Pre contest cycle, first time bbr

[Chereveur]

Hi all,

I am new to this site but I've read your info for quiet a while.
I'd like to know your view point on this competition cycle. My big question is whether it is good, effective or unnecessary to use both primo and winstrol together...this is my first competition and third cycle since last year August.

Also, I dont want to use dianabol too many weeks, as I have gained weight lately and the focus now is the mirror, transforming and becoming shape plus reduce from 14% bf to 6 or 8%. The alternate weeks in tren is my invention with the idea of resting as I feel is strong product on me.

the post cycle is novaldex and prov in between weeks 5 and 8 and then 15th. and HCG in week 6, 7, 8 and then 15 and 16, 2500 iu 2xw


Pre Contest – Pre competencia (3er ciclo) 210lbs, 6'1, current 14% bf
Comienza 18 de Junio competition at the end of week 14th.



.............Dianab...Decca...Tren........Primo.......Wins
# 1 Week 20mg/d
# 2 Week 25
# 3 Week 30.......400 mg/w
# 4 Week 30.......400..................300 mg/w
# 5 Week 25.......400..................300
# 6 Week .........400......50mg eod....300
# 7 Week .........400......50..........300
# 8 Week...............................300
# 9 Week...................50.....................50mg 3xw
# 10 Week...................50.....................50mg 3xw
# 11 Week..........................................100 mg 3xw
# 12 Week...................50.....................50 mg 7xw
# 13 Week...................50.....................50 mg 7xw
# 14 Week..........................................100 mg 3xw


I am really training hard lately and body is changing dramatically even during off cycles due to the motivation of having a first competition i guess. So i want to profit as well, and invest, no problems with budget this year. did not want to use GH as i am a new bbr, but i could.

Regards and thanks

 

[kc17]

how old are you ? that cycle is a mess bro not test at all and deca and primo for 5 weeks only is a waste inmo .

 

[Chereveur]

thanks for answering...
I am 32 yo
so I will increase the weeks then for primo and decca.
then, would you use propionate instead of decca, for how many weeks? I have access to Decca and Sustanon, all the rest need to buy abroad.

you could also just say the whole cycle should be re designed as it is my first time I do it by myself.

txs

 

[TheRippedReverend]

Hi all,

I am new to this site but I've read your info for quiet a while.
I'd like to know your view point on this competition cycle. My big question is whether it is good, effective or unnecessary to use both primo and winstrol together...this is my first competition and third cycle since last year August.

Also, I dont want to use dianabol too many weeks, as I have gained weight lately and the focus now is the mirror, transforming and becoming shape plus reduce from 14% bf to 6 or 8%. The alternate weeks in tren is my invention with the idea of resting as I feel is strong product on me.

the post cycle is novaldex and prov in between weeks 5 and 8 and then 15th. and HCG in week 6, 7, 8 and then 15 and 16, 2500 iu 2xw


Pre Contest – Pre competencia (3er ciclo) 210lbs, 6'1, current 14% bf
Comienza 18 de Junio competition at the end of week 14th.



.............Dianab...Decca...Tren........Primo.......Wins
# 1 Week 20mg/d
# 2 Week 25
# 3 Week 30.......400 mg/w
# 4 Week 30.......400..................300 mg/w
# 5 Week 25.......400..................300
# 6 Week .........400......50mg eod....300
# 7 Week .........400......50..........300
# 8 Week...............................300
# 9 Week...................50.....................50mg 3xw
# 10 Week...................50.....................50mg 3xw
# 11 Week..........................................100 mg 3xw
# 12 Week...................50.....................50 mg 7xw
# 13 Week...................50.....................50 mg 7xw
# 14 Week..........................................100 mg 3xw


I am really training hard lately and body is changing dramatically even during off cycles due to the motivation of having a first competition i guess. So i want to profit as well, and invest, no problems with budget this year. did not want to use GH as i am a new bbr, but i could.

Regards and thanks

What a mess tren and deca with nolva is a nono and no ai no prami no caber

Hcg is high

Its like u hadnt done research at all not the more compound u run will be better.

Dbol!?

No test!?

 

[TheRippedReverend]

thanks for answering...
I am 32 yo
so I will increase the weeks then for primo and decca.
then, would you use propionate instead of decca, for how many weeks? I have access to Decca and Sustanon, all the rest need to buy abroad.

you could also just say the whole cycle should be re designed as it is my first time I do it by myself.

txs

Dude u sound real confused. Run two three compounds max diet traing on point. Imo drop more bf ur a long ways from home alot of ppl hv no clue how far 8% is and if ur competing u better get down to 5-6% imo or ur gonna look like a fool.

 

[RADAR]

A real mess, what is your cycle history?
How long have you been training.

We need some stats to better assist you
Height
Weight
BF

 

[smawshot01]

hey man if you have your diet and training on point and all then look at a short ester simple run. maybe:
prop or suspension 500mg wk
tren a 3-500 wk
maybe some var at 50mg wk
thats all that you need and let the diet cardio and training do its work

 

[Chereveur]

Thanks man, also I have these products... if you tell me propionate is best but the dianabol could be interesting if I already have it.

