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Olympia 2004 Results (courtesy of BigSickD)

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1. Ronnie Coleman
2. Jay Cutler
3. Gestava (something something...:p)
4. Dexter Jackson
5. Marcus Ruhl
6. Gunther Schlierkampf

He was on the phone and it was loud as hell so I dont know who the 3rd place guy actually is :o lol...
But I JUST got these in from him :)

If these are wrong then blame him, not me :D
 
The Terminator said:
1. Ronnie Coleman
2. Jay Cutler
3. Gestava (something something...:p)
4. Dexter Jackson
5. Marcus Ruhl
6. Gunther Schlierkampf

He was on the phone and it was loud as hell so I dont know who the 3rd place guy actually is :o lol...
But I JUST got these in from him :)

If these are wrong then blame him, not me :D


Cutler had Coleman Beat
Jackson got beat by Coleman in abs/thighs????
Colemans abs do not even show...
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
Cutler had Coleman Beat
Jackson got beat by Coleman in abs/thighs????
Colemans abs do not even show...


How can you say that Colemans abs dont even show? They arent as good as Dexters, but Colemans leg are gigantic compared to Dexters so there is no contest. The results show it......Coleman is the MAN again!

That Gustavo is junk compared to Ruhl and Dexter and should be at least 5th or 6th, no better than that...enough said.

BobbyBIGGS
 
Dexter acutally did end up 3rd.they screwed up the scoring and apoligized for it later.Coleman was awesome and ended up with what he deserved.Dexter should have been 2nd and Cutler 3rd in my book.
 
BobbyBIGGS said:
How can you say that Colemans abs dont even show? They arent as good as Dexters, but Colemans leg are gigantic compared to Dexters so there is no contest. The results show it......Coleman is the MAN again!

That Gustavo is junk compared to Ruhl and Dexter and should be at least 5th or 6th, no better than that...enough said.

BobbyBIGGS

Hell yes his legs are better but his abs look like my butt cheeks spread open
 
Check out these pics. Dexter was much tighter than Cutler. In the back shots (which aren't attached) Dexter's back, glutes, and hams - although not as big - were much more defined.

Gustavo had a strong showing. His mid section seemed more muscular than Dexter's and his legs were bigger as well. His hams, glutes, and calves looked strong too.

They (IFBB) incorporated some 'instant scoring' in the night show (WTF?). In addition to this they should have the judges publish their reasons for scoring these guys the way they do. I know that judges don't do it in other sports, but it might make their decision making a little more understandable.
 
detroitbodybuildertigers said:
Cutler had Coleman Beat
Jackson got beat by Coleman in abs/thighs????
Colemans abs do not even show...

Uh, no. Ronnie destroyed Jay from the back.....Jay can't ever get his conditioning on his hams and back right.
 
The funniest thing from the whole competition was when Ronnie said Jay must have smoked crack that morining if he thought he could beat him.Coleman is king and Dexter is awesome Jay should just be happy with another gift he was given with second place.
 
Is anyone on this Board going to give Cutler the respect he deserves as a great Bodybuilder? He's not the best and won't be until Ronnie retires later in his career with nine successive successes, but is how can we say is...."The Best of The Rest".
 
Some people, myself included, just don't believe Jay IS the best of the rest... so of course we won't give him what you think of as the respect he deserves. Almost all of those guys deserve tremendous respect for what they go through to get on stage, but honestly, I like dexter and several other physiques a lot more than Jay's. I like Ronnie alot more than Jay. I also think Jay's been getting gifts for the past 3 years, I'd like to see him get 4th or 5th like he deserves for once.
 
wtlftr said:
my girlfriend actually tried to argue that some of them were natural. dumbass
Naaahhh..... with all that CellTech creatine they consume they can hardly be considered natural.
 
BOOEY said:
no question Ronnie deserved the top spot. I don't think anyone can take him for at least a couple more years. Gunter had the most potential to a few years back, but for some reason he's coming out worse every year.

Kevin Levrone off the juice:
http://www.bbszene.de/html/mro2004_2day/PA291571.JPG

Christ, Levrone looks like and AIDS patient compared to what I'm used to seeing him as.

