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It is Fathers day NOT husband DAY
Do something for your Dad not your husband, that is your kids' job.
Do something for your Dad not your husband, that is your kids' job.
On Fathers day just remember 1 thing OK
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lolololololoooooooooooooooooolllllllllllllllllo
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And a woman can't do something for both? Or does she do disservice to her father by honoring the man that she chose to father HER children?
Odd, I thought her husband was the man she chose to father HER children. For a woman her children should be that which is most precious in life, so it would stand to reason that she would honor the man SHE CHOSE for the privilige of fathering her children.
Or maybe it's just crazy me.
Odd, I thought her husband was the man she chose to father HER children. For a woman her children should be that which is most precious in life, so it would stand to reason that she would honor the man SHE CHOSE for the privilige of fathering her children.
Or maybe it's just crazy me.
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I am sure I will get a lovely card with "xoxoxox" all over it from my little girl 
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BIKINIMOM said:And a woman can't do something for both? Or does she do disservice to her father by honoring the man that she chose to father HER children?
Odd, I thought her husband was the man she chose to father HER children. For a woman her children should be that which is most precious in life, so it would stand to reason that she would honor the man SHE CHOSE for the privilige of fathering her children.
Or maybe it's just crazy me.
Tell me you're joking!
Tell me you knew the mothers day thing AND this one was ONLY ever made JUST to fuck with YOU
I thought you knew all along but then sometimes I think well maybe she is that stunned
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I am not looking forward to this day at all!!
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heavy_duty said:
LOL As IF I didn't know.
You didn't fuck with me at all...
Jokes on you darlin.
Just as in that thread, you sorta exposed your true feelings.
Either way you made YOUR point of view abundantly clear, as I have made mine.
From my vantage point, I am lookin pretty fuckin awesome.
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Beachboy6294 said:
Trust me when I tell you that I know how much you hurt. My husband tried both years to make me feel better, but of course, it didn't work so I won't blow sunshine up your asshole by telling you to distract yourself as if that will ease your pain. It will STILL HURT.
So just be safe. Don't do anything fukkin dumb like drinking and driving or the like.
If you want to stay home alone all day and drink until you cry yourself to sleep then do that, but know that once THAT day is over you will have the rest of your days that will bring you ONE DAY CLOSER to the day when you will be with your girls.
That is what I have been telling my children for FIVE YEARS... that each day we are parted brings us one day closer to the day when NO ONE WILL EVER BE ABLE TO PART US AGAIN...
If ANYONE understands.. it is me.
*hugs*
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Another thing I have told my girls a million times when they called me/texted me at 2/3AM... I can't sleep, I keep crying, I'm scared, I miss you, etc. I would tell them, "Hurry up and close your eyes so that we can be together in our dreams."
.... and then I would hurry to sleep too so as not to miss them in the dream.
.... and then I would hurry to sleep too so as not to miss them in the dream.
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Thanks BM and I know nobody can tell me anything to make me feel better it's just going to be a tough day. I've been really down for a week now and watching video's I have with them laughing and sheading a few tears. I was reading my blog from last year of how happy I was to have them back in my life after the court battle and here I am again in the same boat. I'll share my blog and how I felt last year.
MY FEELING'S ON FATHER'S DAY!!
WELL I ALWAYS HATED THIS DAY SINCE MY FATHER WAS NEVER THERE FOR ME!! NOW THAT I HAVE TWO BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTERS THAT ARE COOKING ME BREAKFAST THIS MORNING AND WOKE ME UP WITH HUGGS AND KISSES AND A PRESENT I'M REALLY LOVING IT!! MY GOAL IN LIFE WAS ALWAYS TO BE EVERYTHING AS A DAD THAT MINE WASN'T TO ME AND MORE! WHEN I DIE I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I OWNED OR HOW MUCH MONEY I WAS WORTH BUT INSTEAD I WANT THEM TO SAY "HE WAS THE GREATEST FATHER AND PERSON THAT WOULD GIVE THE SHIRT OFF HIS BACK TO HELP A FRIEND OR SOMEONE IN NEED!!!
FOR THE REST OF YOU THAT MAY HAVE BEEN IN THE SAME SITUATION AS ME JUST CHANGE IT WITH YOUR KIDS SO YOU CAN CHANGE IT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS!!
