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68GT350
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I wonder if any of those ticket writing assholes actually bust real criminals which actually serve as some sort of danger to society instead of writing up tax paying citizens who have a "glitch" in their DMV records/papers. I've gotten pulled over for stupid shit like expired plates, broken tail lights, and missing documents (I forgot my wallet with my license at home). Why the fuck would you charge someone for having a broken tail light? Do you think the person did it on purpose? The real criminals wear a god damned badge.
Traffic enforcement is mainly about revenue enhancement, not safety. Not to say that some cops don't try their best to reduce DUIs, but their orders have more to do with whatever generates the most ticket revenue with the least hassle (DUIs are expensive, but generate a lot of work for the government.)
Several years ago, one state...I think it was Vermont, but I'm not sure...experimented with having the state police concentrate more on ticketing right-of-way violations - that is, just bad driving - rather than speed violations. The accident rate dropped, but then the Feds threatened to cut off their highway funds for not properly enforcing the (then) 55-mph speed limit. So they went back to concentrating on speed enforcement, and the accident rate went back up.
Makes sense, right?
Several years ago, one state...I think it was Vermont, but I'm not sure...experimented with having the state police concentrate more on ticketing right-of-way violations - that is, just bad driving - rather than speed violations. The accident rate dropped, but then the Feds threatened to cut off their highway funds for not properly enforcing the (then) 55-mph speed limit. So they went back to concentrating on speed enforcement, and the accident rate went back up.
Makes sense, right?
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madbomber31
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just be glad you didnt have a 14 year old with you....
and by the way, it's people like you who dont get their tabs that cause the roads to not get fixed...
thats what some cop said to me once.. i was fuckin livid... but hey, fact of the matter is you did something illegal, it sucks but it's true.
and by the way, it's people like you who dont get their tabs that cause the roads to not get fixed...
thats what some cop said to me once.. i was fuckin livid... but hey, fact of the matter is you did something illegal, it sucks but it's true.
Testosterone boy
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In Germany, they go after tail gaters instead of speeders. That actually reduces accidents of course.
Our system is very American. It is all about money. Are you surprised?
Our system is very American. It is all about money. Are you surprised?
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solidj55
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Your stupid.
You broke a traffic law, even though its a little law compared to drunk driving, reckless driving, etc its still a law. Dont be mad at someone who is doing there job, be mad at the cop thats in Subway eating instead of working or the cop that is at the local Krispy Kream or 7 Eleven drinking coffee and eating. And yes I am a cop.
You broke a traffic law, even though its a little law compared to drunk driving, reckless driving, etc its still a law. Dont be mad at someone who is doing there job, be mad at the cop thats in Subway eating instead of working or the cop that is at the local Krispy Kream or 7 Eleven drinking coffee and eating. And yes I am a cop.
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Citruscide
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solidj55 said:
Stupid? How can you call someone stupid for this? Perhaps lazy or a procrastinator... but stupid? I don's see a correlation between intelligence and failure to renew one's tags...
That being said, I've gotten a ticket for "running a red light" before... I was clearly in the intersection while the light was yellow... then it turned red as I was driving through (in the middle)... cop pulls be over for that shit... it is all about the money... I was just the sucker who was driving through at the time.
C-ditty
Testosterone boy
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I could say that an employees job is to do what the employer asks or forces them to do. Cops are not involved in decisions on how to spend their time. Same thing with soldiers.
While I get mad over tickets and 1/2 of them are bullshit...it isn't necessarily the cops fault.
The windows and doors of my van prevent me from really seeing flashing lightswhen they are close. So they are really pissed when I finally see them and pull over. Is that my fault?
Imperfect world i would say.
While I get mad over tickets and 1/2 of them are bullshit...it isn't necessarily the cops fault.
The windows and doors of my van prevent me from really seeing flashing lightswhen they are close. So they are really pissed when I finally see them and pull over. Is that my fault?
Imperfect world i would say.
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solidj55
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Ok he is not stupid but his statement that he hates cops for doing there job is stupid.
I didnt say all cops were cool and just doing there job but not all of them are dick heads. Its all to do with the person doing the job at the time, not the job itself.
