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PA1AD or Par Deus question on inj. 4ad and 19nordiol

Pityocamptes

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I have been inject. 1cc of 4ad and 1cc of 19-nordiol (100mg/ml each) ED. I was wondering if it is possible for the PH's to "overwhelm" the enzymes in the body used for conversion. Or is their a difference between conversion when it comes to oral vs inject. (inject uses all of PH)? Basically, will the total amount be used (like AS) or is enzyme saturation possible? Also, would it be wise to stack these two PH's or should they be taken individually per cycle? I had some questions regarding this awhile back and I remember you saying that flu like symptoms would take place. Funny thing is during the first cycle 19-nordiol only, I didn't experience any flu symptoms. Now with the intro. of 4AD I thought I was going to die the first few days, but that has cleared up. Only sides at this time are heavy night sweats (few times per week). I have also heard some say that 4ad/19nordiol only increase libido, strength but no mass. I have only been on this cycle for about a week so I can't say anything regarding mass at this point. Is that true regarding no mass? Or can I expect (hopefully) to see some significant mass gains down the road? Thanks for your help.

P.S. - first time around on the 19-nordiol I gained 15 lbs in 6 weeks lost weight around mid section and became more vascular.
 
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Not flaming but lemme put it this way theres a reason why 4ad and nordiol arent on the DEA'S list because they really arent strong
 
Thanks isn man...

They do work very well (when injected). I was just trying to get some info. on conversion, etc. Hopefully one of the PH guru's can help on my previous post.
 
Once again im not flaming , All im saying is that they were reaserched as steroids and theres a reason why They werent sold or on the DEA'S list. ISN have you tried injecting? And pityo you even said 4ad is not good atadding mass
IM NOT FLAMING just stating the obvious
 
Well this is my second week and have gained 3-4 pounds. So hopefully I'll start kicking in within the next week or so. I know the 19-nordiol worked on the first cycle - 15lbs in 6weeks (not all fat and water as I had to buy new shirts and my waist got smaller and I looked more vascular). I have heard that this could be compared to deca. I know they work and like everything it takes a little time for your body to adjust.
 
MIKERAZ said:
Once again im not flaming , All im saying is that they were reaserched as steroids and theres a reason why They werent sold or on the DEA'S list.

If people could get Parabolan at Wal-Mart, you would have a legitimate point.
 
Par Deus said:


If people could get Parabolan at Wal-Mart, you would have a legitimate point.

Huh you missed my point, im saying All the andros were originally reaserched as anabolic steroids but never brought to market along with many other compounds. Now my point is almost every single steroid ever synthesized is on the DEA'S list but 4ad and other androstendiol's arent on the list , theres a reason why because there not strong.
 
MIKERAZ said:

Now my point is almost every single steroid ever synthesized is on the DEA'S list but 4ad and other androstendiol's arent on the list , theres a reason why because there not strong.

Sorry to correct you, but the 22 steroids included in the Anabolic Steroid Control Act are only a very small fraction of total number synthesized. This list is for the most part comprised of those agents that are or were at one time sold commercially.

- Bill Llewellyn
 
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