FOR MY FRIENDS THAT HAVE LOST THEIR FATHERS AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT MAY READ THIS I'M SORRY HE ISN'T HERE IN PERSON WITH YOU TODAY BUT SPIRITUALLY HE'S WITH YOU SO CELEBRATE THE DAY FOR HIM AND BE HAPPY AND REMEMBER THE LIL THINGS THAT YOU DID TOGETHER!
I KNOW THIS IS LONG AND SOME OF YOU COULD CARE LESS BUT THIS MEANS MUCH TO ME AND FOR MY FRIENDS THAT CARE TO READ THIS AND UNDERSTAND, " I LOVE YOU" AND "HAPPY FATHERS DAY"!!!
I HAVE FOUGHT THROUGH COURT FOR THE RIGHT TO BE IN MY DAUGHTERS LIVES AND FOR THEM TO GROW UP KNOWING THAT THEY HAVE A DAD THAT LOVES THEM AND IS THEIR FOR THEM NO MATTER WHAT!! SOME FATHERS TAKE OUT THEIR ANGER FOR THEIR EX ON THEIR KIDS BY NOT PAYING CHILD SUPPORT OR BEING IN THEIR LIVES! I PAY MORE THAN I WAS ORDERED TOO AND ALL I ASKED FOR WAS TO HAVE MY SET WEEKENDS, HOLIDAYS, AND VACATIONS WITH THEM EVERY YEAR! BOYS AND ESPECIALLY GIRLS NEED THEIR FATHERS IN THEIR LIVES TO SHOW THEM THAT THEY ARE LOVED AND TO TELL THEM IT EVERYDAY AND TO LET THEM KNOW THT THEY CAN BECOME ANYTHING IN THEIR LIVES THAT THEY WANT TO BE WITH HARD WORK AND THE SUPPORT OF THEIR FAMILY. SO HAPPY FATHERS DAY TO ALL OF YOU FATHERS AND IF YOUR NOT INVOLVED IN YOUR KIDS LIVES START TRYING TO CHANGE THAT ASAP!! I STILL TO THIS DAY CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW MY FATHER IF HE DESERVES TO EVEN BE CALLED THAT HAS SPENT HIS LIFE NOT CARING TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ME AND MY BROTHER OR HIS 3 GRANDKIDS!! INSTEAD HE IS A SELFISH MAN THAT JUST CARES ABOUT ALL HIS MONEY AND EVERYTHING HE OWNS OUT IN CALI!! HE CAN HAVE ALL THAT BECAUSE HE HAS MISSED OUT ON SOMETHING WAY MORE THAN MONEY AND THATS THE FEELING OF LOVE THAT I HAVE FOR MY LIL GIRLS AND THE WAY THEY LOOK AT AND LOVE ME! PEACE AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!
MY FEELING'S ON FATHER'S DAY!!
WELL I ALWAYS HATED THIS DAY SINCE MY FATHER WAS NEVER THERE FOR ME!! NOW THAT I HAVE TWO BEAUTIFUL DAUGHTERS THAT ARE COOKING ME BREAKFAST THIS MORNING AND WOKE ME UP WITH HUGGS AND KISSES AND A PRESENT I'M REALLY LOVING IT!! MY GOAL IN LIFE WAS ALWAYS TO BE EVERYTHING AS A DAD THAT MINE WASN'T TO ME AND MORE! WHEN I DIE I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I OWNED OR HOW MUCH MONEY I WAS WORTH BUT INSTEAD I WANT THEM TO SAY "HE WAS THE GREATEST FATHER AND PERSON THAT WOULD GIVE THE SHIRT OFF HIS BACK TO HELP A FRIEND OR SOMEONE IN NEED!!!
FOR THE REST OF YOU THAT MAY HAVE BEEN IN THE SAME SITUATION AS ME JUST CHANGE IT WITH YOUR KIDS SO YOU CAN CHANGE IT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS!!
FOR MY FRIENDS THAT HAVE LOST THEIR FATHERS AND EVERYONE ELSE THAT MAY READ THIS I'M SORRY HE ISN'T HERE IN PERSON WITH YOU TODAY BUT SPIRITUALLY HE'S WITH YOU SO CELEBRATE THE DAY FOR HIM AND BE HAPPY AND REMEMBER THE LIL THINGS THAT YOU DID TOGETHER!