Ronnie is the BIGGEST motherfucker goin today. Over-all package though, he's NOT bthe best man on that stage. Dexter Jackson is. If I could choose to wear the same physique as Ronnie, Jay or Dexter, I'd choose Dexter's physique, hand down.
If the Olympia was judged on size alone, few need even bother to get on stage with Ronnie. But the way things are supposed to be judged, Ronnie dosen't deserve #1. I feel bad for these who put in so much effort and devote their lives to the sport, only to end up in a contest that is so blatently fixed every year.

And I just say this again, Coleman is hypocritical liar. Mr. I'm all natural. Mr. I'm on the force, known as patrolman walking pharmacy who bust others if they posess drugs. Zero respect for the guy. ZERO.
 
smaller said:
Check out these pics. Dexter was much tighter than Cutler. In the back shots (which aren't attached) Dexter's back, glutes, and hams - although not as big - were much more defined.

Those pics labeled Gustavo are actually Ahmad Haidar.
 
Lowest said:
Some people, myself included, just don't believe Jay IS the best of the rest... so of course we won't give him what you think of as the respect he deserves. Almost all of those guys deserve tremendous respect for what they go through to get on stage, but honestly, I like dexter and several other physiques a lot more than Jay's. I like Ronnie alot more than Jay. I also think Jay's been getting gifts for the past 3 years, I'd like to see him get 4th or 5th like he deserves for once.
what cutler deserves is the o title !!!!!!!! and dexter close behind, coleman is long in the tooth, and should follow arnolds lead and go out on top, let the youngsters play for a while,
 
LVTitan said:
what cutler deserves is the o title !!!!!!!! and dexter close behind, coleman is long in the tooth, and should follow arnolds lead and go out on top, let the youngsters play for a while,
He doesnt deserve 2nd place in my opinion. Big but bad symmetry and not as cut as Dexter. I`d place him 4th. No one can touch Coleman, he is bigger than anyone else except Ruhl but Ruhl will never win, he is a freak. It sucks that Flex no longer compete. he deserves 1st place. Dexter is too small, just like Shawn Ray. perfect condition but overall small size compared to Ronnie. But I like that guy.
 
Retabolil2 said:
He doesnt deserve 2nd place in my opinion. Big but bad symmetry and not as cut as Dexter. I`d place him 4th. No one can touch Coleman, he is bigger than anyone else except Ruhl but Ruhl will never win, he is a freak. It sucks that Flex no longer compete. he deserves 1st place. Dexter is too small, just like Shawn Ray. perfect condition but overall small size compared to Ronnie. But I like that guy.


I agree with you totally on the comparing of Dexter to Shawn Ray, hes just to small and will never win unless they get back to the more aestitic bodybuilder, we are living in a world where bigger is better and everyone loses when it comes to Big Ronnie. People can say Ronnies abs this and Ronnies abs that but i think they looked good and people have to realize that it is easier to hold a tight midsection at 225 (Dexter) compared to a 296 (Ronnie). Just my .02.

BobbyBIGGS
 
slyder190 said:
Christ, Levrone looks like and AIDS patient compared to what I'm used to seeing him as.

Ronnie is the BIGGEST motherfucker goin today. Over-all package though, he's NOT bthe best man on that stage. Dexter Jackson is. If I could choose to wear the same physique as Ronnie, Jay or Dexter, I'd choose Dexter's physique, hand down.
If the Olympia was judged on size alone, few need even bother to get on stage with Ronnie. But the way things are supposed to be judged, Ronnie dosen't deserve #1. I feel bad for these who put in so much effort and devote their lives to the sport, only to end up in a contest that is so blatently fixed every year.

And I just say this again, Coleman is hypocritical liar. Mr. I'm all natural. Mr. I'm on the force, known as patrolman walking pharmacy who bust others if they posess drugs. Zero respect for the guy. ZERO.

I agree that the way the Olympia and most other pro events are judged sucks, but that's the way it has to be. I mean, if the contest was judged on symetry, cutness, etc etc, do you know how many eligbile contestants there would be? Thousands. Judging can't be the way it used to be in the 70's or early 80's because there are too many people that look like that now. Arnold's physique, while unique back then, is hardly unique today. The only avenue these events can go on is size, hence "King Ronnie."
 
