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Need help getting started with cycle

I've so far payed for tren ethamante and test ethamante and cabar for anti estrogen. .I'd like info advice exactly how to use this most effectively and if anything else is needed. .my goals are to lose and shred weight and turn fat into lean muscle ..I'm a bigger boned person with extra baggage that I have to get rid of..I've been working out pushing to new limits and I fear that I've came to a stand still ..I've done a cycle in the past I have no history of any side affects ..I'm 6'2 height and 258 weight ..id like to speak with someone privately to..thanks in advance to anyone who participates in this thread and look forward to any advice..I'll check back to this thread daily
 
1# dont use tren for many cycles its pretty harsh
2# first cycle = Test only if your smart, with an AI like arimidex
3# caber is NOT even an AI....
4# where is your AI for test?
5# where is your PCT for recovery?
6# dont use AAS with high body fat, it will cause you MORE side effects and risk. higher BF can also lead to more estrogen conversion.
7# do you know the diff between a SERM (clomid and tamox for eg) and an AI ( letro, dex and so on)
8# you shold not be doing cycles at this point, nore should you have

no offence but you have a heck of alot of more research to do before buying or doing anything or you are likely going to hurtyourself. spend a few months researching.

good luck
 
j_p, have you heard of priming? I read and was told that so called big boned guys should use it before any cycle. It's apparently taking clomid, Nolvadex, and or hcg. I think the principal is to lower ones estrogen levels so while working out they lose fat quicker and can get some gains. All before starting a cycle. I've been trying to look some of this up and research it but really not that much info. Have you heard of this?
 
Not that I'm trying to give lucky 515 any advice over yours. Just thought the question was appropriate for what he's asking.
 
Thank you all for info and advice..some was more harsh that I thought would be..in my mind I was ready and well aware of my lack of knowledge this why I joined this great forum. .I don't want to be discouraged here at all..ive got so much of that allready ..I know this had to be done correctly ..and I HAVE NOT STARTED A CYCLE YET ..and no to comment above I have not heard of that. .I've been working out my entire life .other than the lack of knowledge I'm ready for this...and to the gentleman above I will start test only..and to everyone else that gave advice thank you very much and I promise to research more before going on..but I have bought what I said allready ..I will read up and search on all tbis for sure. .I know I'm not pose to relie on someone to just do research for me .guess lazily I was looking for step by step directions and know exactly what you guys thought I should do I filled out my profile if anyone wants take a look..I'm going threw divorce right now and I'm very motivated .I'm at a stand still on workouts meaning feels like getting no where ..same weight and size even though working out daily..to give me head start I if anyone got some direct links to threads I could read after work ..and I don't know the differences between those steroids the guy asked me..but I have started reading threw threads with those names mentioned..in "getasneedass " thread. ..in read in thread caber was cheaper version of an anti estrogen ..in read that in this forum a thread I'm subscribe to..unless I just read it wrong. .
 
Cabers more expensive than most ais I think without the tren you won't need the caber, test only looks good for you. send the tren here, I'll dispose of it :D
 
Hey mate use the search box to search for "first cycle"
And "The perfect PCT " and "AI" You Will learn heaps, I actually did the same thing nearly a decade ago, then use this thread to ask new questions as you get stumped.
This is a brother hood mate bros here to help and give tough love to some times but it's all for good.

Brad.
 
Ok I will do..got to admit it did hurt a little finding out how much I didn't know..and I will use that searchbox ..thanks for letting me know where to start
 
Has anyone ever heard of priming ??..it's meant for heavy set men to lower estrogen levels ..I've read clen is a good weight loss pill ..need my total body fat % but don't know how people get this info
 
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