I KNOW THIS IS LONG AND SOME OF YOU COULD CARE LESS BUT THIS MEANS MUCH TO ME AND FOR MY FRIENDS THAT CARE TO READ THIS AND UNDERSTAND, " I LOVE YOU" AND "HAPPY FATHERS DAY"!!!
I HAVE FOUGHT THROUGH COURT FOR THE RIGHT TO BE IN MY DAUGHTERS LIVES AND FOR THEM TO GROW UP KNOWING THAT THEY HAVE A DAD THAT LOVES THEM AND IS THEIR FOR THEM NO MATTER WHAT!! SOME FATHERS TAKE OUT THEIR ANGER FOR THEIR EX ON THEIR KIDS BY NOT PAYING CHILD SUPPORT OR BEING IN THEIR LIVES! I PAY MORE THAN I WAS ORDERED TOO AND ALL I ASKED FOR WAS TO HAVE MY SET WEEKENDS, HOLIDAYS, AND VACATIONS WITH THEM EVERY YEAR! BOYS AND ESPECIALLY GIRLS NEED THEIR FATHERS IN THEIR LIVES TO SHOW THEM THAT THEY ARE LOVED AND TO TELL THEM IT EVERYDAY AND TO LET THEM KNOW THT THEY CAN BECOME ANYTHING IN THEIR LIVES THAT THEY WANT TO BE WITH HARD WORK AND THE SUPPORT OF THEIR FAMILY. SO HAPPY FATHERS DAY TO ALL OF YOU FATHERS AND IF YOUR NOT INVOLVED IN YOUR KIDS LIVES START TRYING TO CHANGE THAT ASAP!! I STILL TO THIS DAY CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW MY FATHER IF HE DESERVES TO EVEN BE CALLED THAT HAS SPENT HIS LIFE NOT CARING TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ME AND MY BROTHER OR HIS 3 GRANDKIDS!! INSTEAD HE IS A SELFISH MAN THAT JUST CARES ABOUT ALL HIS MONEY AND EVERYTHING HE OWNS OUT IN CALI!! HE CAN HAVE ALL THAT BECAUSE HE HAS MISSED OUT ON SOMETHING WAY MORE THAN MONEY AND THATS THE FEELING OF LOVE THAT I HAVE FOR MY LIL GIRLS AND THE WAY THEY LOOK AT AND LOVE ME! PEACE AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!
S
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Beachboy6294 said:
Man I hate bitches that use their kids to play games. You are obviously a GREAT father and it just sucks that you have to go through this. Lots of guys out there like you said don't do the right thing and here you are going above and beyond and look what it gets you. It makes me angry for you.Bikini Mod
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Beachboy, I dont have a crystal ball and I don't know how long or how hard the road ahead will be but take it from a mom who has been to hell and back for her kids (as is MY JOB) and a woman who knows of more than one GOOD MAN who missed out on being the lives of his children because of selfish women (who should be left in dark wet holes to rot like the garbage that they are), there is nothing that will ease your pain, except MAYBE the promise of the next day... that is IF you embrace that promise.
I can't tell too much because it is not MY LIFE to share with the board but suffice it to say that my husband is fighting harder than ever for MY KIDS. My children will never be his blood, however, because HE CHOSE this battle he will have the opportunity to affect the lives of four very very abused girls. Heck, my oldest will most likely fight us both tooth and nail, and I have even waivered... but he NEVER did.
My husband will be celebrating Father's Day alone too, as he has for many many many years, not by his choice...
I can't take his pain away and more than he can take mine HOWEVER I can love him till the day he dies because of the gift he gave me - the fight for my girls.
One day at a time, Beachboy... ONE DAY AT A TIME.
Reach out to my Old Grump if you want... I can only speak with a mother's heart. Perhaps the heart of an older more experienced man will be more helpfull...
I can't tell too much because it is not MY LIFE to share with the board but suffice it to say that my husband is fighting harder than ever for MY KIDS. My children will never be his blood, however, because HE CHOSE this battle he will have the opportunity to affect the lives of four very very abused girls. Heck, my oldest will most likely fight us both tooth and nail, and I have even waivered... but he NEVER did.
My husband will be celebrating Father's Day alone too, as he has for many many many years, not by his choice...
