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Optimal HGH dose for a woman
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bluetwistedsteel67
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2iu's is perfect and she'll see great results IF she is patient, diets correctly and stays on the growth long enough. She just needs to keep in mind that growth works slowly and needs to be taken 3 months minimum. The end result will be dramatic but the week to week results can be almost unnoticable.
bluetwistedsteel67 said:
Funny, she would see fantastic results if she just did this - NO drugs. Oh, and adds in some smart training.
VictorBR
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Daisy_Girl said:
>>> Funny thing is that you don't follow you own advices since you have done several var cycles
. How about you start with the smart training and the smart nutrition and drop your var intake after all ? Please ... I like you Daisy , you seem like I nice person , really , you give very good advice most of the time and you even helped me when I asked a question about var and period , ( btw- she got her period back
) .. but you keep saying this thing about no drugs all the time and this kinda smart ass reply can get really annoying ... Whenever someone asks a question about drug usage , you say : " no drugs , start with training and nutrition " .... I would not let my girl use drugs if she was a novice , I don't need anyone to tell me this . That is pretty obvious .We all know that diet and training are the key and you should only use drugs if you have enough performace and attitude . Drugs are performace enhancers , and if there is no performace , what exactly are you going to enhance ?
Good news : My girl has performace and attitude .
Victor
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VictorBR
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bluetwistedsteel67 said:
thx a lot for the reply , that is what I thought exactly . 2 iu would be very good for her . I also know that HGH works slowly I agree 100 % since I have used it 2 times . And a 3 month cycle would be optimal , but I am not sure if she will be able to do it . I think she will have stock for a 6 weeker .
Victor
VictorBR said:>>> Funny thing is that you don't follow you own advices since you have done several var cycles
Please ... I like you Daisy , you seem like I nice person , really , you give very good advice most of the time and you even helped me when I asked a question about var and period , ( btw- she got her period back
We all know that diet and training are the key and you should only use drugs if you have enough performace and attitude . Drugs are performace enhancers , and if there is no performace , what exactly are you going to enhance ?
Good news : My girl has performace and attitude .
Victor
Thing is, we don't ALL have the knowledge that diet and training are key. You might, your GF might, but not EVERYONE here does. It is NOT obvious to many people. Take some time and read though this board. You will see a HUGE amount of posts of people posting about how someone told them that Winny is a fat burner, Clen will make them drop weight fast, Var will help them get lean. Then you read that they are 29% BF and have a crappy diet. These people do NOT know that diet and training come first.
Not everyone sees drugs as a performance enhancer. Some think they are magic because someone told them that. Not everyone does research, not everyone takes the time. Part of my "job" here is to help guide people. To me, this means to help them find the right way of doing things. If they are not already eating clean and training smart - then drugs are a silly addition. You are wrong in assuming everyone here KNOWS that diet and training come first. Many do not realize that.
I sincerely apologize for making it sounds as though your GF is one of those people. That was not my intent AT ALL. I am not trying to be smart ass, not to you or anyone.
And how do you know I do not follow my own advice? I have been training for well over 10 years. I took Var for the first time about 2.5 years ago. And I have not taken any for about 6 months. I am OFF everything, for good. I have trained off drugs, then trained on drugs...and have realized that the drugs are WAY overrated. Hell, I will be the first to admit I shouldn't have taken drugs at all. Yes, I got good results on them, but you know what? All I needed was a clean diet and GOOD training - and the results would have come eventually.
I apologize for making it seem like I was ragging on you or your GF, that was not my intention. But do not EVER say I do not follow my own advice. I would not give advice here if I didn't know my head from my ass. I have been on both sides, and I do know what I am talking about.