OK! Coming come from an unbiased source since Kevin Levrone has obviously retired. His commentary was great though, very humorous! Triple H, lets just say ANNOYING! Anyways, even though Ronnie's conditioning wasn't all time best and stomach again was bloated and distended he deserved 1st place. The guy is just a fricking beast! 5'11" at 296 lbs. shredded, good god! I've never seen him looking that large before ever. Cutler, NO FUCKING WAY. All politics, has to be. To me he deserved no higher than 5th and honestly there were guys that didn't make top six that should have easily beat him. It's all his name, and that's it. No symmetry, blocky waist, distended puffy goofy looking stomach, and wasn't even in that good of condition. Plus, with a hair cut like that, NAHH! Gustavo was tight and deserved his placing, but Dexter got robbed. That n*gg* is just sick! I have never seen Markus Ruhl looking that dialed in either, he had his shit together this time around. I don't know that's about it for my 2 cents, but one more thing (well actually 2) that I thought was the greatest!

- Ronnie Coleman beat Dexter Jackson in an abs & thighs pose in the "let's compare a rose round." I guess abs don't count, must just be thigh size?

- And even yet to add injury to insult, Jay Cutler (WHAT THE F**K?) later beats Ronnie Coleman in an abs & thighs pose? I was like yeah right, and almost had to throw the TV out the window.

Something really has to be done about the IFBB as a sport if it ever wants to be respectable like other professional organizations. It's really almost getting down right silly. And, I hate to say it.
 
mrflexdiesel said:
OK! Coming come from an unbiased source since Kevin Levrone has obviously retired. His commentary was great though, very humorous! Triple H, lets just say ANNOYING! Anyways, even though Ronnie's conditioning wasn't all time best and stomach again was bloated and distended he deserved 1st place. The guy is just a fricking beast! 5'11" at 296 lbs. shredded, good god! I've never seen him looking that large before ever. Cutler, NO FUCKING WAY. All politics, has to be. To me he deserved no higher than 5th and honestly there were guys that didn't make top six that should have easily beat him. It's all his name, and that's it. No symmetry, blocky waist, distended puffy goofy looking stomach, and wasn't even in that good of condition. Plus, with a hair cut like that, NAHH! Gustavo was tight and deserved his placing, but Dexter got robbed. That n*gg* is just sick! I have never seen Markus Ruhl looking that dialed in either, he had his shit together this time around. I don't know that's about it for my 2 cents, but one more thing (well actually 2) that I thought was the greatest!

- Ronnie Coleman beat Dexter Jackson in an abs & thighs pose in the "let's compare a rose round." I guess abs don't count, must just be thigh size?

- And even yet to add injury to insult, Jay Cutler (WHAT THE F**K?) later beats Ronnie Coleman in an abs & thighs pose? I was like yeah right, and almost had to throw the TV out the window.

Something really has to be done about the IFBB as a sport if it ever wants to be respectable like other professional organizations. It's really almost getting down right silly. And, I hate to say it.

Just like boxing!

Anyway what the fuck happened to kevin Lavrone is that what happens to everybody once they stop the juice? Actually I think it may just be the jackets because schlierkamp looks kinda small in his as well, besides his chest at the top.
 
Got this in an email from earlier today if anyone is interested...
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The Results of the 2004 Mr. Olympia

The Ronnie sightings began a few days ago in Las Vegas. A competition-ready bodybuilder over 300 lbs is always noticed, even in Vegas. Last year, Ronnie Coleman won his sixth consecutive Mr. Olympia at a phenomenal bodyweight of 287 lbs in what was arguably the best conditioning of his career. As most bodybuilders who have trained seriously and consistently over five years realize, a 10 lb increase in lean body mass in a year's time is amazing. For a 40 year-old, elite bodybuilder with almost 20 years of training under his belt to make such gains is nothing short of miraculous. And when he stepped on stage tonight at the Mandalay Bay for the 2004 Mr. Olympia at a bodyweight of 296 lbs, it was indeed "game over, lights out"!

1. Ronnie Coleman - Ronnie did not disappoint. He learned his lesson from the 2002 Olympia where he failed to make an improvement year-over-year and was seriously challenged by Jay Cutler and Gunter Schlierkamp. And for the past two Olympias, he has made dramatic improvements at each outing. While he may have held a little water in the midsection (more evident in the prejudging than the night time show), his overall improvement in size made him unbeatable. With all due respect to one of my favorite bodybuilders, Dorian Yates, Ronnie's back development is the best in the history of bodybuilding, past, present, and in the foreseeable future. His legs are massive. The only thing more impressive than the appearance of his legs on stage is the hardcore training that goes into building those tree trunks! We've seen his squat workouts and his deadlift workouts in Cost of Redemption and the Unbelievable; I believe Ronnie's videos are the single biggest reason we are seeing more lifters in the gym adding deadlifts and squats to their regular workouts. His confidence and light-hearted humor made the show much more enjoyable. (E.g. "Jay's been smoking crack this morning", "lights out, game over, lat spread", "nothing but a peanut!")