I can't take his pain away and more than he can take mine HOWEVER I can love him till the day he dies because of the gift he gave me - the fight for my girls.
One day at a time, Beachboy... ONE DAY AT A TIME.
Reach out to my Old Grump if you want... I can only speak with a mother's heart. Perhaps the heart of an older more experienced man will be more helpfull...
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Thanks BM and SS you both have been great having someone to talk to. SS you are a really awesome person and I appreciate the talks and encouragement! I have faith in God that things will work out for my daughters and myself but it still doesn't make it easier. I just try to take one day at a time like a recovering addict.
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I dont knowyour situation....but if you pay child support and have set days to see your girls.....what happened that you are not able to see them
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Whether a parent pays child support or not should NOT affect their ability to see their kids, that is an issue between the parents. Eventually the child will come to know and hate the deadbeat parent and that will be for that parent to address with the child and not for the custodial parent to interfere with.
Call me nuts but that is what I feel and lived.
My ex didn't pay me A DIME of child support or pendente lite spousal for nearly TWO YEARS and even in the presence of a final protective order I WILLINGLY share custody 50/50 simply because he said he wanted it.
My children know this and will never forget it. Even when he came to get stuff for his apartment after I kicked his ass out for beating me I gave him half the kids' clothing, half toys, most of the furniture, kitchen utensils and even food. All I asked is that he leave the children's bedroom furniture that I painted to match the murals that I painted for their rooms. Why? Because why would I make my children do without when they were with their father? That wasn't punishing him. That was punishing my girls.
When the situation was reversed he told my girls to put one week's worth of clothing (the youngest was 7) into plastic garbage bags, NO TOYS or any other personal items, bedding, etc and sent them to the street to go with mommy to live in squalor' leaving behind the nicest house they had ever known, the one in the nice neighborhood with the inground, heated pool.... Can you imagine how humiliating this was for four small girls?
They won't forget and neither will I.
Whenever they needed a winter coat or new shoes, "You want to live with your mother so bad, then tell HER to buy it for you."
Do the right thing and keep fighting for your children. Stay in their lives however you can and NEVER badmouth the other parent. TRUST ME....
I don't know what else to say. There are so many times when I question how I made it this far, but I did and so can everyone else if that is what they truly want. NEVER EVER allow the negativity of another get or keep YOU down. Don't yield your power to a lesser being - EVER.
Call me nuts but that is what I feel and lived.
My ex didn't pay me A DIME of child support or pendente lite spousal for nearly TWO YEARS and even in the presence of a final protective order I WILLINGLY share custody 50/50 simply because he said he wanted it.
My children know this and will never forget it. Even when he came to get stuff for his apartment after I kicked his ass out for beating me I gave him half the kids' clothing, half toys, most of the furniture, kitchen utensils and even food. All I asked is that he leave the children's bedroom furniture that I painted to match the murals that I painted for their rooms. Why? Because why would I make my children do without when they were with their father? That wasn't punishing him. That was punishing my girls.
When the situation was reversed he told my girls to put one week's worth of clothing (the youngest was 7) into plastic garbage bags, NO TOYS or any other personal items, bedding, etc and sent them to the street to go with mommy to live in squalor' leaving behind the nicest house they had ever known, the one in the nice neighborhood with the inground, heated pool.... Can you imagine how humiliating this was for four small girls?
They won't forget and neither will I.
Whenever they needed a winter coat or new shoes, "You want to live with your mother so bad, then tell HER to buy it for you."
Do the right thing and keep fighting for your children. Stay in their lives however you can and NEVER badmouth the other parent. TRUST ME....
I don't know what else to say. There are so many times when I question how I made it this far, but I did and so can everyone else if that is what they truly want. NEVER EVER allow the negativity of another get or keep YOU down. Don't yield your power to a lesser being - EVER.
