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New "Emergency" Steroid Law passed

cornfish

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Ok this is taken from another board, but did anyone hear about this crap?

Here's the details:

Taken from Muscle Nexus. Originally taken from Animals board....


Done in secret and the emergency part was even done in exception and without the usual steps for other emergency actions of drug laws!

FASCISM! Secrets and emergencies.

You didn't even hear about this, did you?

I heard about it on ...............HOWARD STERN and then looked it up today as it was passed yesterday. Stern had more info on how the law was bastardized and didn't follow normal protocol, but I couldn't find it onthe web.

03.27.06 - U.S. Anabolic Steroid Punishments Increased!
The U.S. Sentencing Commission has published notice of temporary "emergency" (i.e., immediate) amendments to the federal anabolic steroid sentencing guidelines. Henceforth, injectable and oral steroids will be quantified for punishment in a 1:1 ratio to other Schedule III drugs, resulting in a twenty-fold measurement increase for injectable steroid units and a fifty-fold increase for oral steroid units. Steroids in other forms ("e.g., patch, topical cream, aerosol") will be reasonably estimated based on a consideration of 25mg as one unit. Additionally, sentencing enhancements will apply in cases involving distribution to "athletes" or where coaches use their positions to influence athletes to use steroids, as well as in cases involving "masking agents." While likely to impact dealers more than personal users, the new 1:1 ratio nonetheless ignores fundamental differences between steroid usage and volume patterns as compared to other Schedule III drugs. Other potential problems with the amendments include the lack of any reference to potency in oral or injectable steroids, potentially leading to black market adaptations to circumvent the amendment (e.g., the creation of high potency "mega-pills") as well as the lack of any knowledge requirement involving distribution (e.g., via the Internet) to unidentifiable customers who may turn out to be athletes. It is expected that the revisions will be made permanent by Congress in November.
 
These fucking guys never seem to amze me! Millions die from Cancer caused by cigerette smoke, but who cares, because there is always a loobyist there to accept some cash from Phillip Morris. Steroids on the other hand, kill next to none, but hell, lets treat it like it's crack cocaine.

This country is becoming a Joke. People just looking for shit to bitch about.

The one problem I see here is everyone tries to keep steroid use to themselves. Maybe if we all started telling others about our use and the positives involved, and how little risks there are maybe it will become more mainstream, and we can start living life like the Canadians and Uk folk. Wishful thinking, most definitely. But we all have the right to dream.

"Steroids legalized for 2007"

Vote for Steroids!
 
d_o_c_ said:
These fucking guys never seem to amze me! Millions die from Cancer caused by cigerette smoke, but who cares, because there is always a loobyist there to accept some cash from Phillip Morris. Steroids on the other hand, kill next to none, but hell, lets treat it like it's crack cocaine.

This country is becoming a Joke. People just looking for shit to bitch about.

The one problem I see here is everyone tries to keep steroid use to themselves. Maybe if we all started telling others about our use and the positives involved, and how little risks there are maybe it will become more mainstream, and we can start living life like the Canadians and Uk folk. Wishful thinking, most definitely. But we all have the right to dream.

"Steroids legalized for 2007"

Vote for Steroids!
Well said
 
It's pretty classic and like the recent law in Mississippi that outlaw sex toys, this is just another platform issue. Yeah the deep south used up over 1000 legislative man hours to outlaw any 3 dimensional object that can be used to manually stimulate a person to orgasm.

Now that might seem like a great use of lobbyist cash, government resources, but it's another platform issue to get votes. I mean do you think that a state that has a $0.38 lower cigarette tax than the national average, the highest percentage of residents on welfare, and a 67% obesity rate really needs a sex toy law?

I think we should put in an emergency law to outlaw trans fat and fast food and slim all these fuckers down.

blah blah blah, this made allot more sense in my head, but oh well it's just a rant
 
cornfish said:
It's pretty classic and like the recent law in Mississippi that outlaw sex toys, this is just another platform issue. Yeah the deep south used up over 1000 legislative man hours to outlaw any 3 dimensional object that can be used to manually stimulate a person to orgasm.

Now that might seem like a great use of lobbyist cash, government resources, but it's another platform issue to get votes. I mean do you think that a state that has a $0.38 lower cigarette tax than the national average, the highest percentage of residents on welfare, and a 67% obesity rate really needs a sex toy law?
I think we should put in an emergency law to outlaw trans fat and fast food and slim all these fuckers down.

blah blah blah, this made allot more sense in my head, but oh well it's just a rant

That is the funniest post of the week. Thanks.
 
d_o_c_ said:
The one problem I see here is everyone tries to keep steroid use to themselves. Maybe if we all started telling others about our use and the positives involved, and how little risks there are maybe it will become more mainstream, and we can start living life like the Canadians and Uk folk. Wishful thinking, most definitely. But we all have the right to dream.