Sassy69
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With all due respect to guys who come on here and at least ask - I think the biggest issue with the questions "what / how much can my girl take to lose weight / fat?" -- Why isn't the girl where asking the question? It's her body, it's her responsibility. I count myself among the girls who got their first exposure to the "dark side" on the advice of a guy who didnt' give me all the info or the right info that I should've gotten, and I also had no reason to think he wouldn't know this stuff. So I went out & educated myself because I couldn't rely on others.So, it wouldn't be responsible of any of us to respond to these types of questions without reiterating the need for solid diet & training because soooo many women are looking for a quickie fix. So given the very common experience of getting that question, we generally are going to throw in that caveat.
I couldn't give higher marks for solid knowledge, education AND experinece to Daisy.
I couldn't give higher marks for solid knowledge, education AND experinece to Daisy.
VictorBR
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OK girls , what a mess .
Daisy - First of all , I do accept your apologies , it is all good . I only said that you don't follow your own advices because you TELL everyone to NOT use drugs and you use them yourself . So , you kinda contradict yourself . Even if you didn't use for the last 6 months , you still used it and used it tons of times . But anyway , that is not the question or the point here.
My point is just one . I think that before throwing your very basic line : " training and diet are the key , forget about drugs " You should ask before if you are talking to a novice or an experienced bodybuilder . I do KNOW that a LOT of people is dumb and they think drugs are magic , they don't know how to eat or train , they are 30 % bodyfat , they started to lift yesterday and they think that if they use winstroll for 6 weeks they will achieve an awesome body . I know that we have tons of people here like that , as I have been here for quite some time .., but like I said, NOT EVERYONE here is like that , and before you come to a conclusion like that , you gotta ask BEFORE .
When you say something like that , it is like you say in an indirect way : " you stupid retard , learn how to train and eat first , then you can think about drugs " ...
It looks like you are talking to some dumb idiot who started to lift weights yesterday and thinks AAS is magic , but IT MIGHT , OR IT MIGHT NOT BE the case . You may be talking to someone experienced. And when you say that he /she gotta learn how to eat and train ......well ....you got the picture ....
Imagine this situation , ( of course it would never happen ) but just for an example :
Ronnie Coleman comes in here and register with a different name then he asks a question about turanabol ( or any other steroid that was just released ) , he asks : " Hey , how are the results with turanabol , I am looking to use on my next cycle "
Then you come and say to him : " Check your diet and training , then you can think about drugs "
See my point ?
You gotta ask before throwing this at some people , because you may be throwing it at the wrong people . But it is all good ..... I just said all that because I have seen you doing this tons of times without even knowing if you are talking to a novice or experienced bodybuilder ...
Well , in your defense , since you are a moderator , and you gotta spend tons of hours a day here , I do agree that dumb people can get really annoying , and sometimes it may be easier to just assume that everyone is dumb . LOL , Anyway , like I said before , it doesn't hurt to ask
OH and BTW SASSY - My girl doesn't speak english very well , so that is why I am asking for her .
Victor
Daisy - First of all , I do accept your apologies , it is all good . I only said that you don't follow your own advices because you TELL everyone to NOT use drugs and you use them yourself . So , you kinda contradict yourself . Even if you didn't use for the last 6 months , you still used it and used it tons of times . But anyway , that is not the question or the point here.
My point is just one . I think that before throwing your very basic line : " training and diet are the key , forget about drugs " You should ask before if you are talking to a novice or an experienced bodybuilder . I do KNOW that a LOT of people is dumb and they think drugs are magic , they don't know how to eat or train , they are 30 % bodyfat , they started to lift yesterday and they think that if they use winstroll for 6 weeks they will achieve an awesome body . I know that we have tons of people here like that , as I have been here for quite some time .., but like I said, NOT EVERYONE here is like that , and before you come to a conclusion like that , you gotta ask BEFORE .
When you say something like that , it is like you say in an indirect way : " you stupid retard , learn how to train and eat first , then you can think about drugs " ...
It looks like you are talking to some dumb idiot who started to lift weights yesterday and thinks AAS is magic , but IT MIGHT , OR IT MIGHT NOT BE the case . You may be talking to someone experienced. And when you say that he /she gotta learn how to eat and train ......well ....you got the picture ....