2. Jay Cutler - Ronnie wasn't the only one to make dramatic improvements in size. Jay desperately wants a Sandow and has obviously put considerable effort into improving his physique and the results showed. There appeared to be a slight film of water covering his back; I don't think this would have made a difference since Ronnie is from another planet when it comes to back development. Jay stated that he felt Ronnie was "beatable." I'm not sure many in the audience agreed. But Jay showed his fierce determination to become Mr. Olympia, if not now, then when Ronnie retires. Maybe Jay was a little too serious. I hope his seriousness does not eat away at the passion he has shown for the sport.

3. Gustavo Badell - Gus is clearly the surprise bodybuilder of 2004. He has made the greatest improvements in his phyisque of any competitor on stage last night. I must admit, Gus caught me by surprise. After all, he placed 24th at the 2002 Mr. Olympia. But since Milos Sarcev has become involved in helping Gustavo, he is now a contender. Amazing. I look forward to watching him compete next year and the years to come.

4. Dexter Jackson - Dexter is a future Mr. Olympia. The conditioning of "the Blade" is unparalleled. At every show (and he competes several times per year), he is always "on" - check out the video clip of him at the Arnold. And every year that Dexter has competed in the pro ranks, he has continued to add size. It is only a matter of time before he reaches that perfect combination of size and conditioning. The conditioning is there. And don't get me wrong, the size is there as well. But as long as mass monsters such as Ronnie, Jay and Markus roam the earth, the burden is on Dexter to get bigger. If we had two categories in bodybuilding competition: "Freaky Mass" and "Perfect Symmetry", Dexter would win ever year closely followed by the likes of Darrem Charles. This year Dexter's placing was seriously hurt by the addition of the new round - the "Challenge Round". Dexter lost a "most muscular" challenge to Gustavo and a controversial "ab-and-thigh" challenge to Ronnie. The Challenge Round may add another dimension to the contest with more excitement and entertainment but in no way does it make the judging any fairer. There will be a lot of debate regarding the future of the Challenge Round.

5. Markus Ruhl - Markus has one of the most massive, impressive physiques in bodybuilding today. The word "freak" has never been more appropriate to describe a bodybuilder nor has it ever been said in such a complimentary manner. Always known as nice, personable person to his fans, he showed the audience last night that he has quite an eye for assessing the strengths and weakness of his competitors physique during the "Challenge Round". Many thought Markus should have won more of the callouts he made, this observer included, and yes, possibly even the callouts against Jay and Ronnie. He should have placed higher. But there is some justice in the sport - thanks go out to Muscular Development magazine for recognizing Markus "freak status" by giving him the "2004 Freakazoid Award" accompanied by a $10,000 cash prize. Markus' recent DVD has helped increase his popularity. And his condition at the 2004 Olympia along with the "Freakazoid Award" will provide a perfect script for the sequel to "Made in Germany".

6. Gunter Schlierkamp - Gunter is a favorite in bodybuilding. After his 2002 conditioning, we all are in Gunter's corner, but until he can fulfill the potential he showed he 2002, he will not move up in the rankings. However, Gunter was right on with his criticism of the official 2004 Olympia poster. The poster featured a posedown between Ronnie and Jay; Gunter pointed that there were 19 competitors. The contest was between Ronnie and the rest of the field!

7. Chris Cormier - Chris looked great as usual. But on a stage where most of the top 10 competitors made considerable improvments over the past 12 months, the judges seemingly penalized Chris for not making comparable improvements.

8. Dennis James - Finally, Dennis James showed what he is capable of at the 2004 Olympia. In past years, he has always showed amazing potential in the off-season only to miss with his contest prep for the Olympia. He should have placed much higher. Still, DJ is much more impressive in the off-season and in his training videos.

