Need advice on my second cycle

[Derenzo]

I mainly train for strength and want to get as strong as possible while still looking good

My first cycle was:
Test-e 1-12 500
Dbol 1-6 30
nolva 14-17

Got awesome gains but now for my second cycle I want to lower my fat percentage while keeping all my strength and mass and maybe even gain some. What would you guys recommend?

 

[infraredline]

I mainly train for strength and want to get as strong as possible while still looking good

My first cycle was:
Test-e 1-12 500
Dbol 1-6 30
nolva 14-17

Got awesome gains but now for my second cycle I want to lower my fat percentage while keeping all my strength and mass and maybe even gain some. What would you guys recommend?

Your pct is crap to start with since nolvadex belongs in the toilet

Also I wouldn't run dbol longer then 4 weeks, an alternative though that you could run for 6 is tbol

If you wanna run a cycle with dbol:
1-12 test e 500mg (250mg Monday 250mg Thursday)
1-4 dbol 30mg
1-12 aromasin 12.5mg eod (if needed go to ed)

If with tbol:
1-12 test e 500mg (250mg Monday 250mg Thursday)
1-6 tbol 60mg ed
1-12 aromasin 12.5mg eod (if needed go to ed)

Pct:
10-14 1000iu hcg per week (500iu Monday 500iu Thursday)
13-18 formastanzol
15-18 clomid 25mg ed
15-18 post cycle unleashed combo
15-18 d-aspartic acid

You could also run ostarine (MK-2866) if you wanted to preserve strength gains, it be run as such

13-20 ostarine 15mg ed

 

[notjake11]

Your pct is crap to start with since nolvadex belongs in the toilet

Also I wouldn't run dbol longer then 4 weeks, an alternative though that you could run for 6 is tbol

If you wanna run a cycle with dbol:
1-12 test e 500mg (250mg Monday 250mg Thursday)
1-4 dbol 30mg
1-12 aromasin 12.5mg eod (if needed go to ed)

If with tbol:
1-12 test e 500mg (250mg Monday 250mg Thursday)
1-6 tbol 60mg ed
1-12 aromasin 12.5mg eod (if needed go to ed)

Pct:
10-14 1000iu hcg per week (500iu Monday 500iu Thursday)
13-18 formastanzol
15-18 clomid 25mg ed
15-18 post cycle unleashed combo
15-18 d-aspartic acid

You could also run ostarine (MK-2866) if you wanted to preserve strength gains, it be run as such

13-20 ostarine 15mg ed

Actually the osta can be run for 12 weeks total - four weeks of PCT into an 8 week run of SARMs afterwards as a bridge and add in S4 at that time.

15-26 Osta 25mg/day
19-26 S4 50mg/day

 

[buddhabuilder]

infraredline's layout is looking spot on here. I would include N2Guard during the orals, and HCGenerate weeks 4-9.

 

[infraredline]

Oops I forgot about a liver guard haha
For the cycle with tbol:
1-6 organ shield by purus labs

For the dbol cycle:
1-4 organ shield by purus labs

 

[NegroPops]

Dbol > Tbol

 

[joeblow12345]

The above layouts are fine but if you want a little more bang then I suggest adding in 2 injectables with 2 orals. Id go

1-10 test p 75 mg eod
1-10 npp 150 eod
1-4 dbol 50 mg day
1-4 n2guard
8-14 var 60-100 mg day(up to you)
8-14 n2guard
6-10 hcgenerate
10-14 hcg
1-14 adex or aromasin


Pct 14-18
Clomid 25 mg day
Forged methyl or pc/ unleashed
Forma
Daa( with pc/ unleashed)
Igf lr3 50 mcg day( optional but great)

18-22 bridge and dspark