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One program for the rest of your life

What pre-packaged program would you choose for the rest of your life?

  • 5/3/1 by Jim Wendler

    Votes: 10 34.5%
  • 5x5 Madcow Version

    Votes: 11 37.9%
  • Starting Strength by Rippetoe

    Votes: 3 10.3%
  • P90X by Infomercial Douchebag

    Votes: 5 17.2%

  • Total voters
    29

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Assuming you had to pick one pre-packaged, prescribed program for the rest of your life what one would it be?

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I am with SaiBoT on this...I would never do single routine...Fuck...I've been following the concept of using templates for the last 18+ months now.

I don't do routines. I train. Plain and simple.

Therefore, if I absolutely HAD to choose from the above plethora of awesome routines (yes, sarcasm), I'd go with 5/3/1 because it makes the most sense in comparison to the choices you've listed.
 
Single best prepackaged routine I've ever used is neeto's. Great at building muscle, and that's always been my top priority.
 
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If forced to pick from the list,.... 5/3/1 for sure. There are so many variations on this program. You could make gains indefinitely if boredom wasn't an issue.
 
Then what one?

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One program for the rest of my life i would have to go with something like omega created, it works different energy systems and if you choose to throw in some strengh peaking it will work really well. Plus looking to the safe and fun side it surely is up there.
 
Just to be clear, this poll is meant to only look at the off the shelf training programs. We all know that there are many who can develop a program that fits their needs in a much more tailored fashion.

I also picked these, because they seem to be the ones that are the most widely known, or at least heard of.

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5/3/1 because you can choose differant assistance exercises and so I wouldnt get so bored of it, the progress is a little too slow for my liking though...
 
needto's program
 
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5/3/1 because you can choose differant assistance exercises and so I wouldnt get so bored of it, the progress is a little too slow for my liking though...

Interesting you should say that about the progress. The progress comes from what 1RM you bring to the table. SO it is entirely dependent on you.

Also, don't forget that when you are doing the prescribed routine, the last set of any of the exercises allow you to crank out as many of them as you can, but at least doing the minimum required. So you get to control your volume to a certain extent. And we all know that volume pays a crucial role in getting your 1RM up.

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Interesting you should say that about the progress. The progress comes from what 1RM you bring to the table. SO it is entirely dependent on you.

Also, don't forget that when you are doing the prescribed routine, the last set of any of the exercises allow you to crank out as many of them as you can, but at least doing the minimum required. So you get to control your volume to a certain extent. And we all know that volume pays a crucial role in getting your 1RM up.

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what I mean is each week on the 5/3/1 you add 5lbs but drop 2 reps, where as I can often add 5lbs and keep the reps the same, but I forgot about the max rep thing at the end.

either way 5/3/1 would be my choice if I had to do one of those on the poll for the rest of my life
 
I agree with EM...5/3/1 is too slow progress for my liking. And it's also working with sub-par weights for 2 of 4 weeks which is kinda boring for me lol...
 
Excuse me , sir, but DC was not one fo those listed. You must vote only on those listed.

Is there an "other" option?

No.

So, sir, please vote on one of the above options or I will put chans on your head and feet and squat you.

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DC training....all the above are a no go for me
 
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what I mean is each week on the 5/3/1 you add 5lbs but drop 2 reps, where as I can often add 5lbs and keep the reps the same, but I forgot about the max rep thing at the end.

either way 5/3/1 would be my choice if I had to do one of those on the poll for the rest of my life


Add 5 lbs and drop 2 reps? What program is this on? I did box squats with 662 x 5 and the next week was with 692 x 3 and this week will be with 732 x 1. Where do you get 5 lbs from?

I think that even with an "off the shelf program" you have to have the intelligence to know how to adapt it to fit your individual needs. I've found that some of the restrictions set by the 5/3/1 limit me and yet sometimes the extra reps and accessory volume over train me as well.
 
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Add 5 lbs and drop 2 reps? What program is this on? I did box squats with 662 x 5 and the next week was with 692 x 3 and this week will be with 732 x 1. Where do you get 5 lbs from?

