Newbie 1st Cycle

[hansbrolo]

Hello all! I'm a new member of the EF forums. I have been researching for the past year, and feel that I am ready to jump into the world of AAS. Everywhere I've read said that test E was the best for a beginner cycle. Unfortunately, where I live, I am unable to easily obtain test e. Sust is otc however, so I'm gonna start my first cycle with that.

My cycle will be 500mg sust/week pinned once a week on friday. My first pin was last week, and I'm looking forward to my second pin on the upcoming Friday. I read many conflicting arguments, but after reading the Z Sustanon 250 thread here by needtogetaas, I've decided to just pin once a week. This is easier for me since I hate needles!

Pct was initialy going to be nolva 40/40/20/20, but I've found some clomid. I'm thinking about doing Nolva 20/20/10/10/10 and clomid 50/50/50/50. Thoughts? I have nolva on hand in case of gyno as well.

I hope to keep this log updated as much as possible.

Stats if interested
Age 27
Weight 215
Years lifting Been lifting since university, but took a 2 year haitus due to a back injury. Been back at it hard and strong for the past 2 years.

Goal - Get big!

Thank you all!

 

[zedhed]

Hey bro,
Welcome to EF. Sorry that it took me so long to get in here too my good man.
As for your pct. I would like for you to read the sicky on PCT. If you have trouble findning it let me know.
So read then put up your thoughts on what you have now for your pct.
Regards and looking forward to seeing more here bro.

 

[hansbrolo]

Thank you for your response. I read the sticky in the PCT section. Unfortunately, I live overseas and I am not able to find many of the suggested products. The only things I can get are what I can get OTC, which are nolvadex, serophene (clomid), and aromasin. I am unsure of the customs laws here, and I do not wish to test the waters there. I wish I could get everything suggested, but I have to work with what I can get. Hopefully my proposed nolva/clomid pct is good enough. I was going to run aromasin throughout the cycle, but since this is my first cycle, I wanted to know how my body reacts to test, to see if I'm gyno prone.

I hope that since this is my first cycle, and its a relatively low dosed one with only 500mg test/week, that my pct plan will be good enough. any other help would be greatly appreciated!

 

[zedhed]

Ok now I got you bro.
Here is this that I found "somewhere" for you with what you have available. This is excellent info from a guy that I fully trust and years of exp.

Sustanon

21-30 days after your last injection start your SERM treatment.

Choices

#1 clomid 50mg every day for 4-6 weeks.

#2 Torimefine 30-60mg every day for 4-6 weeks.

#3 Nolva 40mg for 14 days and then 20mg for 14-28 more days.

#4 clomid and Nolva combo.
clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 20/20/10/10/10/10

It is my opinion that everyone should run 25mg of Aromasin every day during there SERM treatment. Right from the beginning to the end. You do not have to do this.

As I said before every cycle will have one of the SERM treatments above. You will start your SERM treatment depending on the ester length of your testosterone. HCG will not have an impact on changing your SERM treatment. We will simply add HCG to our current protocols.

 

[hansbrolo]

Thank you for your response. I will probably go with option 4, since I have both serophene and nolvadex available to me. I will go to the pharms this weekend and pick up some aromasin, and take your advice. I will run 25mg everyday during my pct. Does that include the bridge period, or just the time I'm on my serm? Thanks for your helpful responses. So you don't have any objections with me just pinning 500mg once a week? I'm getting very conflicting responses saying I should pin 2x or 3x a week. Thanks!

 

[chesty]

Good luck keep us posted.

 

[hansbrolo]

Second pin done. Pinned right quad. Much smoother than my first injection in the bicep, hopefully it's not as sore as my first injection! Excited for the next week of training. Until then I eat like a horse and sleep like a baby

 

[zedhed]

Which ester did you end up getting? If you got sust prolly 2x/week. If you got the Test E one x/week is fine.
On that Aeromasin, you can do it as a bridge but you really need to pay attention to your joints too bro. You can kill off too much estro and then you start feeling it in your joints, aches...
Even on cycle with 500mg/week you may wanna go with EOD. I would try that and see how I do that way. Then if you get itchy sensitive nipps you can increase the dose.
The deal is that our bods need the estro too, we just need to keep in in check.
Also heat your gesr up first before you pin. Then after you pin massage the injection site. That way no pain bro!

 

[hansbrolo]

Thanks a bunch! Yeah I wound up getting sustanon. I was doing 1x a week pins but next friday i'm going to switch to fri/tues 2x a week for the next 10 weeks. I will definitely start heating my amps before pins because the after injection pain is pretty bad. Thanks for your help and I'll keep this updated as much as possible.

 

[zedhed]

Fosho bro keep posting for us. And good luck to you!