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PCT for simple short beginner cycle...

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I'd like to do my first ever cycle but before I do I'd like to get as educated and knowledgeable as possible on the cycle I will do and the proper PCT to cover all the bases. I'm 32 years old. I'm 6'1" tall and weigh 205 pounds. My goals are to be a little bit bigger than a IFBB Men's Physique competitor but not as big as a heavy weight pro bodybuilder. I don't want to rush into it and I'm not looking to compete anytime soon. I want to go into this very conservative with patience and start off slow and low. There's no need to rush. If someday it requires 1000mg of test a week to achieve my goals then I accept that but I want to gradually and slowly work my way up to higher dosasges over time with shorter cycles, cycling on and off. I think my main focus should be on health, diet and exercise.

I'd like to do a short simple 4 week cycle that is very basic with low dosage of test enanthate or cypionate. I was thinking 185mg to 200mg of test a week total. Two injections a week = 95mg to 100mg injection on Monday morning and Thursday night, 3.5 days apart. The AI I will choose is Arimidex for on cycle. I will switch over to Aromasin for PCT with Clomid and Ostarine.

What dose of Arimidex should I use through out the cycle to control estrogen? With regards to estrogen sides. I've had oily skin through out my life including present day with zips/pimples on my upper back, shoulders, back of neck. I started growing hair on my chest when I was in 9th grade high school, so I'm pretty hairy. Maybe it was an abundance of free test and DHT in my body. I really believe I would be very sensitive to steroids that aromatize. My gut instinct tells me to take .5mg of Arimidex everyday or eod while on this cycle, possibly more?

For PCT, how many weeks should the PCT be?

HCG? From what I read here and on other forums it's best to use 250iu twice a week on cycle and for an additional two weeks after the final test shot while the esthers are clearing. Should I inject the HCG the night before I inject the test or on the same day or day after? I've read conflicting information. Some studies show that you should pin HCG 24 hours to 48 hours before you inject test.

Clomid as my SERM for PCT. I need advice on the dosage. My reading on different forums says that Clomid is best used at 25mg every day through out PCT for 4 to 6 weeks. I saw a clinical study saying that for best results it's best to use 25mg of Clomid all through out a PCT because too high of a dosage of Clomid is counter productive in raising LH and can start to desensitize LH over a certain number of weeks, and also can cause mood swings.

Ostarine? Have any of you heard or tried Ostarine? Some members here have posted how they been using it in their PCT with aromasin and clomid or nolva with great results. Should I include it in my PCT?

Reason I mentioned Arimidex for on cycle is from all I read it's a better AI for on cycle and Aromasin works better for PCT as it works better with Clomid and Nolvadex.
 
You need to do at least 12 weeks with long Esters like test Cyp or test E , Sus etc ! Not a fan of hcg shut me down more , it should only be run during your cycle at like 500 iu twice a week , not during pct !! You can also run Aromisan at 12.5 mg EOD to keep Estrogen levels on check !! You must wait 3 weeks after last pin and run out as follows

Clomid 50 / 50 / 25 / 25

Aromisan 12.5 mg EOD


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A 4 week cycle of long esters is a waste and will do nothing, and so will the dose you are planning to run. It makes no sense to shut yourself down with a dose that is barely above what your natural levels would be. Your gains won't be much different than natural if at all. It's good to start at lower doses, but I would go under 350-400mg per week. If you are running enanthate or cypionate, you really need to run them at least 10 weeks in my opinion. It takes a good 4-5 weeks just to hit peak concentration in the blood.

I would run aromasin on cycle for estrogen control. Run it at 12.5-15mg EOD. I would also recommend running N2guard on cycle as well

HCG should only be used as a kickstart to PCT. Running it the whole cycle makes it counterproductive. Just start it a couple weeks before your cycle ends and run it until PCT starts.

For your entire PCT layout, use this:

Liquid Clomid 50/50/25/25 (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
Liquid Aromasin (AncillaryGuys // AG-Guys.com - The #1 online Natural Ancillary retailer!)
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Ostarine 25mg per day (SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators)


http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...17-not-your-average-test-booster-1257533.html
 
Hi Rick Rick will the blurry vision and sides surface at such 50 mg of Clomid ED ? Is this enough to restore HPTA function , what's with all this 300 mg a day dosages ? I'm very sensitive to compounds and sides and not keen on Clomid !


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I've never had a single side effect from Clomid at 50mg per day, but Nolva makes me feel like complete shit.

As for the doses, I'm saying why would you shut yourself down to only put your test levels at the same as they would be if you weren't taking anything at all naturally? That makes absolutely no sense. If you are sensitive to side effects, don't use steroids. It's really pretty simple. Side effects on 350-400mg of Test per week will be minimal. You just need to keep estrogen in check with an AI and run a proper cycle support product like N2guard and you will be fine
 
Clomid is awesome if you don't over do the dosage. 50mg is perfect and you shouldn't have any issues there
 
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