"Steroids legalized for 2007"

Vote for Steroids!


I dunno bro, I don't get nearly as much shit from people for being on roids these days. Most of the girls I meet don't even ask me if I use AAS, they just assume that I do. 10 yrs ago "are you on roids?" was one of the 1st 3 questions a person would ask me when I just met them-sometimes before they even asked me my name(people are idiots). I'm bigger now and rarely get asked anymore and when I do it's usually by an undercover cop in the gym fishing for who the resident gym dealer is. I play dumb everytime. If you have to ask, you don't deserve the truth-especially if the truth is admitting to breaking the law.

If society knew just how many guys were using AAS and not dropping dead from them they could go back to pointing their fingers at the people that really have one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel: themselves. the smoker-drinker-antidepressant/PK popping-330+ cholesterol- couch potatoes w/ bad lower back from their high school glory days. These are the peeps that make health insurance so expensive and I don't see any emergency laws being implicated to save them from themselves.
 
The problem I have most with this whole deal is, how on earth does one trying to gain a better body effect others?

Lets see.....

Drinking: Drunk Drivers Kill people / Drunk people do stupid shit
Smoking: Second hand smoke can lead to Cancer and many other diseases.


Now lets look at AAS

AAS: Causes envy by others ( woopidy Freakin Doo )

These politicans that are pocketing our tax money really know what's important. Fucking Jarheads.
 
the cigeretts the fast food and sweets all valid points, I wonder what arnolds take is on all this since he's gov of my state. and the sex toy law is ridiculous what are the ugly people to do?
 
Sex Toy law is definitely crazy. Also, did you all know that in the military it is illegal to have sex in any other manner than the missionay position. Definitely no A-hole sex for the girls either.
 
d_o_c_ said:
These fucking guys never seem to amze me! Millions die from Cancer caused by cigerette smoke, but who cares, because there is always a loobyist there to accept some cash from Phillip Morris. Steroids on the other hand, kill next to none, but hell, lets treat it like it's crack cocaine.

This country is becoming a Joke. People just looking for shit to bitch about.

The one problem I see here is everyone tries to keep steroid use to themselves. Maybe if we all started telling others about our use and the positives involved, and how little risks there are maybe it will become more mainstream, and we can start living life like the Canadians and Uk folk. Wishful thinking, most definitely. But we all have the right to dream.

"Steroids legalized for 2007"

Vote for Steroids!

I agree bro. I wish we had a "gear" lobby. I guarantee there would be a different "opinion" in Washington if we did.
 
WOW I cant take this any more, laws stacked on top of laws. What are thay trying to do to us hear in the US of A, Realy how are we free, oh yes I guess we are free to go to war and die for the man.... Its all about the Money hear and that is all.... Make the rich richer, and Fu*k the poore people.... Oh dont forget if you do have a job that pays OK dont worry the man will find a way to send that some ware elss................


I give Up........
 
If Washington knew just how many of us "safely and successfuly" used AAS - and they had the "concrete" numbers - they would start to make moves to find a way to profit from it and control it.

I don't know if that would be better - or worse.............
 
itlnstln said:
If Washington knew just how many of us "safely and successfuly" used AAS - and they had the "concrete" numbers - they would start to make moves to find a way to profit from it and control it.

I don't know if that would be better - or worse.............


you must spread some karma before giving it to italian stallion again...

yeah and tax the shit out of it...but it would be worth it...
 
All hail your get geroge bush you people voted for..............You elect a guy thats cheats to win you see what you get......
 
Aside from this being a ridiculous measure, my questions are...

1. How long do these "Emergency Laws" last without the house and senate passing a law on new sentancing guidelines?

2. Will the house and senate do so?
 
Ozz2001 said:
All hail your get geroge bush you people voted for..............You elect a guy thats cheats to win you see what you get......


That's just "left-wing" conspiracy talk - lets stick to AAS talk and not politics.
 
BigCracker said:
I dunno bro, I don't get nearly as much shit from people for being on roids these days. Most of the girls I meet don't even ask me if I use AAS, they just assume that I do. 10 yrs ago "are you on roids?" was one of the 1st 3 questions a person would ask me when I just met them-sometimes before they even asked me my name(people are idiots). I'm bigger now and rarely get asked anymore and when I do it's usually by an undercover cop in the gym fishing for who the resident gym dealer is. I play dumb everytime. If you have to ask, you don't deserve the truth-especially if the truth is admitting to breaking the law.

