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palehorse51 said:I was trying to, she has been reading over my shoulder here and adding her comments.... she is athletic, lean, body fat 10% 115 pounds. she makes good gains quickly.but she wants to put on some serious muscle and get strong. but not anything near female bodybuilding standards. she respects their dedication but still wants femininity. i honestly knew the var was the best option. and told her so. the primo arrived and honestly she got impatient and started the primo yesterday. which ,really primo is a great supplement for women ,when done in low doses. its just like anything, dont abuse or overdo. its not like overnight i will wake up to a werewolf. then sure enough the var came through, so luckily we have a choice. so i wanted to get as many more opinions as i could on this and i have.
10% is low. I'm assuming her abs are showing and she has very little fat on her chest, right?
If she wants to add muscle - like Sass said - she's going to have to eat a surplus of calories. Do you know what her calorie maintenance level is?
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palehorse51
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10% is low for a woman especially. happily for me she has a nice perky set of boobs, but no fat on stomach, little on but and back of upper thighs. she knows she needs to eat more. doesnt like to eat in the morning. ive been getting her to have a good protien shake in the morning, she likes it w soy milk and fozen berries. needs to eat more meals, period. i honestly think the supplements will help her appetite. she cme back from c section, gave us a beutiful baby boy 1 year ago. i am shocked at how fast her ass fat and fluid went away. and stomach got flat fast! her arms and delts show nice definition. she is tiny and wants more muscle and strength than what trining natty has given her.
Sassy69
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... lol actually here's a good example of when the details of diet & training are important. Her diet won't support good natural muscle growth..... That's how you get this feelign of 'natty isn't enough'.... Regardless of what she likes or doesnt like to eat, if you are seriouse enough to inject or inject exogenous male hormones, why aren't you serious to EAT like you want to get the same results....
Sorry to sound like a rant - but if your diet & training don't already support your goals, the supps are not going to get the best results for you.
If you want to cycle like you mean it, then eat like you mean it and get the results you want for the stress you are going to put your body thru. Further the stress of introducing stuff like steroids into your system will produce all sorts of waste & by products (for ex - when you start detoxing off primo and some of the heavier compounds your body will start to give off a wonder ammonia smell -- this is just your body working the shit out of its system - but a complete and solid diet will also go a long way towards helping support keeping all the daily functions of your body operating efficiently. Short-sheeting yourself calorie & nutrient-wise will basically result in catabolism and less than efficient daily functions.
Sorry to sound like a rant - but if your diet & training don't already support your goals, the supps are not going to get the best results for you.
If you want to cycle like you mean it, then eat like you mean it and get the results you want for the stress you are going to put your body thru. Further the stress of introducing stuff like steroids into your system will produce all sorts of waste & by products (for ex - when you start detoxing off primo and some of the heavier compounds your body will start to give off a wonder ammonia smell -- this is just your body working the shit out of its system - but a complete and solid diet will also go a long way towards helping support keeping all the daily functions of your body operating efficiently. Short-sheeting yourself calorie & nutrient-wise will basically result in catabolism and less than efficient daily functions.
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palehorse51
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"Both Primo and Var carry the same side risks as EVERY OTHER AAS" ???? looks like you havent done your research. By this logic giving her sustenon 250 would be the same as giving her primo or var? please take your attempted flaming somewhere else and let someone WITH EXPERIENCE answer our questions.Daisy_Girl said:
#1 thing get primo tested before you ever inject her with it is fauxed often and normally with test.
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The Shadow
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I was hoping Qt would be all over this thread.
imo - var is a better choice hands down and in any situation
imo - var is a better choice hands down and in any situation
I hate primo LOLThe Shadow said:
25mg a week and I got sides off it but to be honest the more I have talked about the sides with others the more it sounds like it might have been a faux and actually been test. Anyway IMO primo is a poor choice for a first cycle var is more then enough you would be shocked to see how much the average female can grow off 5-10mg of var a day. I have stated this many times but any injectable with a long half like such as primo is a big gamble if you get sides you have to ride them out and hope they don't get worse.
My question to you is your wife ready to see her hair fall out? I she ready to see a possilbe change in voice? Is she ready to have acne? I she ready for possilbe clit enlargment? All these are possible with the cycle she is on.
Oh one more thing... she may say yeah she is ready for sides she can handle it tell it happens then she is like wtf? I was like yeah I am cool I know the sides I had takin var before I tried primo and never had a problem I just thought it would be the same. It was not 4 weeks in my hair was falling out big time at 8 weeks I dropped it cause I could not handle the hair falling out. You know what happend then? My voice started to crack? WTF trust me that shit is more scarey then I can ever say. It took a full year for my hair to come back to its regular thickness I am very lucky I have thick hair to begin with. My voice luckly came back as well after approx 2 months but it was horse and cracky for a while and it could have easily stayed like that.
superqt4u2nv said:
oi. I shedded hair like a dog and my throat got so sore I was popping HALLS all day. I did get a bloody nose the second week - out of nowhere. I was driving my son to school and started bleeding all over the damn place. It only happened to me once, but it was messy. I know a few other girls who had the smae problem.
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