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primo or anavar

supermom

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Hi!
I'm new here and have really learned alot...you guys are great! I do have a question...which is better for a woman trying to "cut"...primobolan depot (50mg) or Anavar...which gives you the results that will last?
 
First of all, both of those drugs are highly faked, so be sure to know your source and it is recommended that you have the drug tested to make sure it contains what it says it does. Primo is more likely than not to be fake, anavar is more likely to be real, but no necessarily.

Okay. That said, cutting fat will be done by diet. AAS will help you maintain your muscle while on a low calorie or restrictive cutting diet. The muscle will help keep your metabolism going. Typically, when cutting, you will lose muscle because of the calorie deficit and/or intense workouts. Muscle helps keep your metabolism humming along which is highly desireable!

Make sure your diet is in check. A first step might be to post up what you generally eat on a daily basis, your workouts, all your stats, and finally, your specific goals.

Also, how long have you been training and eating good?
 
Phemomena said:
cutting is diet, not drugs...

what are your stats, routine, goals ect?

well put...

also, have you ever done any aas or as before? if so, what did you do and how many times? how long have you been training? i hope you understand that we ask these questions to better help you :)
 
Well, in all steroids scare the bejesus outta me! My husband is doing a cycle now with d-bol and primo and is doing very well. I was just curious as to what primo or anavar would do to a woman. I've been working out for about 6 years...just to maintain. I'm 5'4 36 years old and weigh 124 but have this level of body fat (I'm at about 24%) that just won't let go. I've focused more on my diet..I've been doing Atkins for about a month and have already lost about 4 inches and 6 lbs...not too bad considering I have such a sluggish metabolism. My workouts aren't anything to brag about and I know that...I do workout 5 days a week for about 45 minutes a day. Alternate between Tae Bo, Pilates, Step Aerobics, and mild weight training. I know that I've got to lose the fat before the muscle definition will show...but I need some advice. How much aerobics should I be doing, how much weight training, etc? I'm also wanting to know what a "cutting" diet consists of and what are some good fat burning OTC drugs I can try? Ephedra gives me the shakes too bad...does Chromium help? Thanks
 
looks to me like you really dont NEED AAS, you NEED to incorporate more strength training if you want to lose more bodyfat.
"mild" weight lifting is probably not helping you lose that extra fat you speak of.
ditch the idea of AAS until you modify your training.
 
Thanks Smurfy....got any good pointers? I'm a weight lifting dummy...not sure where to start...I'm actually joining a gym and possibly getting a personal trainer...just want a jump start. I'm blessed that I have naturally muscular legs but my arms are horrible! I'd really like that "cut" look...I think that's so beautiful on a woman....Any advice would be appreciated
 
Hi Supermom!

First, thanks so much for coming on here & asking the important questions! It's particularly confusing to women when they see their men taking or shooting some drug & getting amazing results. The first secret is that they can handle the testosterone. Women have the estrogen factor & just throwing in a little extra test doesn't fix the problem. Women are *supposed* to have that extra bit of body fat (for child bearing, etc.). So keeping that in mind, steroids are NOT a "fat loss product" to be used by women. At the end of the day, diet is what will allow you to manipulate the composition of your body. Even when it comes to taking steroids, there is no "cutting" or "bulking" drug. You can take any steroid and get either cut or bulked based on how you eat (with lesser impact due to your training/cardio regimen).

So, in order to "get that cut look", focus on your diet first because that is ultimately the place where it will make the difference. Throwing in other chemicals just add layers of often unnecessary complication that you really need to understand in order to get the results you are expecting.

To start, I would direct you to Spatts' sticky at the top of this board "Helpful Links". Check out the first two links under "Training". If you are new to dieting, you might take a look at the "Body for Life" book by Bill Phillips. There is a little too much focus on buying his products to do the diet /training program, but actually you don't really need that stuff. The point is to educate yourself about how to modify your diet to meet the goals you have in mind. Atkins diet will give you some results, but as you've probably noticed, the carb cutting can be painful because carbs are your brain's source of energy. Ultimately I think that Atkins will also limit your energy when it comes to training. Both diet & training will provide results based on consistency & intensity. It is not necessary to go "hardcore" on either of them.
 
Thanks Sassy! I actually haven't had a hard time depleting carbs...I'm a pretty "hyper" person naturally and have mellowed a little but not too much...he he he. So, is the Atkins diet enough to help with the cutting? My carb intake is about 35-40 grams a day...that seems to keep me in ketosis. I'm just kind of at a plateu as far as the body fat goes. I've read some stuff on HIIT...can you elaborate just a bit? Is 12 minutes a day really enough of a workout? How often should I be lifting weights? I really appreciate all the advice...
 
There are different schools of thought on Atkins, Keto diets, etc. For me personally, I find it hard to go thru a typical day eating extremely low carbs. I also train 6 days / week - I feel like shit & get headaches if my carbs are too low for extended periods of time. Even for a keto diet you get to do a carb up / refeed to support a heavier lifting / training schedule.

To your question of " is 12 min a day really enough" - depends on what you are doing and what your goals are. Because I "like" being in the gym, my workouts will be longer. I can't do anything worthwhile in 12 minutes. If you are talking just cardio, a nice HIIT schedule is a couple of 20 min sessions / week - for ex, hi intensity for 1 min, low for 2 min, repeat for 20 min. This sort of cardio is outlined in the Body for Life book if you are looking for more infrmation. Same with weights - I like training 6 days/ week. I generally split my body parts into muscle groups, 1-2/day, some days w/ cardio, some only cardio. I just switched up my schedule to train w/ some guys who follow Westside Power lifting (see Spatts' "Helpful Links" sticky & the training board for more on this.)

There are many different ways you can go about training & dieting. The primary questions are what are your goals & how will the schedule fit into your lifestyle? If you can't / dnt' want to train 6 days/week, then dont' choose a routine that requires it. If you are just getting started w/ lifting, start w/ a basic schedule of probably 3-4 days of lifting. Cardio - you can do HIIT a couple times/ week, and do a couple sessions of longer cardio on your "recovery" days. It all depends on what will fit your schedule - if it doesn't fit your schedule, you won't do it.

You could follow the same lifting schedule as your husband, just adjust the weights to what you can comfortably lift (while still challenging yourself). Throw in 3-4 days of cardio. Stick to Atkins if you want. It depends on if you have enough energy to train in a worthwhile manner. Or throw in a carb up every 4 days or so. Primarily, just eat clean and enough. Keep the processed foods to a minimum. Get good quality fats (e.g. flax seed oil) in your diet. Get enough sleep.

Again, for an overall introduction to diet , training, cardio, I recommend taking a look at the Body for Life book.
 
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