9. Victor Martinez, 10. Darrem Charles, 11. Pavol Jablonicky, 12. Kris Dim, 13. Ahmad Haidar, 14. Johnnie Jackson, 15. Troy Alves, 16. Craig Richardson, 17. Mustafa Mohammed, 18. Richard Jones, 19. Claude Groulx

There is nothing like seeing the top bodybuilders in the world in person. I know that many of the Olympia contestants have a few more guest posing appearances scheduled this year. I encourage you to see them. If you've only seen the pros in magazines, watch their training videos. If you've only seen their videos, you must see them in person. Nothing else will do their physiques justice.
 
TheRide said:
Got this in an email from earlier today if anyone is interested...
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Solid summary...If Ronnie retires, who's up next? Jay or Dexter?
 
Hey,

This my 1st trip to the Olympia, and it was great. HHH from the WWE was there to represent. Stallone was present to advertise his new line of supplements "Instone". Ferrigno was selling autographed pics again, I guess he doens't make enough anymore to give back to those who support him. Does he really need $20 a autograph? Tom Arnold was keeping it lively at the Mr. O.

As far as the show, the Mrs. O. was very close, Lenda looked great, could have gone either way.

The Mr. O was pretty impressive as well, especially with the new challenge round. The idea was great, and more exciting. But it was disappointing as well. As the crowd watched and cheered for the best pose. There was a few calls where you knew it was really fixed. Cutler definitely did not deserve 2nd, I would say at best 3rd or 4th. He just wasnt' carrying the vascularity that Gustavo and Jackson, and Ruhl had. The way the judges were calling it, you knew they had to make sure who was going to be the top 2. Even though the crowd saw a tighter race, by means of the 1 on1 pose down. I feel Ronnie with his mass, the 1st place finish was well deserved, if you were able to look beyound the bloated looking mid section.

For the expo, WOW. The eye candy was off the charts. I had major sensory overload. It was unbelievable to be in a place with so many hotties everywhere.

Between the Mr. O Expo and Arnold Expo, probably the Arnold classic has the edge. Both, something you gotta attend at least once.
 
Was anyone else completely disappointed in the pay per view. The lighting was horrible... either that or everyone came in "off". I believe it was the lighting though. I thought the camera man did a horrible job too. Not enough close ups etc.
I never really thought about how short all the body builders were until I saw HHH tower over them. I have run into him many times... I'm taller than him at 6'3" (he is way bigger than me though).
Everyone seems to think Cutler is getting a free pass. I have news for you... its the opposite. I happened to be sitting at lunch with a buddy who is a national judge. We were eating with one of the judges from the "O". He basicly stated that none of the judges can stand Cutler and they will make sure he NEVER wins the "O"!!!!
I thought the 7 lbs Dexter put on went right to his abs. They were sticking out. He didn't look his best! I did think he looked the best of all the competitors though.
Marcus Ruhl was awesome! Victor Martinez is the future of the sport as long as he keeps his head on strait.
How does Gunter score so well? What would have happened if Dexter got the points for beating Ronnie in the ab shot (he killed him)?
No one.. I mean no one... is beating Ronnie in the back shot!
All in all I thought the Pay Per View was a let down! I thought everyone looked better at the Arnold! I guess I will have to wait for the pictures to see the real detail...
Dennis James... his abs... WTF?
 
Dexter looked the best IMO, and Ronnie looks like shit. I agree he's a freak of nature and no one can match his sixe or conditioning, but as far as pleasing to the eye, no thanks. Jay's size looked good, but off a little in the conditioning.
 
BobbyBIGGS said:
I agree with you totally on the comparing of Dexter to Shawn Ray, hes just to small and will never win unless they get back to the more aestitic bodybuilder, we are living in a world where bigger is better and everyone loses when it comes to Big Ronnie. People can say Ronnies abs this and Ronnies abs that but i think they looked good and people have to realize that it is easier to hold a tight midsection at 225 (Dexter) compared to a 296 (Ronnie). Just my .02.

BobbyBIGGS
After looking at the Cutler`s pics I think he deserves 5th place. His back and rear delt sucks! I think he has used some syntol to make back bigger to compete with Ronnie. It was a bad idea. He looks like shit. Big but his back looks bad comparing to Ronnie. And he has bloated look. Ronnie has veins on his arms while I dont see shit on Cutler`s arms! Dex is too small to compete with those mosters but I`d place him second.
Ronnie is not a monster. Ruhl is monster, thats for sure. Freak.
 
