Ok for a First cycle what you guys think ??

[aaronm7856]

I will be jabbing 250mg every 5 days of Sustanon for 10 weeks, Along with this I will be running D-bol at 20mg a day for the first week and gradually upping this every week till I reach 50mg which I will run for 2 weeks during week 5 and 6 and gradually back down to 20mg again. This cycle will run for 10 weeks and I will be taking tamoxifen at 20mg a day from week 2 onwards. I did not want to run 500mg of Sust weekly as it is my first cycle and i'm not taking any chances of getting bad sides. My diet is in check and I am getting just under 4000 calories a day with the correct macro-nutrients. I will be taking all my nutritional requirements including Amino Acids etc. I also have a good pct layed out which will start 2 weeks after my last injection. I'm also thinking about throwing clenbuterol into my post cycle. Does this all seem fine for a ten week cycle??

 

[stevesmi]

what is the reasoning behind nolva during cycle?

and i would not run clen post cycle.. that is a no no

what is your full stats? and what are your pct plans?

 

[Jbranken]

No nolva. Use an ai like dex or stane. No clen. It's outdated and terrible for your heart. GW1516 is much safer and more effective

 

[aaronm7856]

Week 3: 5000IU HCG total + 20mg Nolvadex daily
Week 4: 5000IU HCG total + 20mg Nolvadex daily
Week 5: 2500IU HCG total + 20mg Nolvadex daily
Week 6: 20mg Nolvadex daily
Week 7: 20mg Nolvadex daily
Week 8: 20mg Nolvadex daily

I was running it during cycle to make sure there was little chance of getting bitch tits. I have taking this advice from Steroid guru and former bodybuilder Mick Harte as it was in one of his books. Better safe than sorry? Ill ditch the clen, does the cycle itself seem ok and will i expect to see some good gains. I weight 170 and im 5ft 9 . 21 years old and training and eating hard since i was 16 . I got a good lean foundation and i have all my training in check

 

[kubes]

I would drop the dbol and run Test 250 e3.5d only for a first run that way if you run in to any sides they will be easy to manage and know what compound is causing them. Run adex at .25 eod to keep E under control and hcg 250 iu every 3.5 days. Save the tamox for pct.

 

[Jbranken]

Week 3: 5000IU HCG total + 20mg Nolvadex daily
Week 4: 5000IU HCG total + 20mg Nolvadex daily
Week 5: 2500IU HCG total + 20mg Nolvadex daily
Week 6: 20mg Nolvadex daily
Week 7: 20mg Nolvadex daily
Week 8: 20mg Nolvadex daily

I was running it during cycle to make sure there was little chance of getting bitch tits. I have taking this advice from Steroid guru and former bodybuilder Mick Harte as it was in one of his books. Better safe than sorry? Ill ditch the clen, does the cycle itself seem ok and will i expect to see some good gains. I weight 170 and im 5ft 9 . 21 years old and training and eating hard since i was 16 . I got a good lean foundation and i have all my training in check

That's oldschool shit. Things have changed. Nolva is also outdated and terrible for you. Aromasin and adex are much better options for estro control, and you'll need good control of it with test and dbol. You want an a.i., not a serm. Your hcg blast looks all dickered up too. You should be blasting at the end of cycle

 

[aaronm7856]

Week 3 is the start of my pct. its 2 weeks after my last jab

 

[stevesmi]

that is way too much hcg too. hcg will suppress your LH and FSH. to run it at that high a dosage is counter productive.

also jb is right, nolva all cycle and then more PCT? nolva sides are not fun. if you run an AI during cycle you shouldn't get bitch tits

steroid guru (whoever that is) and Mike Harte or whatever never cycled. they just stayed on so how would they know what is a good pct ? think about it. I have found that 99% of the jokers online advising nolva and these ancient pct's don't even cycle themselves, (in other words they just stay on all the time) remember that when you get advice from them. or they come off for 2 or 3 weeks then jump back on and think thats cycling when the esters haven't even cleared their bodies yet!!

here is a proper pct for this type of cycle .. btw not a fan of sustanon for just 10 weeks but thats fine for your first time .. next time run cyp if you want 10 weeks.. sustanon should be run longer because of its long esters that you are pretty much not even taking advantage of.. but thats for another debate

during cycle you need an AI from day 1. aromasin, adex, forma, etc. hcgenerate starting week 5... after last shot run 250iu hcg every 3.5 days for 2 weeks... then up it 1000iu's every 3.5 days for 2 weeks. then clomid 25mg ED or EOD.. along with test infusion and natty supps of your choice.

 

[kubes]

That much hcg could risk desensitizing the ledig cells as well

 

[aaronm7856]

thanks for the information guys . Appreciated !