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Please comment on my 4th cycle.

Toenail Juice Z

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Please comment on my 4th cycle

WEEK***SUSTANON****DECA****Winstrol****
1*******500mg******400mg***************
2*******750mg******400mg***************
3*******750mg******400mg***************
4*******750mg******400mg***************
5*******750mg******400mg***************
6*******750mg******400mg******50mg(eod)
7*******750mg******400mg******50mg(eod)
8*******750mg******400mg******50mg(eod)
9*******750mg******200mg******50mg(eod)
10******750mg******200mg******50mg(eod)

I have Nolvadex, Clomid, and Proviron. I will be taking 25mg/day proviron on weeks 4,5, and 6.

I was thinking of adding some d-bol, but because it didn't benefit me much on my previous cycle I didn't.

I've never used 400mg of deca before (only 200mg) so I'm a bit concerned about deca dick, but i've thrown in some winstrol for a bit of deca safety and extra strength.
Winters coming so ill be bulking from now on.

My stats are age:23, 5ft 11", 198lbs, bodyfat = unknown (perhaps 10-12%).

Daily I will be consuming approximately 200-250g protein/day, and a minimum of 4000 calories, multivitamins, and cod liver oil caps.

Training will be 1 bodypart/day 5 x a week(no longer than 60 minutes) for maximum muscle recovery and musculay hypertrophy.


I appreciate anyones thoughts/suggestions. :)
 
Nice cycle...The Test will take care of any Deca Dick problems. I would also take the Winny every day to ensure a constant level in your system

M18
 
whatever said:
why are you starting the 1st week with 500mg sust

You might disagree with me, but I just feel that coming on hard after not juicing for over 4 months is not beneficial.

I may not be right, but starting with a moderate/low dose makes me feel better. :)

Mustang, you have a point but these Winstrol Depots are too expensive in Europe. They cost about $10-$15 each!
 
cycle looks real good, but here is my question, how many times have u taken a cycle with 750 mg of test in it? just wondering if it is time to take some more test, since your body my be used to 750mg of test.
 
jc21 said:
cycle looks real good, but here is my question, how many times have u taken a cycle with 750 mg of test in it? just wondering if it is time to take some more test, since your body my be used to 750mg of test.


I have never taken 750mg of test. My last cycle was with 500mg.
 
I would say that 400mg of Deca per week were pushing it (mainly due to the 750mg of test). I think you would see the same gains with 300mg/week and save yourself some of the side effects.

Why are you only suing the proviron for weeks 4,5, & 6? It should also be used post cycle to keep you hard and to help you avoid any slowdown of libido.
 
2Thick said:
I would say that 400mg of Deca per week were pushing it (mainly due to the 750mg of test). I think you would see the same gains with 300mg/week and save yourself some of the side effects.

Why are you only suing the proviron for weeks 4,5, & 6? It should also be used post cycle to keep you hard and to help you avoid any slowdown of libido.

Really, I thought 600mg and over were pushing it!
I can't get my hands on 100mg decas. (I don't even know if they exist).

Maybe ile just stick with my usual dose of 200mg/week then.

I am using proviron on weeks 4,5&6 because of the sustanon kicking in at week 4. I want to avoid gyno without getting it first and then having to use nolvadex to combat it. I got gyno from my previous cycle of 500mg Sustanon, dbol & deca cycle.
 
I think 400mg/week of Deca should be fine and won't give you any problems. I would stay with that

M18
 
i did 400mg deca and 500mg sust

it was awsome went form 171 to 185 1/2 WOOHOO i hit the 750mg sust one week DAM when that shit kicked in i felt it. Blood Pressure was up alittle to but that shot made me strong and gave me a huge BOOST


make sure u have clomids and HCG 4 weeks after last shot. might want to use them during the cycle too GOOD LUCK john
 
babyfaced monster said:
this is going to be your 4th cycle and only 198lb? what did you weigh before your first cycle? a buck and a quarter?

I weighed about 154lbs before my first cycle.

My cycles have been light. (deca at 200mg, Sustanon at 250mg, etc) If I did a gram of test like you probably did on your first cycle then I bet ide be 50lbs heavier than you!.

So think before you open your mouth and start blabbering bullshit.