Imagine this situation , ( of course it would never happen ) but just for an example :
Ronnie Coleman comes in here and register with a different name then he asks a question about turanabol ( or any other steroid that was just released ) , he asks : " Hey , how are the results with turanabol , I am looking to use on my next cycle "
Then you come and say to him : " Check your diet and training , then you can think about drugs "
See my point ?
You gotta ask before throwing this at some people , because you may be throwing it at the wrong people . But it is all good ..... I just said all that because I have seen you doing this tons of times without even knowing if you are talking to a novice or experienced bodybuilder ...
Well , in your defense , since you are a moderator , and you gotta spend tons of hours a day here , I do agree that dumb people can get really annoying , and sometimes it may be easier to just assume that everyone is dumb . LOL , Anyway , like I said before , it doesn't hurt to ask
OH and BTW SASSY - My girl doesn't speak english very well , so that is why I am asking for her .
Victor
Not to add to this, because I think it has been played out, BUT...
Like Sassy said, it would be irresponsible of us to NOT state diet and training first, then drugs.
This is a perfect example of why it is SO important that people give DETAILS about themselves when asking questions. NOBODY can give useful info to someone without knowing details.
In defense of myself, not that it is needed, but it is NOT contradictory of me to state "don't use drugs". Within this statement, I usually state that diet and training need to be spot on BEFORE drugs are used. Get diet and training down before drugs are introduced - that is what I say 99% of the time. Additionally, 99% of the people here can reach their goals WITHOUT drugs. People just don't have the patience.
Additionally, there is NO reason in the world why ANYONE should try drugs before seeing what they can accomplish naturally. I would never, ever tell someone new to training or dieting to try drugs to reach their goals - regardless of MY drug use. My use is not relevant, since my goals and my history is different than theirs.
Like Sassy said, it would be irresponsible of us to NOT state diet and training first, then drugs.
This is a perfect example of why it is SO important that people give DETAILS about themselves when asking questions. NOBODY can give useful info to someone without knowing details.
In defense of myself, not that it is needed, but it is NOT contradictory of me to state "don't use drugs". Within this statement, I usually state that diet and training need to be spot on BEFORE drugs are used. Get diet and training down before drugs are introduced - that is what I say 99% of the time. Additionally, 99% of the people here can reach their goals WITHOUT drugs. People just don't have the patience.
Additionally, there is NO reason in the world why ANYONE should try drugs before seeing what they can accomplish naturally. I would never, ever tell someone new to training or dieting to try drugs to reach their goals - regardless of MY drug use. My use is not relevant, since my goals and my history is different than theirs.
Sassy69
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There are two things that make the women's board a unique place to operate in - 1) Usually its guys asking for their girlfriends who are looking for a magic pill to lose weight and 2) AS affects women much more significantly than men and what men know about anabolics doesnt' necessarily translate directly to women. THAT is why anyone responding to any drug questions on the women's board at some point will reiterate the need for being on top of diet & training FIRST. Additionally, I think steroids are more acceptable & more readily available to men and therefore men feel they are an equivalent solution for their girlfriend's fat issues.
Often we will be asking for more detail about the person in question, but sometimes it doesn't come out in those words. When someone comes on here & asks a question like that without any context, we can't assume anything, so answers may come across as "smart ass". However they are intended specifically to highlight the importance of diet & training. The fact that the people here who do respond like Daisy are the MODS, implies that they hae demonstrated an understanding, an experience and an ability to communicate that as they are able to.
Often we will be asking for more detail about the person in question, but sometimes it doesn't come out in those words. When someone comes on here & asks a question like that without any context, we can't assume anything, so answers may come across as "smart ass". However they are intended specifically to highlight the importance of diet & training. The fact that the people here who do respond like Daisy are the MODS, implies that they hae demonstrated an understanding, an experience and an ability to communicate that as they are able to.
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