If society knew just how many guys were using AAS and not dropping dead from them they could go back to pointing their fingers at the people that really have one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel: themselves. the smoker-drinker-antidepressant/PK popping-330+ cholesterol- couch potatoes w/ bad lower back from their high school glory days. These are the peeps that make health insurance so expensive and I don't see any emergency laws being implicated to save them from themselves.


FUCK ME!!! Couldn't of said it better. Man I feel for you guys, my gym has Firefighters and cops on the "BEANS" hardcore and we openly talk about our technique and stacking combos all the time (discreetly obviously), I really hope one day you guys in America will get to experience this too!



GUESS ;)
 
GUESS said:
FUCK ME!!! Couldn't of said it better. Man I feel for you guys, my gym has Firefighters and cops on the "BEANS" hardcore and we openly talk about our technique and stacking combos all the time (discreetly obviously), I really hope one day you guys in America will get to experience this too!



GUESS ;)

That is the thing though. You are discreet about it. If more people knew for sure how many use, it might start to seem alright to some who right now thing it is just for Bodybuilders and such
 
d_o_c_ said:
These fucking guys never seem to amze me! Millions die from Cancer caused by cigerette smoke, but who cares, because there is always a loobyist there to accept some cash from Phillip Morris. Steroids on the other hand, kill next to none, but hell, lets treat it like it's crack cocaine.

This country is becoming a Joke. People just looking for shit to bitch about.

The one problem I see here is everyone tries to keep steroid use to themselves. Maybe if we all started telling others about our use and the positives involved, and how little risks there are maybe it will become more mainstream, and we can start living life like the Canadians and Uk folk. Wishful thinking, most definitely. But we all have the right to dream.

"Steroids legalized for 2007"

Vote for Steroids!
Well said...K for you, Bro!
 
I said in a previous post,

the only steroid news that gets advertised is the negative effects. Roid Rage, guys killing their girlfriends, the one out of a million that drops a fuckin bar on his chest because he was workin out byhimself. this forum is very open about talking about the use and effects of gear. If this forum's information was more advertised maybe more people would understand the positive effect it can have on people's lives.

The other problem is look at the politicians, they are all overweight, drunks or coke heads. they aren't in the gym working out and using the gear. If we had a naturally healthier america and not such an overweight embarrassment It would be a lot easier for washington to take it in. All we need is one of our wonderful politicians getting caught sticking some test into his delt. It would then be ok, he would have no choice but to endorse what he did.

this out of all things would be the greatest idea for the overall positive outlook on using gear.

NYC
 
d_o_c_ said:
That is the thing though. You are discreet about it. If more people knew for sure how many use, it might start to seem alright to some who right now thing it is just for Bodybuilders and such


You got a point there but the bottom line is that I'm conversing with Cops that are responsible to enforce such a thing so that is why we are discreet about it in our conversation. Also the fact that there are other people in the gym that really don't need to hear our topic of discussion if you know what i mean.

But you are right about us being more open about it. I think it should be done through education and awareness such as the HBO special that aired several months ago!!! That was a real strong message that had numerous examples to back it up and prove that AAS, when used properly and responsibly through proper knowledge and know how is safe and beneficial!!!
 
I like the idea of seeing what arnold thinks about aas issues. Someone should just write him a letter. If anyone could change anything in the U.S. about aas use I think it would be him.

Inhibitor
 
Simply amazing....im so aggrevated I dont know what to say. George Bush is fighting the war against terrorist...but who can fight the war against the biggest terrorist of all (George Bush)
 
the whole thing of determining punishment accoriding to how many doses you have is just rediculous. that testimony by Rick Collins was saying how he saw guys with 250 tabs of anabol in their cars being charged with possesion with intent to distrubute. They have no idea that 250 tabs might last the average user just 25 days, such ignorance! I wonder how they would punish you if you were caught ordering powders. What would they do if you got caught with say 50 g of dbol powder!!?? Guess your ass might be in the slammer the rest of your life.
 
swordfish151 said:
Is this on video (in store) I remembered you posting something about this..i was searching high and low at blockbuster thinking it was like the 911 movie..

It's not a real documentry - it's a conspiracy theory, and it would be under "fiction" - that's why they don't have to PROVE any of their findings.

If you believe the stuff in that video - why wouldn't you move out of the US?

