Please help me design first Transderm cycle

[njguy1]

Please help me design first Transderm cycle - complete story included!

Hello Everyone,
Let me give you some back story.
Stats:
29
male
6ft
220lb
16%ish body fat

3 years ago, i was 470lbs. I lost 300lbs by doing things really dumb, and not eating food and running my ass off. Got annorexic and down to 140 before my doc told me to eat food or die.

I always was a big guy. College offensive lineman, so i had good muscle memory
1.5 years ago i started to lift heavy. I shot for power lifting, and succeeded!

I now weigh 220lbs...my problem?

I blew my natty test levels into shit by eatting less then 10g of fat a day for that period when i lost 300lbs... I was eatting sub 1000 cal for over a year.

Now? I gain weight VERY VERY easily due to my document low T count. I eat 1800cal a day to maintain my weight, and its driving me insane.

over the last 3 months, i have been on a quest to get TRT from my doc for the following reasons
1) i dont want to inject myself, needles scare me plain and simple
2) TRT in the long run is cheaper then buying Test-C myself.

I have gone for 4 rounds of blood work, and an MRI just to be safe that my putitary glands were ok (and they are)

ready for the shocker!
my total T count is 40!!! yes 40!!
estrogen is normal, and "free" test was extremely low too ( i dont remember the # off the top of my head)

*my thyroid was fine too

I have never messed with AAS before, those numbers are because of my diet and the fact that I work night shift.


So, after all that work, my doctor REFUSED to put me on test injections. He would only give me Androgel

FUCK ANDROGEL! 4 months of my time wasted and he wont give me TRT.

I plan on getting a second opionion, however i saw Transderm and want to give this a try on my own to see where it can get me.

With that in mind, can you guys please help me design 2 cycles

A first time "bulking cycle"
GOALS
1) be-able to eat above 2500 calories every day, doing 4 day a week powerlifting sessions 1hr each, and NOT GAIN FAT!!!
2) drop some stomach fat while putting on size, and eating at lease 2500 cal a day

A First time "cutting cycle"
GOALS:
1) maintain muscle mass eatting at lease 2500 calories
2) shread down my stomach fat

things to note. From the drastic weight loss, I hold stomach fat and have lots of extra skin. I hold fat in my love handles and stomach "puches" easialy. I put on good chest/back size good

Currently power lifting #'s
Squat - 600lb x 1
Bench - 390 x1
DL - 505x 1
all natty.

Please please help me,

For both cycles I'm looking to go trans-dermal, no injectables. I am thinking Test base (of course) but dont know what to combine it with for bulking for a first time

For cutting, i am also willing to consider clen and T3 as my thyroid came out "normal" but on the lower side.

Please help me here guys. Im a hungry boy! I know its possible, as I watch youtube videos of Mark Lobliner CUTTING WEIGHT on like 400g protein, 60fat and 300carbs

thats what I eat in TWO DAYS people... and please don't tell me its my diet, i track all my macros down to the sweet and low packet. I lost 300lbs i know my nutrition! I am dead postivie my missing factor is my shitty test production and the AAS cycles that I'm sure people like Mark are on...

thanks ahead of time for the help!!!

 

[ballslee]

Okay, first definitely go get a second opinion about those test results from a doctor. Androgel is not terrible, it is reasonable for getting to the normal/high range of test. But it does not accomplish supra physiological levels like juice will.

secondly, you should be able to up your calories and not gain fat. you should add protein though to accomplish it, not carbs.
did he test your insulin levels? you could be extremely insulin desensitized as well.

I think with the test transdermals, I would definitely do a cutter before i would do a bulk in your situation. reason being is you want to get some of that skin tight again. not sure if you have asked doctors about this or not, but might should consider lipo if it wont go away. But there are some good creams and lotions out there to help with that.

I would do this for your cutter:
1-10 Test Trans 1 ML - 2ML a day (2 times a day) 1ml being on the low side, 2 ml being what I would assume is a good dosage for you.
1-10 winstrol 1ml once a day
1-10 aromasin 12.5 EOD
Hcgenerate and then weeks 7-10 Hcg 1000IU
11-15 Clomid 25mg ED
11-15 DAA
11-15 Unleashed/PCT combo
11-15 Forma-stanzol
11-15 Ostarine ** optional

For a bulker that would kind of be lean mass:
1-10 test
1-8/10 superdrol transdermal
others the same as above

*stay away from the tren for now. optional to switch superdrol for dbol


don't use t3 or clen. you can consider albuterol tho

 

[njguy1]

Thansk for the reply,

yes i've considered teh lipo but its very expensive, not covered and worse of all i will have to take 3 week off from work...which in my case, is just not possible.

I was going to do Tren/Test but after reading your recommendation, that makes sence, I'm switching to test/winny

Why stay away from T3 - everyone i've heard and recommend says it allows you to eat like 300-500 extra on your cut but upping your thyroid

I'm pretty sure my insulin came back fine. The endo doc ran full blood work my first round of blood work, and the only thing that was out of wack was my test levels. I'll have to go back and check. Do you know the codes to get insulin checked? the lab codes? what should I look for on my blood results? i have all the papers.

thanks

 

[joeblow12345]

I agree with ballsee on the cycles but for test 1 ml day is enough. I also suggest the cutter first then bulk with Superdrol and test. If you want you could add some n2burn and n2slin in the cut cycle. The n2burn will curb appetite and help burn some fat, the n2slin will help maximize nutrient usage. If you want some more info on the available transdermals click the link in my sig.


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