear what she is going to do about it...

p.s. andy, karma to you, bro... you are cool, sometimes hard headed, but cool :p

I have a question to you, check your pm...
 
RussianBro said:


then it make sence... so, they would just be splitting tabs in half...
Ok, but i really want to hear what she is going to do about it...

p.s. andy, karma to you, bro... you are cool, sometimes hard headed, but cool :p

I have a question to you, check your pm...
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If she injected it, then it may have been test suspension...winny is couterfeited often.

Zambon amps(or any amp) can be drained of its substance and replaced with something else with no marks.

Btw, never got your PM, you can also email me [email protected]
 
RegretfulOne said:
I spent most of my life very overweight. After my husband stared using AAS and got awesome results, it was logical that they it might help me. So, in an attempt to help me feel better about myself, my husband gave me some of his AAS.

Long story short, I have permanent side effects that will be with me FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE
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I'm very sorry for you. I wish you the best and pray that with time you will regain comfort and peace in your life.

That being said, your actions, and the actions of your husband were very, very foolish.

It is admirable that you are investing time and effort with this warning.
 
BigAndy69 said:


If she injected it, then it may have been test suspension...winny is couterfeited often.
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Again, you are speculating, just as others did about the dbol.

Was it injects? tabs? Was it taken all at once? Was it split throughout the week? "Details" here could really help clear things up.

If she would just answer my original question with as much effort as she puts forth "warning people" then we may actually get to the bottom of this someday. <sigh> :rolleyes:
 
RegretfulOne, I am not "mad" I am "frustrated". It would really help us all if you'd give us the details of your experience.

-What brand of gear did you use? (example - if you shot IP Winny you weren't shooting Winny)
-Was it injects or tabs?
-Was it taken all at once or daily?
-If daily, what amounts daily?
-At what point did you realize the negative effects? At the end of the week or during?

If we can get some clear answers we may be able to identify what went wrong and we can give better advice in the future because of it.

As others have asked, are you going to the Dr? Are you receiving any type of therapy to correct the problem? Did you shoot your husband? ;)
 
It was several years ago so I wouldn't be able to tell you what type it was....therapy and repression have blocked some of the details from my memory :rolleyes: :(

It WAS winny...it WAS injected....it WAS 50mg a week....

My husband isn't to blame...he researched as much as he could....we didn't know anything about Elite back then......obviously can't check out a book at the library......

I just know I see TONS of women on the womens forum whose boyfriends/husbands have given them horrible, and dangerous, advice......

I feel obligated at this point to spread the word....I think it will help my healing..

As others have asked, are you going to the Dr? Are you receiving any type of therapy to correct the problem?
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:confused: I was under the impression that there was NOTHING that could be done medically to reverse the side effects...maybe I'll make an appointment with a sports med doc....thanks :)

Been thinking about maybe getting a voice coach...I'm NOT a singer, never have been but I have wondered if that might make a difference....
 
I'm starting to get the impression this is a joke...

RegretfulOne said:
My husband isn't to blame...he researched as much as he could....we didn't know anything about Elite back then......obviously can't check out a book at the library.....
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What the hell do you mean "obviously can't check out a book at the library?" You guys can't read, or you guys don't have a library card?? Boy, someone should really get around to writing some books about medicine, drugs, hormones, etc. Did you think the word or concept, or observed and documented cases of VIRILIZATION due to steroid use in women didn't exist before this bulletin board came into existence?

RegretfulOne said:
:confused: I was under the impression that there was NOTHING that could be done medically to reverse the side effects...maybe I'll make an appointment with a sports med doc....thanks :)
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This has got to be a joke. Probably not much you can do, but have you seen any doctor? A sports med doc? Why? WTF.
 
eek. I assure you it's not a joke. My pain is not a joke to me, anyway.

You can attack me (for what reason, I'm not sure) but my purpose here was to try to help, that's all.

I have been too embarassed to go to a doctor to discuss my problems...and from my EXTENSIVE research on the Internet, the sides are NOT reverseable.

I ASSUMED a sports med doctor would be a good place to start because they would be more likely to have knowledge of recreational steroid use.. :confused: bad assumption, I presume?

Yes, we can read, yes we actually DO have library cards, my point was basically that there weren't, and still aren't to a wide extent, ADEQUATE RESOURCES available regarding women and recreational AAS use.

Again, I'm not quite sure how this turned into an argument.....I've been thinking about doing this for a while now, and I was motivated by that "women and d-bol" thread to go ahead and do it....... :confused:
 
I assure you, I'm not trying to insult you nor am I trying to argue.

