Ok for a First cycle what you guys think ??

[NegroPops]

Nolva may prevent bitch tits, but it will make you grow a vagina. it's science brah, look it up.

 

[kubes]

Why not just run hcg through the whole cycle at 250 iu 2 x EW?

 

[Agent Yolked]

Bump

 

[Jbranken]

thanks for the information guys . Appreciated !

Whoa!! Didn't even notice how much hcg you were using lol. Steve hooked you up with a good plan. Good luck!

 

[stevesmi]

Why not just run hcg through the whole cycle at 250 iu 2 x EW?

not necessary. it would be a waste to do that.

the whole idea behind hcg is to prepare your nuts for pct. you don't need to prepare your nuts on week 1 or 2.

 

[GradeABeef]

The last two weeks of my test p tren a cycle I started hcg at 250 twice a week.
Then I increased it to 500 twice a week for two weeks after.
I think it worked great.

 

[kubes]

not necessary. it would be a waste to do that.

the whole idea behind hcg is to prepare your nuts for pct. you don't need to prepare your nuts on week 1 or 2.

I don't understand why you would want to leave your testies shut down for 12 weeks if you can keep them functioning? The testies do more than just produce T. Why do you think trt patients use hcg with there testosterone injections?

 

[RADAR]

what is the reasoning behind nolva during cycle?

and i would not run clen post cycle.. that is a no no

what is your full stats? and what are your pct plans?

I agree, nova does nothing restarting your HPTA
Clen post cycle will eat up your muscle tissue

 

[RADAR]

No nolva. Use an ai like dex or stane. No clen. It's outdated and terrible for your heart. GW1516 is much safer and more effective

This, even formastanazol would be better

 

[Jbranken]

I don't understand why you would want to leave your testies shut down for 12 weeks if you can keep them functioning? The testies do more than just produce T. Why do you think trt patients use hcg with there testosterone injections?

Trt patients never come off and have no need to pct so your trt reference is irrelevant. This hcg discussion is specific toward cycling which requires pct protocols which include hcg blasts a few weeks prior to pct. The exogenous hormones you're using are suppressing your HPTA the whole cycle so HCG is fighting a never ending battle here. Using HCG the whole cycle is pointless and you run the risk of desensitization. Besides, it takes several weeks before experiencing testicular atrophy.