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seaking420 said:
I paid $360 a week for 3 months without getting to see them after of a big argument we got into about a guy that slept over at her house and in the same bed as her and my oldest daughter. I actually went after the guy and was going to kill him but the police got to me first but not charges were pressed. After that it started a war between her and me and she kept making excuses everytime It would be my time with them. Well then she got me for X-mas and told me if I gave her like $1,400 they could spend X-mas day with my family and me after 1pm so I gave her the money and when the time came she was no where to be found I spent that day upset and crying. The last straw was she told me her attorney had been trying to get the final papers to me for the divorce but they couldn't find me so she said if I drove to his office which was 2 hrs away that I could have the girls that weekend so like a dummy I did and when i left there to go pick them up I called to let her know I was on my way. Well she told me that she brought them that day to get their shots and they were to sick to go. That was the final straw I broke down and really lost it that night. So I left New Orleans to get away before I did something stupid and I stopped sending cs around a month and a half ago because I felt maybe that would change her mind. Well it hasn't and now I feel horrible like I'm being a deadbeat dad and will most likely get in trouble for it.
I had to go hire another attorney and I'm suppose to be going back to court towards the end of July. I have tried to go see them many times and everytime I can't find her and the police come mess with me and pull me over and tell me to stay away. I was awarded custody also but this is Louisiana and her family has alot of power here!
(((BeachBoy Daddy))) One day at a time.Beachboy6294 said:
hehehh Husband's day. 
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BIKINIMOM said:LOL As IF I didn't know.
You didn't fuck with me at all...
Jokes on you darlin.
Just as in that thread, you sorta exposed your true feelings.
Either way you made YOUR point of view abundantly clear, as I have made mine.
From my vantage point, I am lookin pretty fuckin awesome.
you wacko, how did I expose my true feelings when I was just fucking around from the get go? PLEASE DON'T ANSWER heavy_duty
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Too much negativity up in this thread.
On Sunday my girls 4 & 6 are gonna cuddle with me and my DW in bed, then get up and make me breakfast then go for a nice walk down by the marina. Stop for fresh hot java (Second Cup or Starbucks) on the way. Chase some Canadian geese around, talk to the ducks and chat to some bro's launching their boats.
Then we're off to a dance recital for the 6 year old, that will last a few too many hours LOL by that time they'll want to take me for a steak dinner near the airport-- I'll prolly enjoy a couple Coors or vino and let da-wife drive home....once we get home they'll probably want to give me a foot masage and tell me how much they love me and how great I am. LOL
They already gave me some cool shit they made at school when I picked them up today
On Sunday my girls 4 & 6 are gonna cuddle with me and my DW in bed, then get up and make me breakfast then go for a nice walk down by the marina. Stop for fresh hot java (Second Cup or Starbucks) on the way. Chase some Canadian geese around, talk to the ducks and chat to some bro's launching their boats.
Then we're off to a dance recital for the 6 year old, that will last a few too many hours LOL by that time they'll want to take me for a steak dinner near the airport-- I'll prolly enjoy a couple Coors or vino and let da-wife drive home....once we get home they'll probably want to give me a foot masage and tell me how much they love me and how great I am. LOL
They already gave me some cool shit they made at school when I picked them up today
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BIKINIMOM said:
Was he father of the year at one point? You did have 4 kids with him. Did his personality just do a 180 one day?
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heavy_duty said:Too much negativity up in this thread.
On Sunday my girls 4 & 6 are gonna cuddle with me and my DW in bed, then get up and make me breakfast then go for a nice walk down by the marina. Stop for fresh hot java (Second Cup or Starbucks) on the way. Chase some Canadian geese around, talk to the ducks and chat to some bro's launching their boats.
Then we're off to a dance recital for the 6 year old, that will last a few too many hours LOL by that time they'll want to take me for a steak dinner near the airport-- I'll prolly enjoy a couple Coors or vino and let da-wife drive home....once we get home they'll probably want to give me a foot masage and tell me how much they love me and how great I am. LOL
They already gave me some cool shit they made at school when I picked them up today
I know we haven't seen eye to eye on alot of stuff but I'm happy for your kids and you and hope you have a wonderful time!
CM thanks I know that's all I can do is take it one day at a time.
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heavy_duty said:
No he was a jealous controlling emotionally abusive jackass from the beginning. But I was raised to believe that this was "normal."
I've explained this ad nauseum, but just because you asked, it will be my pleasure to address it yet again.
I was barely 21 when I started dating him so what did I know? I got married to get out of my parents' house (where do you think that I learned the fucked up notion that jealousy was part of love? And that it was ok for a man to call his wife a dirty whore just because he drank too much?) and I was going to *fix* my exhusband because I was going to give him the love that his parents never gave him. He never drank or called me diry names nor did he ever really raise his hands to me. We did get into a shoving match before our first anniversary and like a dummy we went to counseling and I chose to stay. I should have left then, but shoulda woulda coulda... We are all really good Monday morning quarterbacks... aren't we?