It upsets me when people get hurt needlessly. As far as a doctor goes, do you have a normal doctor and if so, do you feel he/she is a good doctor? If so, I suggest you ask him/her to refer you to a specialist that can help. This may lead to some moron who knows nothing, or it may lead to just the right doc. Either way you should do some research and find a good doc. I'd be thinking of seeing an endocrinologist if I were you.

No, virilization symptoms are not 100% reversable. However, I would wager that there is a good deal you can do to improve upon your current quality of living.
 
RegretfulOne said:
my point was basically that there weren't, and still aren't to a wide extent, ADEQUATE RESOURCES available regarding women and recreational AAS use.
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Maybe there are not wide spread "dangers of steroids for women" billboards, flyers, after-school-specials, or TV campaigns, but the fact that exogenous androgens cause maculizing symptoms in women has been known scince the dawn of steroid use. Hell, I can remember a teacher in grade school who we used to joke "was on roids" because she was about 6 foot 6 and was twice as big as the gym teacher.

Again, I'm not trying to put you down. Let the word be known I guess... Steroids are not chils play. The are powerful and potentially dangerous drugs.
 
50mg a day for a woman is helluvafuckinlot of winny!!!...for a woman. Yikes. Women....be careful. Men.....keep your women safe. They trust that you have their best interests at heart. Don't be a goon and apply your cycle knowledge to a womans body. It just doesn't work out that way.
 
BTW - The only question I have is, winny's clearance time is quite fast yes? So how why did you continue using it to the point where your voice deepened and facial hair grew? Logically you'd stop immediately at any miniscule sign of a problem.
 
Regretfulone thankis for the story and I hope this helps many women out there.

Hormones are no joke to play with, give a man some test he's okay, give a girl some estrogen she's okay. Switch the tweo type and they are both fucked. It takes very little of the opposite sex type hormone to have drastic effects....
 
argent said:
Women....be careful. Men.....keep your women safe. They trust that you have their best interests at heart. Don't be a goon and apply your cycle knowledge to a womans body. It just doesn't work out that way.
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That's EXCATLY what I am trying to say...exactly..thanks.

P.S. it was 50 a WEEK.

P.P.S. the sides it me hard and fast and I wasn't aware of the warning signs so I was knee deep in it before I knew what hit me. I didn't know about the voice thing, :rolleyes: yeah flame me all you want, but I'm being HONEST, so I thought it was just a cold...
 
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Frackal said:
Why the fuck are you guys flaming this woman???????
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Just wanted to say that I don't think I was flaming her. It's really a sad situation and I feel very sorry for her.

However, like I said, it upsets, no, it infuriates me when people get hurt needlessly.
 
mvmaxx said:


Again, you are speculating, just as others did about the dbol.

Was it injects? tabs? Was it taken all at once? Was it split throughout the week? "Details" here could really help clear things up.

If she would just answer my original question with as much effort as she puts forth "warning people" then we may actually get to the bottom of this someday. <sigh> :rolleyes:
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Bro don't you think it's funny that my speculations turned out to be correct every time?

These are educated guesses. I know what I'm talking about when it comes to this subject.
 
I think I know what she did. Correct me if I'm wrong, but were you taking one 50 mg dose a week? That is, did you take the whole 50 mg dose in one shot once a week? If so, you were really spiking those androgen levels and that's what caused your problems.
 
BigAndy69 said:


Bro don't you think it's funny that my speculations turned out to be correct every time?

These are educated guesses. I know what I'm talking about when it comes to this subject.
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bro, I was in no way trying to discredit you but rather trying to get some straight answers from her. You still guessed that she did the injects until she confirmed it. And your answer is probably the most likely one; a winny amp with some sort of test in it. Also, if she injected that single amount all at once as bigkraut said, then that could have been all that was needed for the negative effect to occur.
 
RegretfulOne said:


That's EXCATLY what I am trying to say...exactly..thanks.

P.S. it was 50 a WEEK.

P.P.S. the sides it me hard and fast and I wasn't aware of the warning signs so I was knee deep in it before I knew what hit me. I didn't know about the voice thing, :rolleyes: yeah flame me all you want, but I'm being HONEST, so I thought it was just a cold...
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That's terrible sweetie...but don't lose hope...Nicole *something* the former Ms. Olympia, went from androgen beast to a basically normal looking female....good luck to you and thanks for sharing, please would a mod move this to the women's board.
 
As a female from the "women's board" I really don't think this thread belongs there. What happened to this woman was because a well meaning man applied what worked for HIS body to hers. Men need to be made aware that they can do serious damage to someone they love by giving AAS to a woman unless they know exactly how to do it and this is the place that men will mostly likely read this. Once a man or woman makes it to the Women's Board we can give them proper information so this post is really not needed on that board.
 
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