Jay Cutler is a great bodybuilder, no one can argue that. Ronnie is the greatest this sport has ever seen though. He is heads and shoulders above the second place guy at every show. Not even Arnold blew everyone off the stage the way Ronnie does. You might not like Ronnie, but you cant deny the fact that when he steps on stage it's over and the other competitors know it. He is absolutely dominant. No one will ever beat him again. He has separated himself from the pack, Cutler had a chance in 2001, it's gone now.
 
silverbackn said:
Jay Cutler is a great bodybuilder, no one can argue that. Ronnie is the greatest this sport has ever seen though. He is heads and shoulders above the second place guy at every show. Not even Arnold blew everyone off the stage the way Ronnie does. You might not like Ronnie, but you cant deny the fact that when he steps on stage it's over and the other competitors know it. He is absolutely dominant. No one will ever beat him again. He has separated himself from the pack, Cutler had a chance in 2001, it's gone now.
Its true, Cutler`s chance is gone. He abused syntol so his back and shoulders look sick!
 
Cutler yes is a big boy, but his physique like I said before is garbage. I'm really not sure why he gets the high placings and scores from the judges that he does? Looks like a big bloated box with a bubbly midsection to me. DJ, GB, and MR thumbs up!
 
Anyone know why Ronnies abs seemed to split apart in the middle? Too much GH perhaps?I noticed Dennis James had this going on as well...
 
Great review.

Ronnie - his physique is looking sloppier and sloppier the bigger he gets; however, NOBODY can match his size and conditioning which is why he deserves first place. He should also retire because his physique is losing its edge.

Cutler - nobody is denying that Cutler is a great bodybuilder; however, Cutler is the guy who will be forever known as the one to gets the gift placings. He didn't deserve 2nd place. Sure he has the mass, but his conditioning was way off and his physique is sloppy. The only thing he has on some other bodybuilders is mass, other then that nothing else. Should have been 5th at the highest.

Dexter - this guy is perfection! Nobody can match his overall physique. The only thing he can't match with other guys is sheer size, but he beats them in all other categories. Should have been 2nd. Future Mr. Olympia.

Ruhl - he has never looked as good as he did, one of the biggest improvements. He should have gotten the most-muscular and been placed 3rd or 4th.

Gustavo - huge improvement and awesome overall package. Should have been 3rd or 4th.

Gunter - sloppy physique and got a gift placing. Should have been way further down around 10th.

DJ & Cormier - off as usual.


mrflexdiesel said:
OK! Coming come from an unbiased source since Kevin Levrone has obviously retired. His commentary was great though, very humorous! Triple H, lets just say ANNOYING! Anyways, even though Ronnie's conditioning wasn't all time best and stomach again was bloated and distended he deserved 1st place. The guy is just a fricking beast! 5'11" at 296 lbs. shredded, good god! I've never seen him looking that large before ever. Cutler, NO FUCKING WAY. All politics, has to be. To me he deserved no higher than 5th and honestly there were guys that didn't make top six that should have easily beat him. It's all his name, and that's it. No symmetry, blocky waist, distended puffy goofy looking stomach, and wasn't even in that good of condition. Plus, with a hair cut like that, NAHH! Gustavo was tight and deserved his placing, but Dexter got robbed. That n*gg* is just sick! I have never seen Markus Ruhl looking that dialed in either, he had his shit together this time around. I don't know that's about it for my 2 cents, but one more thing (well actually 2) that I thought was the greatest!

- Ronnie Coleman beat Dexter Jackson in an abs & thighs pose in the "let's compare a rose round." I guess abs don't count, must just be thigh size?

- And even yet to add injury to insult, Jay Cutler (WHAT THE F**K?) later beats Ronnie Coleman in an abs & thighs pose? I was like yeah right, and almost had to throw the TV out the window.

Something really has to be done about the IFBB as a sport if it ever wants to be respectable like other professional organizations. It's really almost getting down right silly. And, I hate to say it.
 
Mr. Black said:
Anyone know why Ronnies abs seemed to split apart in the middle? Too much GH perhaps?I noticed Dennis James had this going on as well...
His abs are split because he was born that way. They have been that way for his entire career. He has a wide linea alba. GH causes a distended stomach, not a change in the shape of the muscle.
 