I know if I thought my Goverment had planned those attacks - I would "seriously" leave.

If you look hard enough on line - you can find about 3,000 conspiracy films about 9-11.

This is why we have to add "politics" to the list of things we shouldn't talk about on this forum - we decided on Religion the other night - lets just add the other fire-starter to it.

See, I support Bush 100% - ....................................but that should never have come up.
 
maldorf said:
the whole thing of determining punishment accoriding to how many doses you have is just rediculous. that testimony by Rick Collins was saying how he saw guys with 250 tabs of anabol in their cars being charged with possesion with intent to distrubute. They have no idea that 250 tabs might last the average user just 25 days, such ignorance! I wonder how they would punish you if you were caught ordering powders. What would they do if you got caught with say 50 g of dbol powder!!?? Guess your ass might be in the slammer the rest of your life.

i think it would be really tough to convince "anyone" you weren't intending to ditribute if you were caught making a ton of gear in your house.
 
itlnstln said:
It's not a real documentry - it's a conspiracy theory, and it would be under "fiction" - that's why they don't have to PROVE any of their findings.

If you believe the stuff in that video - why wouldn't you move out of the US?

I know if I thought my Goverment had planned those attacks - I would "seriously" leave.

If you look hard enough on line - you can find about 3,000 conspiracy films about 9-11.

This is why we have to add "politics" to the list of things we shouldn't talk about on this forum - we decided on Religion the other night - lets just add the other fire-starter to it.

See, I support Bush 100% - ....................................but that should never have come up.

Im not your typical "take my hand to the river" kinda guy my friend...Its always "interesting" to see ALL "ideas" and not just one....As far as believing..I dont "believe" just what people say..NOW..if they have "intereting" facts OR ideas to back their claim..then im all ears...im a grown adult..i can make my own judment. As far as politics...well we cant EXCLUDE politics when it comes to this board....I think you can understand why...
 
Ozz2001 said:
All hail your get geroge bush you people voted for..............You elect a guy thats cheats to win you see what you get......


I don't like bush either. But do you think the dems have there hands clean on the war on drugs...No they don't they were up in dady bush ass in the ealy 90's to start this dam war. The war on drugs is and easy way for the government to look like they are doing somthing. The only thing we can do is to vote LIBERTARIAN.
 
Iron man said:
I don't like bush either. But do you think the dems have there hands clean on the war on drugs...No they don't they were up in dady bush ass in the ealy 90's to start this dam war. The war on drugs is and easy way for the government to look like they are doing somthing. The only thing we can do is to vote LIBERTARIAN.

Um - yea, then we'll be all set.......... :rolleyes:
 
swordfish151 said:
Im not your typical "take my hand to the river" kinda guy my friend...Its always "interesting" to see ALL "ideas" and not just one....As far as believing..I dont "believe" just what people say..NOW..if they have "intereting" facts OR ideas to back their claim..then im all ears...im a grown adult..i can make my own judment. As far as politics...well we cant EXCLUDE politics when it comes to this board....I think you can understand why...


So you like stuff like

- Dinosaurs never existed
- We never landed on the moon


that's cool - and don't think I don't "investigate" things presented to me, cause' I do - and if you want to talk "factual" politics let me know - but it's NO one politicians fault that we are dealing with illegal substances.

And the 9-11 thing - "shame on you"
 
itlnstln said:
So you like stuff like

- Dinosaurs never existed
- We never landed on the moon


that's cool - and don't think I don't "investigate" things presented to me, cause' I do - and if you want to talk "factual" politics let me know - but it's NO one politicians fault that we are dealing with illegal substances.

And the 9-11 thing - "shame on you"

I like the "Idea" of letting my mind go "hmmmmm".....Free will brotha..free will....
 
swordfish151 said:
I like the "Idea" of letting my mind go "hmmmmm".....Free will brotha..free will....

i like going "Hmmmmmmm" too - but i usually do it KNOWING I'm watching a fictional piece...................

We're going to have a tough time coming to an agreement on something we actually probable agree on (does that make sense)?

I have personal ties to 9-11 - that's why I asked to drop the politics............

Hey Sword - drop me a PM (totally off topic)
:coffee:
 
d_o_c_ said:
Sex Toy law is definitely crazy. Also, did you all know that in the military it is illegal to have sex in any other manner than the missionay position. Definitely no A-hole sex for the girls either.


thats funny shit, i laughed outloud doc...
 
gettinripped said:
thats funny shit, i laughed outloud doc...

No one enforces that in the military - and they don't "frown" on AAS use in the military either...................
 
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