New cycle and PCT Help?

[bman1234]

I've done 1 cycle and plan on doing my second soon. First cycle was test prop and winny for 10 weeks. Got 8 weeks from prop and 10 weeks from winny. Seriously did wonders for me physically, mentally and health wise.
Had some sides. Suffered from years gyno prior to cycle. Definitely irritated the gyno and had slight ball shrinkage. Winny was definitely the cause. And it seriously messed with my liver. After cycle everything went back to normal.
For new cycle I am planning on doing just test ent at 300mg per week for 10wks. It's more an experimental cycle to see what my body needs. Was wondering if I should consider a pct? And what kind of pct? My body doesn't respond well to lots of drugs in system. So I am curious if anyone can help. Would be much appreciated.

 

[Jbranken]

You experienced all of those sides because you weren't running support supps. Not doing a pct is NOT an option. It is absolutely imperative that you run an extensive and thorough pct after every cycle, no excuses. You could screw things up long term if you don't start cycling correctly.

1-10 Test E 300mg
1-10 n2guard
1-10 HCGenerate
1-10 Aromasin 12.5mg eod
9-10 HCG 1000IU EW

PCT
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Forma Stanzol
N2Guard
T Boosting stack
(The board sponsors sell some amazing T boosters that actually work. My favorites are test infusion, test stack, phytoserms, DAA, methyl eaa, unleashed, hcgenerate. Pick a good combo to help your recovery)

Sarms1 Ostarine would be a nice addition to pct as well. It helps to retain gains after the cycle ends

 

[bman1234]

Thanks so much. Very informative. I have read a lot on nolvadex, aromasin and hcg. I'll be honest, I went into my first cycle unprepared. So before I start this new one I want to be knowledgable about what I am putting into my body. From my research, some people have sugested hcg throughout the cycle and you say at the end. Why is that?

 

[Jbranken]

Thanks so much. Very informative. I have read a lot on nolvadex, aromasin and hcg. I'll be honest, I went into my first cycle unprepared. So before I start this new one I want to be knowledgable about what I am putting into my body. From my research, some people have sugested hcg throughout the cycle and you say at the end. Why is that?

Most of us weren't prepared for our first cycle haha. Most guys still aren't doing it right after their 10th...

Yes, some guys run hcg the whole cycle. I prefer running hcgen since it's natural and gives a huge boost in libido while keeping you plump. Then, right before pct, I blast hcg for 2 weeks to give my nuts a nice kickstart. It mimics LH.

 

[bman1234]

What's your opinion on clomid, nolva, arimidex, etc..? Is one better than the other or is it preference, or even frugality?

 

[Jbranken]

As far as serms like clom/nolva, Some people experience negative sides on one or the other. Or both. Or neither. Gotta find what works for you. Adex is not a SERM, it's an aromatase inhibitor. It's in the same class as aromasin, letrozole, forma. Aromasin the best on cycle a.i. In my opinion. Forma works great in pct and letro kills gyno

If you aren't well informed on serms and a.i.'s, use your search engine and educate yourself. There's a lot of reading material on them out there as well as conflicting views. It's important to be well versed in both as they are an essential part of cycling

 

[bman1234]

I did more research on serms the AI's. I understand it though. And aware that I should definitely use an AI with test enth. Now with the clomid are you suggesting 25mg per day for 4 weeks?

 

[Jbranken]

Yep. You could even start at 50 but clomid gives me some undesirable sides so I use 25

 

[gymrat827]

tes 1-10....id go more than 300, but its up to you.
AI (anyone you like) 1-14

pct
any serm 10-14
hcgenerate 10-14
any AI 10-14 (but taper down your last 10 days)
post cycle/unleashed or forged post cycle.
Osta or LGD (both are SARM's)



before you start id get some bloodwork done, just to see where you stand estrogen wise. It will be very helpful determining your AI doses.

Sarms may or may not be new to you, i suggest you read up on them. they have very small effects on testosterone and can be very very helpful in pct, or even standalone. check out sarms1. they are the new guys in town, dam good stuff and its not overpriced like a lot of companies.



GL bud

 

[gymrat827]

I did more research on serms the AI's. I understand it though. And aware that I should definitely use an AI with test enth. Now with the clomid are you suggesting 25mg per day for 4 weeks?

everyone runs different doses.....

I use 100/75/50/25

and if you look around enough you will see guys going higher or way lower. Your body will tell you if you need to drop or raise the dose after a short while on it.