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Leather Neck

Leather Neck

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So took my first shot today sust 250mg and deca 200mg used a 25G 1 inch in the delt, I shit you not it was like pushing cement into my arm, so my first time using deca and I'm wondering if I need a thicker gauge or if deca needs a larger muscle. Never had this issue with test, I really though I was going to snap the plunger. Any help?
 
for the delt, you would want the 25 like you are using... 23 1.5 for the quad... delts are just harder to pin bro... its a much smaller muscle area and depending on how many cc's you are pumping in them... fuck, i put almost 3.5 cc's on some of my delt injections with prop as part of it bro... it takes some pushing but after a few times its not too bad...
 
I use 25g 5/8" for my shoulders and I think that's fine for that muscle group. The issue here is not as much that 25g is too small, but delts being a particularly awkward muscle group to inject into.
Deca is not more dense than test (to my knowledge, and I use both) and the fact that a 25g forces you to inject slowly plays in your favor anyway.
 
This is what works for me bro
Delt 1" 25g
Quad 1.5" 21g

The delt is harder for most people. I have a lot of ink, so after a prop cycle I know exactly what tattoos to hit lol

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Warm the oil first to reduce the viscosity. I never use larger than 25g1in in delts/quads/glutes, and 29g1/2in slin pins everywhere else. I make all my gear with GSO and some with EO so it's very thin and easy to push. Don't use a cannon in your delt, you'll regret it! Just warm the oil and take your time!
 
ppgfreak said:
This is what works for me bro
Delt 1" 25g
Quad 1.5" 21g

The delt is harder for most people. I have a lot of ink, so after a prop cycle I know exactly what tattoos to hit lol

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What?
Quads you use a 1.5" 21 guage?
ok
Maybe you should try a 1" and either a 23 or 25 guage...
Little easier on the muscle.
 
I'll try a 23 just to fuck around with it and see if that helps, also good call on heating the oil, I just find the delta better for me, I feel more stable injecting and I've yet to find any pain in any of my past cycles.
 
Leather Neck said:
So took my first shot today sust 250mg and deca 200mg used a 25G 1 inch in the delt, I shit you not it was like pushing cement into my arm, so my first time using deca and I'm wondering if I need a thicker gauge or if deca needs a larger muscle. Never had this issue with test, I really though I was going to snap the plunger. Any help?
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Try a 23g...also run it under some warm water a few minutes before you pin to help it pass easier.
 
I have never had a problem using 23g...never tried running it under warm water, but may try just for shits and giggles.

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Ok dudes took my shot today, stuck with the 25G 1in but I ran it under warm water for about 30 seconds, good fucking calls guys worked pisser. You guys are the balls.
 
Leather Neck said:
Ok dudes took my shot today, stuck with the 25G 1in but I ran it under warm water for about 30 seconds, good fucking calls guys worked pisser. You guys are the balls.
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You ran the barrel of the syringe under water to heat the oil, not the actual needle?


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goin on 4T said:
You ran the barrel of the syringe under water to heat the oil, not the actual needle?


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I would think so...why would you want to heat up a metal needle that is going to penetrate your skin? That would seriously hurt! It is to heat up oil to make it easier to pass through the needle.

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Yeah and the needle is no longer sterile.


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goin on 4T said:
Yeah and the needle is no longer sterile.


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So I am assuming you run it under the water only trying to hit the barrel and change to a new sterile needle for injection? Too much hassle lol, I will stick with my 23g.

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muscleaddiction said:
So I am assuming you run it under the water only trying to hit the barrel and change to a new sterile needle for injection? Too much hassle lol, I will stick with my 23g.

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I use 25's and don't heat the oil.


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muscleaddiction said:
Use an 18-20g and call it a day! How about a turkey injection syringe lol.

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That makes my shoulder hurt thinking about it. In my young/dumb days we could only get some 18's and tren a. Pushed in easy! Helped get those big chunks in too. Haha

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Leather Neck said:
Drew it with a 23 warmed the barrel then put on a fresh 25, an 18 in my delt huh? Not all marines are crazy you know.
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Hoorah!!! Was just playing...although have used a 20g for injectable Winny and Test Suspension due to the 23g would clog during injection and couldn't get it to go, so used a bigger needle that wouldn't clog...and yes that 20g felt wonderful...not!

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Soulthief said:
That makes my shoulder hurt thinking about it. In my young/dumb days we could only get some 18's and tren a. Pushed in easy! Helped get those big chunks in too. Haha

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No pain no gain!!!

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muscleaddiction said:
So I am assuming you run it under the water only trying to hit the barrel and change to a new sterile needle for injection? Too much hassle lol, I will stick with my 23g.

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I have an electric heating pad that I fold over my syringes before injecting, flows like water
 
I've been using 20G one inch for delt, no severe complaints. Just preference, what I get from wok. & usually 2CC into delt. It is HELL to aspirate though, lol.
 
With a fucking 20guage?

You can't hold a syringe 100% steady, especially in your delts. Wiggling that sword of a pin around in your muscle only creates more scar tissue over time.

My doctor doesn't aspirate, neither does yours, neither does his, and neither do I.
 
Guess it's all about prefrance, I can't pin in my quad due to an injury but the 25 with slightly heated oil seems to be working nicely
 
If you don't aspirate you stand the chance of pushing into a capillary or even worst vein. Every muscle has at least one artery, one vein, & a half dozen nerves running through it. I haven't cycled for years, but been in the Rx field for years. Safety first..but just my opinion. 0___Oo
 
bigbassturd said:
With a fucking 20guage?

You can't hold a syringe 100% steady, especially in your delts. Wiggling that sword of a pin around in your muscle only creates more scar tissue over time.

I can see the excess scar tissue build up, I usually use my roommate to pin my delts in the past & "cross rotate" to the quads. So ideal size for quad is 1.5?
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Those stories of people injecting into veins are internet horror stories bro...you aren't going to be able to push thick oil into a capillary and if you know where to properly pin, you won't be near an artery or vein.

I use 1 inchers in my delts and 1.5's in my glutes and quads
 
That should have been thin and in EO oil, could have used a 29 or 31 guage 1/2" needle.
 
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