Nelson's Oral Recommendation

[dosteov]

I know Nelson recommended the following about a week ago. Just curious what people thought of it. Was going to run DBol for 4 weeks at 40mgs ED. I work out 4 days a week on average. You'd think it would be recommended to run it say 6-7 weeks only on training days. 20mgs pre workout, 20mgs post workout?

Thanks all!

!: Take orals only on training days.

Orals in general provide a harder kick and are mg per mg more powerful than injectables. But long term use wreaks havoc on your health. Since the boost from orals is so immediate and short lived, try one dose prior and one dose post workout. This will provide extra srength and extra anabolism when needed the most. Sure, blood levels won/t be as even but they never really are with orals anyway and as long as you're in a stable anabolic state from the injectables you'll be alright.

 

[JarheadChiro]

What's wrong, you don't believe him?

j/k

I've done that before, turned out fine.

 

[Mrpumped]

Complete waste of time because you will lose what you gain from it. Now if you were going to run a 10-12 week cycle of Test E and jumpstart it with 40mg/ed of D-bol for 4-5 weeks, you'd be able to turn it into a good gain by dieting and training properly.

If you're scared of needles, I would suggest you run an 8 week cycle of D-bol and T-bol or Var. This way you can make a more solid gain vs a watery gain from just D-bol. Something like 40/40 of each everyday. Just taking orals on workout days will just have your blood levels all fucked up.

 

[dosteov]

Complete waste of time because you will lose what you gain from it. Now if you were going to run a 10-12 week cycle of testosterone enanthate and jumpstart it with 40mg/ed of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for 4-5 weeks, you'd be able to turn it into a good gain by dieting and training properly.

If you're scared of needles, I would suggest you run an 8 week cycle of D-bol and T-bol or Anavar - oxandrolone - . This way you can make a more solid gain vs a watery gain from just D-bol. Something like 40/40 of each everyday. Just taking orals on workout days will just have your blood levels all fucked up.

I'm not afraid of needles. I'm talking about running it with Test and other injectables as part of a cycle. Might help keep your liver from getting too stressed (the liver can regnerate itself).

 

[Mrpumped]

Your liver will not be too stressed unless you use high doses for long periods of time. If your just using it for a kickstart you will not stress your liver in 4-5 weeks in a way to be overly concerned about. What others, including myself have done, is use small doses for up to 10-12 weeks with some Tylers Liver Detox. Something like 25mg/ed with injectables.

 

[Parm]

Agree with Mr Pumped!

 

[jmead]

i dont really see how only taking it on workout days and only before and after workout would be beneficial, isnt the main point to keep the levels as constant as you can in your system? why do you think you only feel/see results from orals after 3-4 days of constant use?

im only halfway over the fence on this one

 

[Nelson Montana]

I think a few people are misunderstanding the principle here. The idea is to have a consistant level of gear and then use the orals as an ADDITION at times when they're utilized to the utmost.

It also isn't meant to be a "this is the best thing to do" theory either. It's just another potential procedure based in logic.

I can't imagine how taking some orals along with your regular stack could NOT be benificial. As to how much, no one can say. But that's the case with lots of things.

 

[worldclass]

The purpose of esters is to keep even blood levels of the drug. The entire medical community understands that spiking levels up and down every day is what causes most side effect to worsen or even appear in the first place. Useing any oral only on training days is a terrible idea that would never be appropriate under any circumstances. It dramatically increases you chances of side effects from the steroids.

Nelson it's just amazing people read your stuff and follow it. Sometimes you're just dangerous.

 

[Mrpumped]

The purpose of esters is to keep even blood levels of the drug. The entire medical community understands that spiking levels up and down every day is what causes most side effect to worsen or even appear in the first place. Useing any oral only on training days is a terrible idea that would never be appropriate under any circumstances. It dramatically increases you chances of side effects from the steroids.

Nelson it's just amazing people read your stuff and follow it. Sometimes you're just dangerous.

I agree.