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I guess like anyone, I want to be lean and muscular.
27 Female
5'3"
147lbs
40% BF
I am 3 weeks into my workout cycle. I am doing 80mg of Clen (2 weeks on 2 weeks off) and an ECA stack. My dieting is much better than it was 3 weeks ago but could ALWAYS be better. I don't think I even get 2000 calories a day.
Losing the weight is not an issue for me. I can get down low when I work hard at it, but once I get the low body fat, I am looking for something to help me add a bit more muscle. This fat loss is not going to happen overnight. I am asking this question as research to what I want to do when I get the body fat low.
I am AFRAID of needles so I am looking for a mild AS that will give me the desired result.......just some mild muscle mass.
27 Female
5'3"
147lbs
40% BF
I am 3 weeks into my workout cycle. I am doing 80mg of Clen (2 weeks on 2 weeks off) and an ECA stack. My dieting is much better than it was 3 weeks ago but could ALWAYS be better. I don't think I even get 2000 calories a day.
Losing the weight is not an issue for me. I can get down low when I work hard at it, but once I get the low body fat, I am looking for something to help me add a bit more muscle. This fat loss is not going to happen overnight. I am asking this question as research to what I want to do when I get the body fat low.
I am AFRAID of needles so I am looking for a mild AS that will give me the desired result.......just some mild muscle mass.
You are too far out to be using clen. Clen is used for the last 'leg' of a fat loss programme, as is Primo.I wouldn't dream of using clen until I was down to about 15% bf. At the moment you are best staying natural. The more muscle and fat gains/loss you can make being natural the better for your health and effectiveness of the drugs when you eventually start to lose them. At the moment for you the sides and health risks are not worth the effects you will get.
Please stick to getting your diet and exercise regime right and you will get to 15% in good time before you start to venture into supplements such as clen or Primo.
Trust me your results will be much increased if you do.
Please stick to getting your diet and exercise regime right and you will get to 15% in good time before you start to venture into supplements such as clen or Primo.
Trust me your results will be much increased if you do.
Meaning, I have gotten down to 19% bf and I have looked lean and fit, but I want that "fitness" look where I can look in the mirror and actually SEE some definition. I know if I get leaner (15%bf) the muscle definition will come in clearer, but I want to build on just the natural muscle.
19% would be a good starting point for the primo, with clen coming in later say at 15% if you wanted to go lower.
You can get to 19% naturally quite easily whilst putting on muscle and making strength gains just by eating right, lifting heavy and using a little cardio.
Until then there is no need for the drugs. Save them 'til later.
You can get to 19% naturally quite easily whilst putting on muscle and making strength gains just by eating right, lifting heavy and using a little cardio.
Until then there is no need for the drugs. Save them 'til later.
Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm concerned. In a previous post on this thread, you list your current stats as:
27 Female
5'3"
147lbs
40% BF
Then in your profile your stats are 135lbs 24.5% bf. (I guess that's from Aug 02 when you registered.) Were these bodyfat measurements all done by the same method? If so, it shows a substantial loss of muscle from your August numbers up to now. Are these numbers correct? If so that means in August you had 102 lbs lean mass, but in Jan 03, you have only 89 pounds lean mass.
If you want to see definition, there HAS to be underlying muscle. If there's no muscle, even with low bodyfat, there's nothing to "cut" to.
27 Female
5'3"
147lbs
40% BF
Then in your profile your stats are 135lbs 24.5% bf. (I guess that's from Aug 02 when you registered.) Were these bodyfat measurements all done by the same method? If so, it shows a substantial loss of muscle from your August numbers up to now. Are these numbers correct? If so that means in August you had 102 lbs lean mass, but in Jan 03, you have only 89 pounds lean mass.
If you want to see definition, there HAS to be underlying muscle. If there's no muscle, even with low bodyfat, there's nothing to "cut" to.
Hey in August life was kinder. 
Being laid off and studying for hours for my computer certifications was a recipe for disaster. So here I am trying to get to at least august and then to when I was my BEST.
Of course I am waiting until I am at my prime before getting any help. At my best I was 119lbs at 19%bf. So once I get to that starting point, I am researching what can help me get to that next level. Right now I am just lifting weights and cardio.......and yes you all are right, I HAVE to get my eating up to par to make the change that much more quickly.
I appreciate everyone's help and advice. I just want to get back into shape....you want to hear something horrible, I can't fit into ANY of my clothes anymore!!!! So unless I buy a whole new wardrobe, I got to get my butt in gear. I like this board to motivate me and to plan for the future.
Being laid off and studying for hours for my computer certifications was a recipe for disaster. So here I am trying to get to at least august and then to when I was my BEST.
Of course I am waiting until I am at my prime before getting any help. At my best I was 119lbs at 19%bf. So once I get to that starting point, I am researching what can help me get to that next level. Right now I am just lifting weights and cardio.......and yes you all are right, I HAVE to get my eating up to par to make the change that much more quickly.
I appreciate everyone's help and advice. I just want to get back into shape....you want to hear something horrible, I can't fit into ANY of my clothes anymore!!!! So unless I buy a whole new wardrobe, I got to get my butt in gear. I like this board to motivate me and to plan for the future.
Ok, but now you've got to be kind to yourself. Rather than focusing on losing fat or getting back to where you were, focus on making yourself fitter and stronger.
Your body will be much more receptive to messages about making it stronger than about losing weight. Our bodies do not like to lose weight, and we've got millions of years of evolution fighting against us. Everytime we lose weight too quickly, our bodies pay us back with the rebound effect. (I should know, I gained 50 pounds in a matter of months after one diet, and it wasn't like I was eating a lot.)
Mentally, it's a more positive goal thinking of yourself as an "athlete" versus a "dieter". That's what my quote "Stronger Faster Better" is all about - I think it when I train and when I eat. It works for me. I never feel deprived, because to train hard, I have to eat well, and the harder I can train, the easier the muscle gain and fat loss. This board keeps me motivated too!
Your body will be much more receptive to messages about making it stronger than about losing weight. Our bodies do not like to lose weight, and we've got millions of years of evolution fighting against us. Everytime we lose weight too quickly, our bodies pay us back with the rebound effect. (I should know, I gained 50 pounds in a matter of months after one diet, and it wasn't like I was eating a lot.)
Mentally, it's a more positive goal thinking of yourself as an "athlete" versus a "dieter". That's what my quote "Stronger Faster Better" is all about - I think it when I train and when I eat. It works for me. I never feel deprived, because to train hard, I have to eat well, and the harder I can train, the easier the muscle gain and fat loss. This board keeps me motivated too!
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