I dont write speeding tickets or patrol for traffic violations. I am a county police officer that works in the jail. I deal with the worst of the worst on a daily basis and I can say this, if a cop is a dick head at some point it is more than likely because he is fed up with idiots/assholes. Try not to take it personal. I am not advocating this because no matter how stressed you are you shouldnt be a dick head to someone undeserving it. People should give Us a break(those that arent dick heads for no reason)
We arent here just to fuck with people, we have a job to do and most of us just try to do just that. We are all underpayed, understaffed, and over worked.
Getting mad at a police officer for giving you a ticket when you know you were wrong is like getting mad at the power company for sending you a bill when you know you used it to run the computer, tv, heat, lights, stove, etc.
I didnt say all cops were cool and just doing there job but not all of them are dick heads. Its all to do with the person doing the job at the time, not the job itself.
I dont write speeding tickets or patrol for traffic violations. I am a county police officer that works in the jail. I deal with the worst of the worst on a daily basis and I can say this, if a cop is a dick head at some point it is more than likely because he is fed up with idiots/assholes. Try not to take it personal. I am not advocating this because no matter how stressed you are you shouldnt be a dick head to someone undeserving it. People should give Us a break(those that arent dick heads for no reason)
We arent here just to fuck with people, we have a job to do and most of us just try to do just that. We are all underpayed, understaffed, and over worked.
Getting mad at a police officer for giving you a ticket when you know you were wrong is like getting mad at the power company for sending you a bill when you know you used it to run the computer, tv, heat, lights, stove, etc.
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solidj55
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No we do not get a percent of the money from ANY ticket that is written. MOST of us are payed by salary with some sort of overtime pay(sometimes) or comp time(getting more days off for working overtime). As far as the quota, well my department doesnt have one but I have heard a few departments that do. That is mostly a myth today but there are a few random depts. that still have a quota.
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Citruscide
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manny78 said:
Yeah, if police here got a % of the tickets then we'd probably have alot more of them.
I believe they have quotas. At least from various officers I have talked to... hence at the end of the month sometimes you see more and more people getting pulled over.
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solidj55
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Citruscide said:
Yeah, if police here got a % of the tickets then we'd probably have alot more of them.
I believe they have quotas. At least from various officers I have talked to... hence at the end of the month sometimes you see more and more people getting pulled over.
C-ditty
Like I said, some depts do have quotas but not all of them.
1) You were driving around with a sign stuck on your car, telling anyone who noticed that you were violating the law.
2) The reason that expired tags draw attention so fast is because they could point to bigger issues. Lack of insurance, or that the car was stolen and the tags were switched.
On top of that, this is New years eve, at 3:30, a time when the police are going to be on very high alert looking for anything suspicious that might get a drunk driver off the road.
2) The reason that expired tags draw attention so fast is because they could point to bigger issues. Lack of insurance, or that the car was stolen and the tags were switched.
On top of that, this is New years eve, at 3:30, a time when the police are going to be on very high alert looking for anything suspicious that might get a drunk driver off the road.
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the quata thing is just used to see if officers are out doing stuff. For something like expired tags on new years they could have given the guy a warning. This warning gets written up and helps the officer show that he was doing something and the guy will probbly go re-new his tags very soon.
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Citruscide
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Puc said:
I agree with you on a bit of what you are saying... as the point NYE is to stop drunk drivers... IMO...
In Chicago, if you don't have an up to date sticker on your plate, it's an automatic ticket... just something they do... although, when I couldn't provide proof of insurance, they let me go with a warning (as I had Indiana plates... and they can't ticket you in another state... )
Bottom line is... if your tag is expired, you should probably get a new one... but if had recently expired... it might have been hard to get one with the holidays and the officer should have considered that.
I don't think that having expired tags is "breaking the law" -- more like an infraction... breaking the law would be stealing a car..
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KAYNE
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PERSONALLY, I THINK YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE. WE DO HOWEVER, SEE EYE TO EYE ON THIS ISSUE.
KAYNE
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Citruscide said:
Here's my take on the subject.... IMO he DID break the law... Sure, it's not murder or anything, but still a law. Also, police officers are not bound to give you a break just because it's New Year's Eve... It could've been worse, I don't know what your state laws are , but I know in my state that if you are caught driving on expired tags, you are essentially driving an unregistered motor vehicle and the police can have your car towed/impounded, and tell you to find a ride home... If you're looking at it from that point of view, he gave you a break by allowing you to drive home at all.
