Thanks for the postive feedback. I've been training for about 7 years now. I've never taken any steroids but if you consider andro supplements steroids, then I'm guilty. Creatine is my favourite. Anyways I'm 5'10 185 46" Chest, Arms 17 7/8", Waist 31", Quads 26". As for by bodyfat no idea and don't really care, as long as I look 1/2 decent.