I think that even with an "off the shelf program" you have to have the intelligence to know how to adapt it to fit your individual needs. I've found that some of the restrictions set by the 5/3/1 limit me and yet sometimes the extra reps and accessory volume over train me as well.

your right, i dont know why i put 5lbs, I meant 5%

and especially when your lifts are quite low, 5% isnt that much. For example the past 5 weeks (or it may be 4 I would have to check my log) I have added 15kg or 33lbs to my 5 rep sets of deadlifts, when I started I was doing 253x5 and by the end of those weeks I was at 298. Using 5/3/1 I would have added considerable less than that.

Also for 3-4 weeks before I switched to pause reps for my competition I added 15lbs a month to my 3rm benchpress consistently without a single deload. Again with the 5/3/1 I wouldnt have done that, yes I would have hit some rep PR's but the increase would have been lower than that.

The fact that I can increase my lifts like that is the reason I dont do the 5/3/1... well not at the moment anyway
 
your right, i dont know why i put 5lbs, I meant 5%

and especially when your lifts are quite low, 5% isnt that much. For example the past 5 weeks (or it may be 4 I would have to check my log) I have added 15kg or 33lbs to my 5 rep sets of deadlifts, when I started I was doing 253x5 and by the end of those weeks I was at 298. Using 5/3/1 I would have added considerable less than that.

Also for 3-4 weeks before I switched to pause reps for my competition I added 15lbs a month to my 3rm benchpress consistently without a single deload. Again with the 5/3/1 I wouldnt have done that, yes I would have hit some rep PR's but the increase would have been lower than that.

The fact that I can increase my lifts like that is the reason I dont do the 5/3/1... well not at the moment anyway

You mean YOU wouldn't have had THAT weight on the bar for THAT amount of reps...right?

What you did NOT see is that you would HAVE STILL GOTTEN STRONGER!

3 reps, 5 reps, 8 reps, 10 reps...all of them get you stronger. As the man who wrote and programmed the 5/3/1 Program said...it doesn't matter...just base your program around the squat, bench, deadlift, overhead press and train them hard. You will get stronger.
 
You mean YOU wouldn't have had THAT weight on the bar for THAT amount of reps...right?

What you did NOT see is that you would HAVE STILL GOTTEN STRONGER!

3 reps, 5 reps, 8 reps, 10 reps...all of them get you stronger. As the man who wrote and programmed the 5/3/1 Program said...it doesn't matter...just base your program around the squat, bench, deadlift, overhead press and train them hard. You will get stronger.
and that is what i do, I pretty much do the 5/3/1 exactly as it is except without the percentages, I just work up to a 1, 3, 5 or 8 rep PR in the big lifts then hit 3-4 assistance exercises. I also do more ab work than is prescribed but less often, I do calf work once every 5 days which isnt in the program and I train my grip once a week which also isnt in the program. My training is based on the 5/3/1 but I adapted it to suit me better and it is working very well. Iv been doing it for around 5 months now, only changes I have made are a couple of assistance exercises I have swapped around or changed.
 
Same here!

I know, Im subscribed to you on youtube :D Ill send you a friend request if you like... or have I already done that, my username is EliteExtra. I love the 5/3/1 template!

my main differance is I do a little more assistance work than is prescribed and I dont use percentages, I work up to a 1,3,5 or 8 rep PR. I feel I can recover from all of the assistance work maybe because of my age, either way I manage to hit PR's on pretty much every lift I do every day, including assistance stuff and even calf work...
 
I spend a lot of my time on FaceBook these days. Requires no brain work and I can stay in touch with my family overseas.
 
One program for the rest of my life i would have to go with something like omega created, it works different energy systems and if you choose to throw in some strengh peaking it will work really well. Plus looking to the safe and fun side it surely is up there.

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Yes sir fuck all that other bs :D

Fuck "standard bodybuilding splits". Those are the real BS!

You must believe and follow whatever the newest and best training split of the month is in Flex or M&F, huh?
 
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