During all this, I've forgot to mention Kris Dim. Even though he came 12th I think he has some serious potential. He has a really dense physique
 
smaller said:
During all this, I've forgot to mention Kris Dim. Even though he came 12th I think he has some serious potential. He has a really dense physique

I second that! Kris Dim's physique kinda reminds me of my own physique. In about 2-3 years of course!
 
mrflexdiesel said:
I second that! Kris Dim's physique kinda reminds me of my own physique. In about 2-3 years of course!

Bro you're getting there by the looks of you in the avatar.

I'd like to see Idrise Ward-El and Dim duke it out at an Olympia like they did in the IFBB qualifier a few years. Actually, a lot of dudes in that competition, will be the next generation of freaks.

http://www.physiquephotography.com/full-idrise-ward.html
 
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Coleman in Moscow now! :evil: I think within next few years Alexander Fedorov will beat him. Cuttler sucks and doesnt deserve second place!
 
Retabolil2 said:
Coleman in Moscow now! :evil: I think within next few years Alexander Fedorov will beat him. Cuttler sucks and doesnt deserve second place!

You have to be joking about Fedorov. He has NO CHANCE against ronnie - he has a thick, ugly waist, has love handles, and his symetry is fucking horrible. His left lat was smaller than his right, and his chest is non-existent.

Sorry, he looks like frankenstein. Too many drugs too soon.....he doesn't have mature muscle at all. Its just too big of a hill to climb in a "few years".
 
poantrex said:
You have to be joking about Fedorov. He has NO CHANCE against ronnie - he has a thick, ugly waist, has love handles, and his symetry is fucking horrible. His left lat was smaller than his right, and his chest is non-existent.

Sorry, he looks like frankenstein. Too many drugs too soon.....he doesn't have mature muscle at all. Its just too big of a hill to climb in a "few years".
Ugly waist? what about Ronnie`s gut?! :) Anyways I think Cuttler looks like shit comparing to Fedorov. And we have Sergey Tsikunkov too! He place 3rd at Russian Grand Prix.
 
Retabolil2 said:
Ugly waist? what about Ronnie`s gut?! :) Anyways I think Cuttler looks like shit comparing to Fedorov. And we have Sergey Tsikunkov too! He place 3rd at Russian Grand Prix.



Sergey Tsikunkov is lightyears ahead of Fedorov - I don't see how they placed federov higher. Maybe because he's taller? I dunno.

Your comment about Cutler...HUH?

You have GOT to be kidding. Fedorov DOES NOT have a chest, and his symmetry and conditioning are horrible. HORRIBLE! Just look at his lats from the grand prix...his left lat is WAY smaller than his right. He also looks like a clown with all that bronze tan on. (has this guy ever heard of a base tan..)
 
yes, he forgot to squeeze the left lat and his waist is a little blooted but the guy looks dammned tanned good
 
wtlftr said:
yes, he forgot to squeeze the left lat and his waist is a little blooted but the guy looks dammned tanned good

Uhhh....his left lat is smaller in all the pictures. Maybe he forgot EVERY single time. Come on, this guy has no chance whatsoever against ronnie....anyone who thinks otherwise is smoking some mighty fine crack.
 
wtlftr said:
"he must be smoking crack was said by RONNIE. But in my opinion Ronnie was bigger but not the best

Your opinion is wrong. Give us a specific analysis of why Ronnie should have been beat, including which body parts of Ronnie's were worse. :rolleyes:
 
wtlftr said:
"he must be smoking crack was said by RONNIE. But in my opinion Ronnie was bigger but not the best

Your opinion is wrong. Give us a specific analysis of why Ronnie should have been beat, including which body parts of Ronnie's were worse. :rolleyes:
 
Levrone looks feminine almost lol :)

any way I have seen other pics of ronnie

despite his SERIOUS flaws he still won
 
poantrex said:

you must be joking about his lats bro, thats just a picture! I`m not saying Ronnies got a huge gut but Fedorov`s gut is no bigger! :) Anyways its not that easy to judge by the pictures. I was there. Fedorov was in much better shape than Tsikunkov and much bigger.
 
It's only my personal opinion but Fedorov has a lot of future as long as he keeps taking care of his trainings and muscles, soon, Ronnie will be defeated. Sorry if i hurted any feelings, it's only my PERSONAL OPINION
 
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