Yea, pretty fucked up... I know. But MY LOVE was going to fix him.
I know how naive that sounds now at the age of 41 but at 21 it sounded good almost noble. You see, I am one stubborn motherfucker and the quickest way to get me to do something is to dare me or say flat out that I can't. It was pretty sad that even our wedding party was taking bets on how long the marriage would last. The REALLY ironic part was that it was *blamed* on me. Well, I guess ultimately it WAS my fault because I did, afterall, kick his ass out when he beat me up.
The most fucked up part is that I had 4 children with a man who didn't want them in the first place. But again, I was stubborn and STUPID and I was going to show the world that MY LOVE would be enough.
Does that make me crazy?
Hardly.... It made me young and naive womanchild who was physically, mentally, emotionally and sexually abused her whole life thus far... though everyone knows that my intentions were good, that didn't mean that my road to hell was not paved with them... does it?
Interesting, you know, there are a couple of good fathers on elite (some are public about it, some are not) that are being deprived the privilige and pleasure of being with their children EVERY DAY, not just on Father's Day and all you can say about that is, "Too much negativity on this thread" then go on to tell in great detail what you will be doing with YOUR children." One might say that this would make you appear insensitive...
Wait a minute... You are the same guy who thinks that a child's parent shouldn't honor the other parent on that parent's day.
Nevermind... As you were.
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BIKINIMOM said:
Started dating at 21, how old when you got married? You really consider that age to be "young and naive"?
In your entire life up to 21 did you not ever see any other married people getting along? Aunts/Uncles, neighbours, family friends? television? Did they all call their wives names?
Does it make you crazy? well it doesnt make you look very smart.
"Wait a minute... You are the same guy who thinks that a child's parent shouldn't honor the other parent on that parent's day."
you said you knew I was joking---make up your mind--
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heavy_duty said:Started dating at 21, how old when you got married? You really consider that age to be "young and naive"?
In your entire life up to 21 did you not ever see any other married people getting along? Aunts/Uncles, neighbours, family friends? television? Did they all call their wives names?
Does it make you crazy? well it doesnt make you look very smart.
"Wait a minute... You are the same guy who thinks that a child's parent shouldn't honor the other parent on that parent's day."
you said you knew I was joking---make up your mind--
No, I did not say that I knew you were joking. Because I know that you ARENT.
LOL I am Magyar.. so sorry, most of the members of our community would beat their wives, their kids and drink themselves into oblivion - yes, this included my aunts and uncles and my parent's friends. Why I was so dead against marrying within my community. Why my sister married a non-Magyar man... but then again I fucked up big. I didn't realize that this type of behavior was not purely ethnic, though even according to our folk saying, "A man should beat his wife and count his money" one could reasonably argue that this was indeed the case.
"Penz olvasva, asszony verve jo."
In other words, a man should keep his affairs in order.
Another one of my favorites is:
"Egy legeny ha bele szarik a kalapjaba, 's vissza teszi a felyere akor is legeny marad."
In other words, if a man takes off his hat and shits into it before placing it back atop his head HE WILL STILL BE A MAN. <--- denoting a man's superiority over a woman, illustrating pretty harshly that no matter WHAT he does he is still ok, whereas a woman does not share that privilige.
I'm not proud of this. It is sad, but very true.
This has NOTHING to do with my intelligence LOL for you to even suggest that shows more about your intellect than anything else.
I was married at 22. So I wasn't very much more experienced in the world. I was only behaving the way that I had been raised to behave - to seek out and accept abuse, as abusive relationships were all that I had EVER known my entire life. My younger sister was lucky enough to be mentored by a young woman who did show her that there were alternative relationships in the world, that there were marriages where though times were tough, people did NOT drink and call their wives dirty whore nor did they beat them when they came home and the dishes weren't done. Interestingly enough though there was no abuse in her marriage, one of her daughters is mentally ill. We are talking I believe schizophrenic... which is an organic issue, I believe. It just goes to show that no matter what household one is raised in ultimately it is up to the individual how they live their lives. How much is nature? How much is nurture? That is the eternal question of scientists and philosophers alike.
