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OTC hormones and pro-hormones

RottenWillow

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Just a few brief notes on the over-the-counter (OTC) hormones I've personally used to build muscle.



Both were transdermal (topically applied) products. The first was Dermacrine, of which I used a total of 3 bottles, 2 of which were run back-to-back over a 10 week period. This is topically absorbed DHEA, which is said to effectively deliver more of this hormone to the bloodstream as it bypasses the liver. The liver ordinarily destroys a large portion of the hormone when taken orally. Below is a link to the product I used

Dermacrine - Boosting Testosterone with Topical DHEA and Pregnenolone

DHEA in my experience appears to be more androgenic than anabolic, but as it's pretty mild stuff I'm not suggesting it's very much of either. In this case I'm using the term androgenic to refer primarily to strength promoting effects and anabolic to refer to muscle building effects. DHEA is not a "pro-hormone". It is a hormone. In the doses that can be delivered transdermally by this product though, it's effects are nothing like what one might expect from a drug like Anavar.

When I used Dermacrine I noticed a prominent, sustained energy and motivation boost in the gym. I'm not talking about the kind of spike and droop you get from stuff like NoExplode and the like. I just felt very stoked during workouts, which as you might expect can lead indirectly to gains. I also documented a very substantial strength increase while using the first bottle, but that strength boost plateaued after only 5 weeks. I did not observe any gains in lean body mass.



The other product I've used is 1-T Tren, which due to tightening DEA regs is now no longer available. A similar product though is now available from the manufacturer.

1-T Liqua-Vade

1-T Tren I believe was advertised as a "pro-steroid". Can't speak to this new product, but 1-T Tren wasn't a "pro-steroid". It was a steroid. The real deal Holyfield.

I used it as recommended (for a man) on the label. I got crazy pumps and I gained about 8 pounds of lean body mass over a 10 week period. I didn't gain a huge amount of strength though, which suggests to me 1-T Tren is a far more anabolic product than Dermacrine. The bicep pumps I got were actually painful. I didn't recognize my own arms they blew up so huge. Massive pumps like that are textbook hallmarks of steroid use. The vascularity increase across my quads, delts, and upper arms was stunning.

It also appears to have permanently lowered my voice a bit. This is a real steroid. If you find any examples of this product still around on foreign sites, or choose to use any OTC legal alternatives of this caliber, beware. These products are real. They carry the same potential gains and consequences of Anavar, Winstrol, Primo, etc.


As for the new Primordial Performance alternative I linked, if it even approaches the effectiveness of 1-T Tren, it's a great, legal resource for muscle building.
 
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Nice post Willow. It is so difficult to find any information about women and prohormones. I used the dercamine as well and had about the same results as you. I got a little more daring this summer and used Beastdrol (1/2 cap twice a day for 6 weeks). The results were 8lbs of lean muscle, decent strength gains, and a slightly lower voice. I loved the gains but will probably not try beastdrol in the future.


One product that I am curious about is epistrong (epistane). Have any of the ladies out there tried it? Any information would be appreciated.

I'm just a "part-timer" here but a forum for women to post results from these "legal" steroids anonomously might receive more input. Would this be possible???

Rebecca D
 
I would be curious about the use of epistane for women too I had a female friend that without my knoledge started taking M1T after about 3 weeks quit due t othe amount of bloating and did not feel well in general while on it. once I found out I advised her to drop it alltogether, not sure how a full cycle of M1T would affect a women I don't like it at all.
 
I got blood work done and have extremely low testosterone. Any ideas of what I could use to get a boost? Thanks.


If you mean how to increase your own natural production, the only thing I know for sure that has demonstrated efficacy in increasing T production is garlic. Garlic has been shown to increase LH, which is the hormonal signal for your gonads (in our case the ovaries) to make more testosterone.

Raw garlic is the cheap way to do it, but your breath will be pretty heinous. About 5 gloves (half a bulb) eaten in divided doses throughout the day. It does work. Consistently.

The far less stinky, but equally effective way is to use freeze dried garlic. That is the only way to prepare garlic in a capsule or tablet form and totally preserve it I cannot vouch for the cheapo tablets they sell in supermarkets. I have used freeze dried garlic (Pharmax brand) I bought off the internet and it works every bit as well as the fresh kind. I still use it. I take 6-7 of the 700mg capsules a day. You can use sugar free peppermint candies to get rid of most of the residual garlic stinky breath.
 
Great post rotten, its good to hear from the women and how you like the supps out.
 
Nice post Willow. It is so difficult to find any information about women and prohormones. I used the dercamine as well and had about the same results as you. I got a little more daring this summer and used Beastdrol (1/2 cap twice a day for 6 weeks). The results were 8lbs of lean muscle, decent strength gains, and a slightly lower voice. I loved the gains but will probably not try beastdrol in the future.


One product that I am curious about is epistrong (epistane). Have any of the ladies out there tried it? Any information would be appreciated.

I'm just a "part-timer" here but a forum for women to post results from these "legal" steroids anonomously might receive more input. Would this be possible???

Rebecca D

I never advice the use of these products to woman (of course you already knew this bec) however I do talk with many woman who have used these products and the common feed back I have gotten from many woman is that epi is the product hormone of choice now. Seems to give the best results with the least sides for woman. Again this is purely going on feed back alone.

Of course I have offered to let little mis willow be a test subject lolol.. So we can all watch her log on the product.
 
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