Please help me for my First Cycle!!

[mephisto2046]

Hello guys,

My stats are;

Age:26
height: 1.88 CM
weight: 93 KG
Fat percent: 15%
Experience level: 2 years of natural bodybuilding with correct eating.
Goal: to be 95kgs with 8%bodyfat (i don't want to compete)

An experienced bodybuilder who has a gym in Istanbul, suggested me a cycle and sold the drugs. but from people i showed, they said it is crazy amount of dosages and it wont be beneficial for me. so now i dont know what to do with this drugs. It will be my first ever cycle so i dont want to ruin it. I will appriciate any help.


The drugs that i have are:
Sustanon 350mg/ml
Deca mix 275mg/ml
Winstrol 75mg/ml
and bunch of dianabol tablets.

the cycle he wrote to me is for 10 weeks long;

1st week - 350mg sust + 275mg deca

2nd week - 2*350mg sust + 2*275mg deca + dianabol 2 tab ED

3rd week - 2*350mg sust + 2*275mg deca + dianabol 3 tab ED
+ 3*75mg winstrol

4th week - 2*350mg sust + 2*275mg deca + dianabol 4 tab ED
+ 3*75mg winstrol

5th week - 2*350mg sust + 2*275mg deca + dianabol 5 tab ED
+ 3*75mg winstrol

6th week - 2*350mg sust + 2*275mg deca + dianabol 6 tab ED
+ 3*75mg winstrol

7th week - 2*350mg sust + 2*275mg deca + dianabol 5 tab ED
+ 3*75mg winstrol

8th week - 2*350mg sust + 2*275mg deca + dianabol 4 tab ED
+ 3*75mg winstrol

9th week - 2*350mg sust + 2*275mg deca + dianabol 3 tab ED
+ 3*75mg winstrol

10th week - 2*350mg sust + 2*275mg deca + dianabol 2 tab ED
+ 3*75mg winstrol

We didnt talk about a PCT yet. he said to come after cycle for PCT. only he suggested to use nolva ED during cycle and something for protecting lever.

I want to know if he is trying to kill me or what???

What can be the correct dosages for a cycle with this drugs? which one to use or not use for first cycle? and what will be the PCT should look like?


Thanks in advance...

 

[dylangemelli]

that entire layout is way too much to even read... i stopped right away... you must learn how to write things out... second, your friend is an idiot... third, i will at least help you with pct... fourth, that's WAY too much shit to be running on your first cycle... test and winstrol is plenty...

pct

clomid 25/25/25/25 AGguys.com
Unleashed/post cycle combo IF OUT OF STOCK SUBSTITUTE WITH TEST INFUSION AND FORGED POST CYCLE AT MRSUPPS.COM
forma stanzol mrsupps.com
daa powerchews or powder

Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM

optional
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com

 

[joeblow12345]

I agree with Dylan that's way too much and your friend is an idiot. He is either trying to make a bunch of money off you or just doesn't know any better, or both. Here is what I'd do if I were you.

Week 1-12 sustanon 350 mg week
1-4 dbol 30 mg day
1-4 n2guard
6-10 hcgenerate
10-14 hcg 1000 ius week
1-12 adex 0.5 mg e3d or eod

Pct 15-19
Clomid 25 mg day
Post cycle/ unleashed, or forged pct and test infusion
Forma
Daa




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[ppgfreak]

Wow that's to much man! Your friend has been taking shit so long that he now thinks high amounts are needed.....there not!

350mg of sust a week is a great amount. Maybe you could step it up to 500 if you want to. But 700 is way to much! Plus I would never run Deca my self, and no one would recommend it for a first cycle! Stick with Sust and winny or Sust and dbol.

My friend is a bodybuilder. The problem with him is that he makes all his money from selling steroids. So there for, he recommends double the correct amount to make double the sale/money. So it sounds like your friend is trying to make money vs worrying about your health and safety.

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[mephisto2046]

Sorry for the long post. Next time i ll try to post things more understandable.

the man is not my friend. he is 55 years old bodybuilder that has degrees in international championships. I just didn't have a source to buy the juice, so i found him through a friend. I now believe he just cared about the money. Thanks for the warning btw.

ppgfreak: thanks for reading the long post=) u said i can go with sust+winny, or sust+dbol. Is it ok to take them together as a first cycle? and how the PCT would be for each. and my goal is to get more muscle while being on the same level of bodyfat. sust+winny or sust+dbol is suitable for this purpose?