800 mg of propionate (thai)
1 gram of cypionate (thai)
2 grams of tren (thai)
1 gram of primo (thai)
1.5 winstrol (thai)
Lots of andriol
1000 pills of dianabol (brit dispensary)
I live in a very remote area of the pacific, so don’t have access to most things, I need to fly abroad for that which I will anyways to get pct and the products for the cycle.
So no much propionate in Stock but lots of dianabol.

 

[Chereveur]

ok now i paid somebody to do this for me and i like it. its my trainer. i really like how it looks but you guys have much more knowledge.

 

[stevesmi]

forget about competing this time around.. you are no where close to competing. just not worth it to go on stage and get zero applause and even boos. i've seen it happen. or worse the audience laughing at you. it happens, people who are there are impatient and if you waste their time doing your routine they will lose their patience fast with you and you will hear it.

when you are in your offseason you should still look good... 14% body fat isn't gonna work in the offseason. and expecting to drop down to under 8% this fast and still mange to hold your muscle is unrealistic. you don't have much muscle on you at all at your height and weight with that body fat. and you will get demolished cause there is gonna be a shorter dude who has more muscle and is more cut than you.

put up a pic and lets see what we have to work with and lets go from there.

 

[muscleaddiction]

What a huge cycle...that would be for a pro of anybody IMO. Way too much for an amateur doing his first competition, and without any knowledge about any of these compounds it is disaster waiting to happen. Like Steve said post a picture, let us see where you are currently at conditioning wise, and we can make a more intelligent recommendation for you bro...you really need to slow down and do a lot more research...like RippedReverend stated, no AI, your on cycle and PCT is a mess, and you really have no idea what you are doing...just being realistic here bro, this isn't a forum that doesn't care about its members.

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[RickRock13]

A pic would go a long way I agree. I don't think you are too light to compete depending on your frame and other factors. I have a buddy that is 6'2" and his last competition weight was 182 in which he won his class. He is incredibly jacked. That doesn't mean you are ready, but a pic would help I agree. If you are indeed at 14% you might have a rough time getting to stage condition (4-6%) in the time you want to without wasting muscle. Maybe giving yourself more time and taking a later contest would be wiser. Get us a pic to help you decide if competing is something you should pursue right now

 

[Chereveur]

dude nobody will laugh as i will probably be the only competitor in my class, i live in a very tiny little pacific island and the competition is my friends gym organizing, this is very basic, there is no impatient audience as they ve rarely seen bodybuilders here. they all weight like 60 kgs the most. but yes we are late and i have to start all over now... the cycle is european anyways u guys are into something else too...

 

[insanityapproved]

I'm european too and this cycle is by no means "european" lol.
Why even bother doing anything if you will be the only one in the weight class?

your cycle is a disaster, one of the most terrible ideas I have seen over here. You should throw all your steroids into the sea right away and go educate yourself .. And tell your trainer to do so aswell

 

[jester72]

I'm european too and this cycle is by no means "european" lol.
Why even bother doing anything if you will be the only one in the weight class?

your cycle is a disaster, one of the most terrible ideas I have seen over here. You should throw all your steroids into the sea right away and go educate yourself .. And tell your trainer to do so aswell

Glad I'm not the only one that's thinking this. I'm wondering if his trainer is trying to kill him, honestly.

 

[TheRippedReverend]

Glad I'm not the only one that's thinking this. I'm wondering if his trainer is trying to kill him, honestly.

And to think he paid that guy!! Lmao. Oh my someone get the toilet paper its gonna get shitty

 

[RADAR]

thanks for answering...
I am 32 yo
so I will increase the weeks then for primo and decca.
then, would you use propionate instead of decca, for how many weeks? I have access to Decca and Sustanon, all the rest need to buy abroad.

you could also just say the whole cycle should be re designed as it is my first time I do it by myself.

txs

from reading your cycle ,personally i don't think you had a clue to run a cycle.

 

[Soulthief]

I see these huge stacks sometimes and I'm amazed. I really think someone like me could make them last for years. Isn't the iron suppose to be the focus and the AAS the support? I always think, "I bet Arnold did some simple AAS program compared to today's standards but he also did squats until he passed out."

 

[jester72]

"I bet Arnold did some simple AAS program compared to today's standards but he also did squats until he passed out."

I believe I remember reading that Arnold did something like 20mg or 30mg of Dbol per day for 4 weeks leading up to a competition. I also remember something about him eating 6-7 pounds of red meat per day, just to get 1-1.5g of creatine!
That little, and STILL one of, if not THE best body to ever hit the stage!

 

[insanityapproved]

I believe I remember reading that Arnold did something like 20mg or 30mg of Dbol per day for 4 weeks leading up to a competition. I also remember something about him eating 6-7 pounds of red meat per day, just to get 1-1.5g of creatine!
That little, and STILL one of, if not THE best body to ever hit the stage!

yes along a bunch of other designer drugs

 

[muscleaddiction]

yes along a bunch of other designer drugs

Yeah...I don't think it was just Dbol.

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[Chereveur]

guys most of you are hopeless, my competition went great and the cycle turn to be amazing, there is a typical batch there where tren, win and prop are mixed for best results before contest. i reduced my bf as much as we could to 5% due to diet. i got to be second in my 80 + category and ill never take you very seriously. maybe u are consciously counter informing people over here.