Open Season on Disabled, Gays and Opposite sex.. Feel free to Hate them all

[HappyScrappy]

I'd be curious what else was on the bill, if anything.

they are notorious for trying to submarine really sleazy shit into bills that have things like this - and then when it doesn't go through, pass off this part to the press and they go wild saying how wrong it is and totally over look the fact that the sleazy shit was blocked, which is good.

not saying that is the case here - just curious.

 

[Lao Tzu]

who the fuck commits hate crimes against disabled people? I must have missed that boat.

 

[HappyScrappy]

who the fuck commits hate crimes against disabled people? I must have missed that boat.

they put up less of a fight.

what about the guy in Rochester that got the chick in a coma pregnant? now that is classy.

 

[Lao Tzu]

they put up less of a fight.

what about the guy in Rochester that got the chick in a coma pregnant? now that is classy.

hmmmm. I don't know about that. thats not really a hate crime, that is forbidden love. I am ok with stuff like that.

 

[CAGED whiteman]

good, as long as the gays stay in the closet then they shouldnt have any troubles with hate crimes.

 

[musclebrains]

If the law already provides protection for people of color and Christians, why should it not be extended to women and gay people?

In any case, there are separate hate crimes statutes in many states that already do cover gender and sexual orientation. Big surprise that Dubya's gubmint is lagging the states. Maybe Ashcroft will try to overturn states' hate crime provisions the way he tried to overturn state-sanctioned assisted death.

 

[Y_lifter]

Yes MB, the State's laws were referenced as the way to go vs new Federal ones.


As far as extending the current federal law they said "where would it end. people with blue eyes vs brown" etc etc..

The full article at rueters was interesting and the porponents said they would submit it again as part of a National Defense Bill coming up...

 

[cockdezl]

I hate people who support "hate crime" legislation. I guess I will be getting a knock on my door from Uncle Sam.

 

[Lao Tzu]

If the law already provides protection for people of color and Christians, why should it not be extended to women and gay people?

why are those things good? why should a crime have 2x the penalty just because it violates the status quo? a crimes punishment should be proportional to the suffering it inflicts on the innocent. You also have to take into account that the 'burden of proof' that something was really a hate crime isn't much.

Who commits hate crimes against women, or handicapped people? i must be missing something.

why is hate crime legislation necessary to protect gays? assault & battery is still assault & battery, either with or without hate crime legislation.