Thanks in advance

 

[stevesmi]

2 years isn't enough time to compete unless you are doing a competition out of your neighbors garage vs. the kids on your street. it takes years to build a base, not overnight.

also to go from 15% to 8% or whatever on 1 cycle is unrealistic especially that one you laid out which is a major bloat cycle. you would actually increase fat on it most likely being a newb... now if you were experienced you can cut on any AAS of course, but a newb you are gonna get too excited and want to bulk up . deca is very calorie dependent to build mass, meaning to get the most out of it you need to eat A LOT.. if you don't want to eat and want to comp then pick something else.

your friend is just trying to sell you gear and a dream, not realistic. i have been bodybuilding for the better part of 15 years.. juicing since my late 20's, now in my mid 30's and i will be competing this spring or next spring depending on how work goes and probably will win or take 2nd place in a regional competition in my divisions weight class and then probably get 3rd or 2nd if i am lucky in my division. you have been training 2 years and you think after a 10 week cycle you will be ready? not gonna happen

and also you should never stack a progestin with nolva. unless you want to invest in some bra's. it will increase your chance of gyno tremendously. your friend should fuck off for giving you that advice... either he is trying to purposely fuck you over so you grow boobs, or more likely he just doesn't know shit like dylan said.

 

[mephisto2046]

To be 95 kg with 8% bf is my long term goal, not after a single cycle. Also i said my goal is not to compete. My expectations from the first cycle is to keep the bf same And add on some quality muscle. i already bought the gear, so now i plan to use The sustanon And keep the rest for next season. i ll add primobolan and proviron. 8 week cycle 500mg sust + 400 mg primo. How would that be for first cycle? Ot maybe sust+dbol or sust+winny? How would they be for first cycle?
Thanks for the replies

 

[joeblow12345]

To be 95 kg with 8% bf is my long term goal, not after a single cycle. Also i said my goal is not to compete. My expectations from the first cycle is to keep the bf same And add on some quality muscle. i already bought the gear, so now i plan to use The sustanon And keep the rest for next season. i ll add primobolan and proviron. 8 week cycle 500mg sust + 400 mg primo. How would that be for first cycle? Ot maybe sust+dbol or sust+winny? How would they be for first cycle?
Thanks for the replies

Bro running sustanon for less then 12 weeks is a waste. The majority of the blends are long esters which aren't gonna peak for well over 5-6 weeks. So if you run it 8 weeks your wasting the best part. Run it just like I wrote it above. I layed it out from beginning to end with pct included.


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[mephisto2046]

Joeblow; thanks for the reply. i am new to this and there are lot of unknown gear in the cycle U posted. Can U explain that with details plz? i Never heard of n2guard, hcgenerate (is it same as hcg?). And dont know about hcg during cycle. Unleashed, forged, test infusion,forma, daa; also dont know anything about them.
after my yesterday research, i have in mind; 10 weeks sustanon 500mg + primobolan 400mg + 4weeks dbol 40mg ed + proviron 50mg; for pct- hcg + nolvadex + clomen.

Do U think sust dbol alone Will be better?

Thanks a lot

 

[joeblow12345]

Joeblow; thanks for the reply. i am new to this and there are lot of unknown gear in the cycle U posted. Can U explain that with details plz? i Never heard of n2guard, hcgenerate (is it same as hcg?). And dont know about hcg during cycle. Unleashed, forged, test infusion,forma, daa; also dont know anything about them.
after my yesterday research, i have in mind; 10 weeks sustanon 500mg + primobolan 400mg + 4weeks dbol 40mg ed + proviron 50mg; for pct- hcg + nolvadex + clomen.

Do U think sust dbol alone Will be better?

Thanks a lot

N2guard is on cycle support for your liver, heart, bp, and anything else you can think of that juice will throw out of whack.

Hcgenerate is very similar to hcg and is used on cycle to keep your balls from shrinking.

Blast the hcg before pct to kick start hpta and get your balls working again.

Unleashed and test infusion will lower shbg and raise free test. Use one or the other.

Forged pct and post cycle will detoxify your body and raise test levels so use one or the other.

Forma is a topical ai that is used on cycle or in pct to lower estrogen to tolerable levels but won't crush it like nolva will. The body needs some estrogen to function properly.

Daa is a natty test booster that isn't suppressive so it's a good idea to throw it in pct.

As far as the cycle you researched goes, it's too much for a beginner. You have no idea how 1 drug will affect you let alone 4. So that's why I suggested test and dbol. The dbol will hit fast and hard so if you can't handle it you will know way before the sus kicks in.


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