Not to mention that my sister was mothered by ME. My mother cooked and cleaned and cared for us but I was more of a mother to my sister than she was. That is A FACT and yet another reason why my sister has been so willing to mother ME when I NEEDED IT.
When I had several young drug addicts on probation in my employ I came to learn (I don't have statistical data admittedly it is only anecdotal, based purely on my experience) that half of the young adults (we are talking up to mid 20's some married w/kids some single) came from STABLE LOVING MIDDLE INCOME HOMES and yet they STILL fucked up big in who they chose to align themselves with while others grew up in totally fucked up situations.
The point I am trying to make is that to maintain that MOST 20 somethings have the ability to make life-long choices on who is best to choose for a partner in life as opposed to much older counterparts is also unsupported. But then there is biology. At my age and at this stage of the game I am simply too old to have children.
My mother was weak and she stayed with my father until we were all married and/or out of the house. 'Course my brother had to be removed by the police, but that is another story altgother. Neither my sister nor I have ANY contact with him. Funny thing, she took him back after all that bullshit. My sister and I bent over backwards, we were grown women with families of our own while our alcoholic drug addicted brother did nothing but fan the flames... nevertheless we did our duty as daughters. But she took him back and we said we are done. The main reason why my sister has expended so much of her own life to help me is because I never EVER turned back after he beat me up. NEVER... most others stay in these relationships till they are killed.
By 39 when I married my current husband, one can clearly see that life experience taught me much about myself, the world around AND my place in it.
My husband worships the ground on which I walk, as it should be. And I have chosen him above all other men to father my fucked up abused babies. How many men would volunteer to father another man's children, let alone ones that HE KNOWS are very VERY fucked up? Yet my husband has been by my side fighting tooth and nail for ALL OF US...
I think that is a greater honor than who a naive abused BABY (sorry but for you to say that a 21 year old isn't naive shows how silly you are) chose to father her children when she didn't even know what abuse was.... that's right. I had NO CLUE what abuse was so how could I know how to avoid it?
Well, I got my shit straight and figured it out, not only for me but for my children and in the next little while here we will ALL be on the road to a very happy life.
I am happy for you that you have such a Norman Rockwell life. (no sarcasm at all) As, unlike you, I do not revel in the suffering of others.
I am glad that you were able to make choices that allowed you to reap the benefits of your position in life. That is to be commended. However, for you to rub that into the noses of those of us who willingly admit that WE DID fuck it up when we were young and had no other experiences to base our choices on, well that just makes you look insensitive at the very least, maybe defensive at worst. That would raise the question that though by your own account you are living the Norman Rockwell life why would you be defensive?
Not that it matters to me at all...
I am crazy, remember?
LOL
You honestly think that I didn't know you put this thread up for me? duh.... Methinks the whole damned board knew it. It was THAT transparent.
And I managed to help you make yourself look as badly on this thread and I did on the one for Mother's Day.
Dude, you got issues...
but then again - who don't?
The dividing factor is what we do with those issues, I suppose.
Have an excellent day.
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All I know is that you are one weird and crazy lady that just my opinion and I'm entitled to it.
Any way If you think I was not joking about mothers day and I did not do anything for my beautiful loving wife call her and ask her. (647) 308-6094
I keep posting BS for you and you say you know its BS then you say (3 or 4 times now) that you make me "look badly"
I don't revel in your suffering but I do laugh when you waste your time writing in my stupid threads when you know they're put up just to drive you crazy.
I think you're crazy for not having me on ignore!
Any way If you think I was not joking about mothers day and I did not do anything for my beautiful loving wife call her and ask her. (647) 308-6094
I keep posting BS for you and you say you know its BS then you say (3 or 4 times now) that you make me "look badly"
I don't revel in your suffering but I do laugh when you waste your time writing in my stupid threads when you know they're put up just to drive you crazy.
I think you're crazy for not having me on ignore!
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ortiz34 said:
I wasn't bashing HeavyDuty. He doesn't need me to. He makes himself look bad all by his lonesome.
Bottom line is he is trying to backpeddle from his comments on a thread where he said that a husband shouldn't have to do ANYTHING for his wife because afterall, it is mother's day NOT wife's day.
