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Pre and Post workout. Lets talk nutrition, around 1hr before and after.

Mavy

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This seems to be one of the most controversial subjects and everyone seems to do something completely different. Lets see if we can come to some kind of consensus what is best when, and whats a bad idea. I have been somewhat confused on this matter as of late (thanks Utler), lol, and how a few certain supps fit into the mix, particularily r-ALA. I think that I am taking in tooo much carbs around my workouts that are actually unneccesary, and that I dont need as much post-workout when drinking carbs during workout.

I have to leave here in a minute, but I will get the ball rolling, this is what I have just recently been doing pre/during/post workout. Please list your supps as well, so people can see how you are timing them.

1hr Before training:
- 1 cup of oats with flax seeds and blueberries mixed in.
- 40g whey isolate mixed in water.
- 2 T-rex

15min before training:
- 2 r-ALA

TRAINING (1-1.5hrs)
-Right when I start training: I pound back 250ml of Dextrose/Koolaid drink.
-Then I sip on 600mls of Dextrose/Koolaid drink during my workout, and space it out so it lasts me the whole workout.

ASAP after training:
-60g of whey isolate with 500ml Atkins milk.
-B-Complex
-Vit C 1000mg

1.5hrs after training:
- Full meal, meat/rice or veggies/milk etc.
(if its late, sometimes i skip this meal and eat one of the g-friends genisoy bars - gay .. I know, lol).

This is how it is done now. What I used to to previous, was not drink any simple carbs during my workout, but down a shitload of them asap afterwards, with my whey shake. And sometimes I would do both. Do you guys think that this is overkill on the carbs? I have heard drinking the simple carbs during the workout does not create the extreme need to load them after your workout, seeing as how they are never that depleted. Workouts sure do seem easier while drinking carbs during them, maybe the r-ALA helps as well. This seems to be the only place where I use r-ALA in my diet, that and on cheat days. I also do much better eating my pre carbs roughly an hour before hand. I used to eat them about 30mins prior, (just as a time contraint), but I feel much better and not as full or tired when i give them time.

My training parter would use fructose as his pre-workout carb, and would be yawning half way through his workouts. Could just be tired I guess, lol ... i try to stay away from it though. The biggest advantage of when to use fructose as a carb choice in my mind is if you use DNP, because it keeps the liver replentished, reducing lethargy and sparing muscle. Lets here what you guys are all putting down the hatch and when?

Cheers,
Mavy :)
 
Hey bro - good stuff........about 1.5 hours pre I have 1/2+ (heaping) cup of slow oats, 1.5 scoops of protein, and maybe 1/4 cup of cottage cheese..........oh and a coffee, with some carb sense skim milk..........

Then, PW I slam a glucose/whey isolate shake which holds me over for a couple hours......then, depending how I feel, I either have a solid meal (fats, fiberous carbs, and protein) or maybe another casein shake with skim, some veggies, and a few (hundred) handfuls of peanuts............then it's lights out.
 
Damn.. you guys seem to have it down. Here is my basic routine:
1 hour before... 70 grams protien, 4 MASS AMINOS, 4 ULTRA 40, green tea, gensing, lean out, ephedra.

Immediately after... 70 grams protien, 4 MASS AMINOS, 4 ULTRA 40

20 minutes later... cup and a half of oatmeal.

I need to do more homework obviously!
 
I usually eat some oats or whole wheat break pre workout, after I hit a shake with some dextrose (aka sweettarts since I can find dextrose in pure form) then I have a full meal 1 hr after training,then one more 1 hr after that and goto bed
 
i dont like lifting on a full stomach i like to eat a reg meal no less than 2 hours before hand of protein and carbs..immediately after my workout i use this
10 oz grape juice
1 cup oats
some maple syrup
at least 70 g of whey
10g of creatine
5 g of glutamine
500mg of r-ala
its somewhere around 130 carbs and 900 cals
2 hours later ill eat a solid meal usually chicken/rice or tuna rice carbs here are rather low under 75 grams as i only eat about 200-250 g of carbs but my protein is out of control lol
 
wnt2bBeast said:
i dont like lifting on a full stomach i like to eat a reg meal no less than 2 hours before hand of protein and carbs..immediately after my workout i use this
10 oz grape juice
1 cup oats
some maple syrup
at least 70 g of whey
10g of creatine
5 g of glutamine
500mg of r-ala
its somewhere around 130 carbs and 900 cals
2 hours later ill eat a solid meal usually chicken/rice or tuna rice carbs here are rather low under 75 grams as i only eat about 200-250 g of carbs but my protein is out of control lol
bro - you dont need that insulin spike 2 hours befor eyou work out...lose the grape juice....you'll crash and burn...............pluss, not sure that the meal is 130g of carbs.....might want to recalc.........1 cup of oats is maybe 50-60g
 
JKurz1 said:
bro - you dont need that insulin spike 2 hours befor eyou work out...lose the grape juice....you'll crash and burn...............pluss, not sure that the meal is 130g of carbs.....might want to recalc.........1 cup of oats is maybe 50-60g
this is my post workout meal lol
gr juice 52 grams
oats 54 g
syrup 14-28 g
protein powder 10gr
i neer eat sugary carbs in any other meal unless its a cheat meal
 
sup mavy bro

here is how I do it ....

1 hr before training :

- chicken breast and brown rice or whole wheat bread + slices of zero fat turkey breast + cottage cheese + no fat no sugar yogurt .


during training : only water .


- ASAP after training : Dextrose + vit C ( 2 g ) + whey protein .

I don't use carbs when training because that would make me stop using my bodyfat as fuel ..... I would use the carbs as fuel ....

Maybe when I am bulking I will use some gatorade during training ...


Victor
 
pre- usually chicken and some rice , or a shake consisting of 1/2 c. oats, 2 scoops whey ( ~40 grams) some fish oil. and r-ala
immediate post workout- aminos, creatine drink ( vitargo, tryin it out) protein drink (~40grams and glutamine powder) , and multi's.
about hour to hour and a half later, i usually have my steak and rice, or steak and potato's. Some kinda of solid food with enough protein/carbs and efa's
 
Mavy, I don't understand why you are taking dextrose right before and while working out? Won't this cause a huge spike in blood sugar levels?
 
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