Paranoid to try Clen-Should I be?

[KOArtist]

I had been planning to try clen for the first time ever after my current ox cycle is over. Then I heard about how it "hardens your heart", which has supposedly been proven in numerous studies. What exactly does that mean? Im a boxer, so would my cardio be temporarily, or worse, permanently hindered? Im not exactly "safety first" (done DNP, Tren, etc, etc.) but I dont need no stinking "hard heart". Any suggestions/warnings/opinions on the safety of clen MUCH appreciated. peace

 

[poantrex]

Clenbuterol is not a good idea my friend - there have been many studies proving that clenbuterol causes left ventricle hypertrophy (without going into detail. This is not good), insulin resistance, and hypothyroidism if heavily abused.

There are simply better and safer ways to lose the weight - honestly, i'd do it without the drugs if I had to do it over.

 

[boss]

if heavily abused.

ok you said it right there. he never said he was going to live on the shit.

 

[chesty]

Yes, if heavily abused. But if taken intelligently it works great.

 

[BigAndy69]

Honestly, clen is one of the harshest drugs I've ever used (rec or AS). Very underated in terms of sides.

IMO, it is one of the best PCT items one can use. And in combination with a little T3; tthe combo is the most potent fat burner with safety in mind.

 

[ceo]

hate what it does to me.

nervousness/anxiety
tremors
muscle cramps
tachycardia
elevated BP
sweating
headache

all that at only 80mcg.

no more for me.

 

[canadianhitman]

I can use clen at up to 100mcg/day, and the sweating is the only side. That being said, I think I am somehow immune to tachycardia...I can take in ridiculous amounts of stimulants without experiencing a single palpitation.

 

[Cutting Concept]

i am taking clen right now, so far no sides (little early to tell - only week 2 as of this saturday),
but so far i havent really toned up or lost too much weight (but again too early to decide if this actually will work).

 

[mic79]

You need to read up on clen.You say uve onle been on it for 2 weeks.Youre only supposed to cycle it 2weeks on 2weeks off.

 

[allnaturalier]

clen sucks, it makes you nervous, headaches, bronco aspirated..
..
i´ll stay clear of it if i were u ...
try to cut body fat based on your diet and training methods, you are right to be paranoic. do not use it, it makes you sick.

 

[Mike P.T.]

Clen is bad news imo. Other better alternatives with less side effects and more long term positive effects.

 

[geoboy]

Clen is bad news imo. Other better alternatives with less side effects and more long term positive effects.

like what?

eca?
t-3?
the AF product (forgot name)?
7-keto dhea?

what is everyone's preferred method balancing cost/benefit.

sure long term diet modification w/o drugs & cardio is best, but thats not what we're doing here .

 

[poantrex]

Hypothyroidism will happen if heavily abused...but
I have seen cases of heart enlargement WITHOUT super huge doses or prolonged usage. BUT AS ALWAYS, PEOPLE WHO USE THE SHIT are in denial because they can't see what's happening to their heart.

 

[THeMaCHinE]

poantrex -- you say you have seen cases... are you in the medical field and you see this stuff first-hand? Or did you hear about it from somebody, or read studies?

You're saying there's no safe way to use this stuff at any dosage or cycling pattern?

Just trying to be clear because I do want to be informed about the potential negatives...

Do you think ephedrine and all the other stimulants are safer?

 

[ksosa]

I would like to know if you heard this first hand alos. I did a 2 week clen cycle following Big andy's Faqs and dropped 15 lbs and 2" off my waist. However I am used to stims and didn't pass 100mcg a day at my peak. I was thinking of doing it again with T3 at 12.5mcg a day. Now I am wondering if I should just do the T3 at 12.5mcg for a few weeks

 

[ceo]

I can use clen at up to 100mcg/day, and the sweating is the only side. That being said, I think I am somehow immune to tachycardia...I can take in ridiculous amounts of stimulants without experiencing a single palpitation.

tachycardia is simply a rapid HR (more than 100 beats/min.), it does not mean there are any irregularities in the heart beat(other than its fast).

 

[zoom]

KOArtist, my biggest suggestion is just to take it easy with the dosages. Start small and don't ramp-up too quickly. The half-life is about a day and a half, so when you take the same amount each day, it can surprise you by becoming stronger and stronger each day even when only taking the same amount! When you take the same amount each day, it takes six days to hit 90% of the peak strength. I think too many guys make the mistake of deciding to take more than they should on day 3 or 4.

 

[lartinos]

I've never had anything approaching clen sides.