Also, just think of it this way, it's NYE, and at least where I am it was freezing cold and freezing rain. If I'm that cop and I notice your expired ass and I have to get out of my nice warm cruiser in the freezing rain to check if your ass is drunk, you can BET that you're at LEAST getting a ticket, just for being stupid enough to drive around in an unregistered car at 3:30 am on NYE when you KNOW cops are looking for anything abnormal. Don't get mad at the cop because you're too fucking lazy to reregister your car in time...
Moreover, if your attitude with him had even the remotest hint of contempt, that certianly wouldn't help your cause, and judging from the title of this post, even if you didn't mean to, you probably displayed a little attitude with him.
What's the moral of the story??? If you have a car that's got expired tags because you're too lazy to register it, don't drive it... Puc, don't you have more than one vehicle??? You can get pissed at the cop all you want, but bottom line, it's YOUR OWN FAULT for not registering your car in time....
Ffactor
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Just out of curiosity, how long have they been expired for? I'm in the same situation. I have two outstanding parking tickets and they won't allow me to renew my registration because of that! So, I'm going to court! Screw them. I live in Baltimore where the murder rate has gone up including vandalism, robbery, muggings.... having additional police on the streets have had no impact whatsoever! I can't imagine that they would take away a basic civil right such as driving because of two outstanding parking tickets.
Lumberg
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bigguns beat me to it.
Pulling people over for seemingly minor offenses is like casting a net. Every now and then you net a bad guy or a stolen car or whatever. An added benefit is the revenue from the tickets.
I have been pulled over for a burned out tail light and let go because I showed proper sobriety and documentation.
I agree, cops suck a lot. If you hate what happened, hate your state lawmakers or the police chief who passed down the orders on what to do. The cop is just a pawn in the game like you and me.
JC
Pulling people over for seemingly minor offenses is like casting a net. Every now and then you net a bad guy or a stolen car or whatever. An added benefit is the revenue from the tickets.
I have been pulled over for a burned out tail light and let go because I showed proper sobriety and documentation.
I agree, cops suck a lot. If you hate what happened, hate your state lawmakers or the police chief who passed down the orders on what to do. The cop is just a pawn in the game like you and me.
JC
Ffactor said:
Just a quick point... In every state I have ever lived in, driving is NEVER a right... Driving is a privilege, a privilege that CAN be denied to you by the authorities if you break motor vehicle related laws. i.e. not paying parking tickets... I don't know what law book you're reading, but driving is not listed under civil rights... Like I said, it's not a right at all... Do yourself a favor, two parking tickets??? what's that, 30 bucks??? Pay it, renew your license and you'll be all set... Odds are, if you go to court, you're going to have to pay the tickets anyways, and if you go into a traffic court talking about how driving is a right, the judge might make you pay court costs too, after he laughs at you and sternly explains that driving is a privilege that the state is entitled to take from you...
Ffactor said:
If it were a RIGHT, you would not need a license to do it... As with any other license, whether it be a business, building, liquor, any type of license, it has a set of rules attached to keeping the PRIVILEGE of holding that license. If you break the rules/laws, they can and WILL suspend or even revoke said license. I'm not saying they can do it for no reason, but if you don't go by the rules, they can take it away.... I'm telling you, any judge will tell you, driving is NOT a right, it is a privilege, that's the way I meant it...
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FLASHMAN1 said:
I see your point but I think there should be some exceptions. I understand taking away driving priviliges if you are DWI, driving without insurance, driving with faulty equipment that might cause harm to other motorists or reckless driving. I can't justify making people go through all this hassle for a parking ticket.
Fast Twitch Fiber
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Take your ticket to court (make sure to renew your tags first and bring proof that they are renewed) I've had three tickets for expired tags dismissed by a judge. I entered a not guilty plea and he asked me if I had renewed my tags. I said yes and he asked to see my registration card. I showed it to him and he dropped the charges. There's also the possibility that the cop won't show up for court in which case you win by default.
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