Not everyone goes for the freak look anyway!:D
 
u need to do something with the winny rather then taking it eod because of the half life, either cut your weeks short on 50mg a day, or break the pill in half at 25mg a day would be better. The rest of the cycle looks good, and I like how you started out at 500mg of sust rather then 750. You don't want to hit yourself to hard out of no where, messes me up to. Listen 2 2thick about the prov also, it doesn't make sense those weeks 2 me.
 
Ok thanks a lot bros. I have changed my cycle according to what I have heared.

The new one will look like this:

WEEK**DIANABOL*SUSTANON****DECA***WINSTROL*
1*******35mg****500mg******400mg***********
2*******40mg****750mg******400mg***********
3*******40mg****750mg******400mg***********
4*******40mg****750mg******400mg***********
5***************750mg******400mg***********
6***************750mg******400mg***********
7***************750mg******400mg***********
8***************750mg******400mg***50mg(ed)
9***************750mg******200mg***50mg(ed)
10**************750mg******200mg***50mg(ed)
 
if it is your 4th cycle i would suggest the following;
wk 1-4 750mg sust, 400mg deca, 30mg dbol a day
wk 5-8 750mg sust, 400mg deca, 50mg winny a day

i think you should definitely add dbol the first 4 weeks. and why tapper down on the deca???
 
Do you already have the sust? If not, I'd go with enanthate. Save some $, kicks in faster, and for me I got better gains.
 
growin' said:
Do you already have the sust? If not, I'd go with enanthate. Save some $, kicks in faster, and for me I got better gains.

No i do not already have the Sust, but it's the only test i've ever used. Maybe ile go for enanthate but i've heared many times that

TEST IS TEST!


Thanks anyway:)
 
Exactly, usually sust is spendier. I like enanthate alot better than sust because I felt enanthate after about 1 1/2-2 weeks as opposed to 3-4. I have only done one with enanthate and one with sust, so others may be better references than I. Try something new, that's what I did, and was very happy.
 
Yeah, why not experiment with a different test. (I heared Sustanons overrated anyway!) I have changed my cycle for the last time. Now what do you think?

WEEK**DIANABOL*PRIMOTESTON*DECA***WINSTROL*
1*******35mg****500mg******400mg***********
2*******40mg****750mg******400mg***********
3*******40mg****750mg******400mg***********
4*******40mg****750mg******400mg***********
5***************750mg******400mg***********
6***************750mg******400mg***********
7***************750mg******400mg***********
8***************750mg******400mg***50mg(ed)
9***************750mg******200mg***50mg(ed)
10**************750mg******200mg***50mg(ed)

If I were on Sustanon I would start clomid 4 weeks after my last shot. I was wondering when to start clomid now that i'm gonna use enanthate?
 
i dont know shit but i do no i am on sust week 5 and it is just kicking now i wish i would have read up on front loading i gained 7 lbs in 10 days and nothing before 1 or 2 lbs anybody have input on that
 
Your deca comes in a vial correct? If so then there is no reason why you cant use 300mgs/wk.

Also 25mgs of proviron is very mild and especially only for 3 weeks.

I dont know if you have used it before at such a low dose for such a short period of time. Maybe it works for you though.
 
The Iron Game said:
Your deca comes in a vial correct? If so then there is no reason why you cant use 300mgs/wk.

Also 25mgs of proviron is very mild and especially only for 3 weeks.

I dont know if you have used it before at such a low dose for such a short period of time. Maybe it works for you though.

It comes in an amp. it is 100mg/ml and it is a 2ml amp, so how do you draw only 100mg from an amp that contains 200mg?
 
Toenail Juice Z said:


It comes in an amp. it is 100mg/ml and it is a 2ml amp, so how do you draw only 100mg from an amp that contains 200mg?

which company is it that makes this 2ml amp?

also have you not heard of storing in syringes? if you do wish to use 300mgs dont use 400 just because your amp is only 200mgs.
 
The Iron Game said:


which company is it that makes this 2ml amp?

also have you not heard of storing in syringes? if you do wish to use 300mgs dont use 400 just because your amp is only 200mgs.

I have the organon yellow tops.
What is this "storing in syringes". It's the first time i've heared of something like that. Please explain.

Lets say I only use 1ml, and keep the other ml in the syringe, does this mean I will be getting 100mg instead of 200mg?

I beleive it does. Shit if only I had used my head.:D
 
sounds good man! the only thing i would do different is hit the 750 from the get go. and the 400 deca. go to your highest dose right out the gate. i would also extend the v for 3-4 weeks after u finish sus/deca. and i would also go 50 mgs every day. good luck
 
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