He said that. I didn't. We all know damned well he was not kidding. Nonetheless, that is his opinion and he is entitled to that also.
HeavyDuty's opinion of me matters not as it does not negate the way he portrays himself on the boards. Does it?
Who he is in real life... does it matter to me?
Not.
Regardless of my presence on this thread it is interesting how his only comment towards fathers who are denied the privilige of their children's company and love on Father's Day (and every other day for that matter) is, "Enough negativity already... " He then goes on to describe in detail how he will most likely be spending his day with his children.
As I said, one *might* get the impression that this made him appear to be a tad insensitive.
No, I am not a father but I AM a parent that has been denied the privilige of her children's company and love for too long. That is something that hurts in ways that words can not describe for both parents - FATHERS and MOTHERS alike.
Interestingly enough even though he seems insensitive to OUR PAIN none of us wishes him ill. We are glad to see him revel in his children's love.
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BIKINIMOM said:
LMAO Like you know me or something
I don't give a flying fart weather you believe I was joking or not. I made the same thread 2 years in a row and yanked your chain both times..enough that you wrote a novel about it. You should have just ignored it but for some reason you're like that pitbull I used to torment, he just kept on coming back for more.
I come here for jokes and laughs which is very different from why you are here!
My darling wife and my beautiful daughters know's what I do on mothers day, that's all that matters to me.
You probably thought I was serious when I made the thread about mother-fuckers day too eh
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heavy_duty said:LMAO Like you know me or something
I don't give a flying fart weather you believe I was joking or not. I made the same thread 2 years in a row and yanked your chain both times..enough that you wrote a novel about it. You should have just ignored it but for some reason you're like that pitbull I used to torment, he just kept on coming back for more.
I come here for jokes and laughs which is very different from why you are here!
My darling wife and my beautiful daughters know's what I do on mothers day, that's all that matters to me.
You probably thought I was serious when I made the thread about mother-fuckers day too eh
Keep digging your grave deeper...
You can not recover from YOUR OWN WORDS...
You have wounded many.
You may be laughing, but guess what, many of the rest of us who got fucked out of our families are NOT.
You should bury your head in shame.
But you aren't bright or humble enough to do that... are you?
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SpyWizard said:
LOL according to HeavyDuty - PRETTYfukkinMUCH.
Oh wait... he was only kidding...
but let him tell you IN DETAIL, you know for those fuckup fathers who WONT be with their kids, what he will get to do with his kids for this special day and EVERY FUKKIN DAY...
Shit., what are you crazy bitches whining about?
YOU ARE NUTS SO NO WONDER YOU CANT SEE YOUR KIDS! HE IS SUPERIOR TO YOU SO HE WILL TELL YOU IN GREAT DETAIL WHAT HE WILL DO WITH HIS KIDS.....
Oh shit, he was only kidding... no offense to you... He was just trying to make psychobitch bikinimom feel badly... not any of you fathers who got their kids taken from them for no reason....
Whatever HeavyDuty... You have shown your true colors.
I would rather be called crazy by you than to be you called insensitive by me (and many others)....
Seriously, revel in the love and privilige you are afforded by your circumstances because CLEARLY so many fathers AND mothers are not worthy....
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SpyWizard said:
Not a damned thing that matters...
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LOVE THEM KARMAs BRO'S LOL keep em comin
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On Fathers day just rem... 13-Jun-2008 08:42 AM youve been here long enough to know shes batshit crazy
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On Fathers day just rem... 13-Jun-2008 08:42 AM youve been here long enough to know shes batshit crazy
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I spoke my peace and you spoke yours.
Have a pleasant day.
Have a pleasant day.
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I miss my babies!!!
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Beachboy6294 said:
I know you do... believe me, I know how you feel. So do a lot of other parents on the board.
Don't EVER give up.
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This thead sucks!!! Some really great people in the thread and then some assholes
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The source of human weakness is internal, not external. Hence the journey must be inward not outward.
Discovering that the source of human weakness lies within reveals the location where our personal battles must be first fought and won before inner harmony can be achieved.
Discovering that the source of human weakness lies within reveals the location where our personal battles must be first fought and won before inner harmony can be achieved.
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heavy_duty said:
What relevance does this post bear to anything on this thread?
Who was asking/talking about weakness or how to overcome it?
