PCT after 3 weeks of deca+susta

[Fabry91]

hi... another post, another question...
i stop my cycle for pain while peeing and i have to go to my medic tomorrow... i ve done 3 weeks of deca + sustanon 250 mg of each one every week... so 250+250 for 3 weeks...
now, how do the PCT?
i've got HCG, tribulus, and clomid.

i follow the common protocol or something less aggressive for doses and duration cause of my short cycle?

thanks for support.

 

[joshrutz56]

Pain from the urethra ? Or from abdominal ?


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[Fabry91]

Both

 

[stevesmi]

bud this is insane here. in this day and age there is no excuse for you to not have everything prepared before starting steroids. this means having your PCT on hand and ready to go, and all your ancillaries as well. I can understand if this was 10 years ago, but in the year 2016 with all your ancillaries so easy to get, NO EXCUSE for getting yourself into this mess and just now trying to figure out how to run your pct!

first off you should have already been in aromasin, otherwise your estrogen levels are SKY HIGH!!

second i wouldn't touch that hcg, if your estrogen is high and you add hcg you are going to have major problems. run your SERM and grab some hcgenerate ES. run those for 8 weeks gradually lowering your SERM dose. assuming you didn't have existing HPTA issues (you ran pre cycle bloods right?) you should recover after 3-4 months post deca

 

[muskate]

I agree with Steve. Get a good natural testosterone booster like HCGenerate ES from n2bm.com.

Since you were only on 3 weeks, you just need a good 4 week mini PCT. Once the HCGenerate arrives, dose the following for 30 days:
HCGenerate ES 5 capsules/day
clomid 25mg/day

Next time - Remember to include the proper support supplements with your cycle:
1. An AI to keep estrogen in the low-normal range. Aromasin at 10mg EOD is a good dosage.
2. An anti-prolactin drug to keep prolactin in the low-normal range. Cabergoline at 0.25mg EOD is a good dosage.

The support supplements are very important because high estrogen and prolactin levels can lead to side effects like gyno and water retention.

 

[Fabry91]

I have followed my trainer: He build all for Me cuz i m newbie. Was :
6 weeks of cycle

Pct was:
After a week after Last injection use hcg 1000 ui Monday and thursday for 3 weeks then use clomid At 100mg for 5 days.

But reading around i ve taked cognition that it s a crazy pct maybe.. And so ask for a better and soft one..

 

[Fabry91]

He don t suggest me to use ai for not overload Liver (True or not i don t know)

 

[stevesmi]

I have followed my trainer: He build all for Me cuz i m newbie. Was :
6 weeks of cycle

Pct was:
After a week after Last injection use hcg 1000 ui Monday and thursday for 3 weeks then use clomid At 100mg for 5 days.

But reading around i ve taked cognition that it s a crazy pct maybe.. And so ask for a better and soft one..

fire this trainer. he is dangerous and he is going to fuck you up

 

[Fabry91]

yes... and maybe it's better that i stopped everything after 3 weeks... bad association of AAS, bad PCT, bad all... have any sense run some AI now? or it's too late and useless?

 

[Fabry91]

I agree with Steve. Get a good natural testosterone booster like HCGenerate ES from n2bm.com.

Since you were only on 3 weeks, you just need a good 4 week mini PCT. Once the HCGenerate arrives, dose the following for 30 days:
HCGenerate ES 5 capsules/day
clomid 25mg/day

Next time - Remember to include the proper support supplements with your cycle:
1. An AI to keep estrogen in the low-normal range. Aromasin at 10mg EOD is a good dosage.
2. An anti-prolactin drug to keep prolactin in the low-normal range. Cabergoline at 0.25mg EOD is a good dosage.

The support supplements are very important because high estrogen and prolactin levels can lead to side effects like gyno and water retention.

After how much time i start this Little pct?
U suggest me to take aromasin also if i haven't used it until Now?

 

[Fabry91]

I wait the 21 days after Last Pin of deca?
Use only clomid or also nolvadex?
No use of aromasin?

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

Some of these so called trainers have no business coaching people. This is exactly how people get hurt. I would run the mini PCT that Muskate suggested in a previous post. HCGenerate ES and clomid should be plenty. You don't want nolva since you ran deca which is a nandrolone. This can cause prolactin issues. No need to run aromasin at this point.

 

[Fabry91]

Ok Thanks for support.
Wait the 21 days from Last Pin or start asap with te pct?

 

[Lev Butlerov]

I am sorry to tell you that, but your trainer is an asshole who does not know shit about steroid use, or any other PED's.

First of all, in any case 6 weeks would be way too few for sustanon and deca cycle. For this sort of cycles you need to run these compounds for at least 12 weeks, since these are very slow acting compounds, and in 6 weeks you just won't have the time to experience their effects.

Then for the AI's - they are not liver toxic, and they are essential when using these compounds, since excessive estrogen levels can lead to a lot of side effects. Also, I see he did not suggest you to use cabergoline, which is necessary with deca, since this steroid will increase prolactin levels....

All in all, I would give your trainer a beating for all of his advise. Next time on have all you need for PCT before even starting a cycle, because this type of situations can take place anytime.

 

[Fabry91]

Ye, bad experience with him and fortunately i m one that is never convinced and i have asked Here..
Guys Now how much time I have to wait before start clomid? On internet i ve readed to wait 21 days from Last Pin of deca... it s correct?

 

[Jay Scott]

I have followed my trainer: He build all for Me cuz i m newbie. Was :
6 weeks of cycle

Pct was:
After a week after Last injection use hcg 1000 ui Monday and thursday for 3 weeks then use clomid At 100mg for 5 days.

But reading around i ve taked cognition that it s a crazy pct maybe.. And so ask for a better and soft one..

I would never go back to that trainer