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I know a guy who competes and seems to be very knowledgable on dieting. We are both about the same size he's 5'8" around 245 and I'm 5'11" about 250. Thing is, he definitely looks thicker than I. I know it has something to do with the height difference and maybe even bone structure. But part of it has to do with the new lean mass he's just recently put on. See, he just finished a contest and had that rebound effect. Said he put on 30lbs. in 2 weeks, while I know a lot of this is just water and glycogen reentering the muscles, he was off everything (he said he was) and when he hit his old off-season weight he was leaner than before. So he gained a substancial amount of weight naturally. He said that so many people limit their potential because they don't diet down. Does your body really go into anabolic overdrive when coming of a diet? I mean, I've dieted before, you know drop 10-15lbs. then start back bulking again. Kind of just to get back to the bf% I was at before so I don't get to fat. But he said it's different when you diet as if you're going to do a show, you have to get shredded before you can rebound and realize these gains. I always thought that you should put mass on first to speed up your metabolism, which in turn will help you burn more fat when you're ready to do your contest diet. I'd like to try it but I don't want to diet down and not realize the gains when I could be putting on more mass.
He also said that although fat is needed in the diet that is primarily for people with less than 10% bf. That people with more bf already have the fat their body needs and that person should keep fat to a minimum and feed only on protein and carbs, while dieting or bulking. then bring fat back in as you get in the <10% range. To me this sounds strange because I thought dietary fat did not make you fat, I thought it was the carbs. I mean, look at the low fat, high carbs trend in the 80s-90s. Everyone was getting FAT, not PHAT. Anyway, I thought I had this whole thing semi-understood, now I'm just confused again. I saw pictures of this guy in contest shape and he was shredded and got first. And, I don't think he would purposely mislead me, he's seems very genuine (maybe I'm just too trusting). But, he offered to help me through out the diet, right up to the end.
So, to reiterate:
1) Does a contest diet cause a huge gain of lean muscle mass when normal feeding is resumed? Not just the carb load that makes you feel huge and swole, but actual new lean muscle mass, with out using gear.
2) Do bodybuilders above 10%bf need to consume ample amounts of fat or should they stick to just carbs and protein until they are below 10%?
He also said that although fat is needed in the diet that is primarily for people with less than 10% bf. That people with more bf already have the fat their body needs and that person should keep fat to a minimum and feed only on protein and carbs, while dieting or bulking. then bring fat back in as you get in the <10% range. To me this sounds strange because I thought dietary fat did not make you fat, I thought it was the carbs. I mean, look at the low fat, high carbs trend in the 80s-90s. Everyone was getting FAT, not PHAT. Anyway, I thought I had this whole thing semi-understood, now I'm just confused again. I saw pictures of this guy in contest shape and he was shredded and got first. And, I don't think he would purposely mislead me, he's seems very genuine (maybe I'm just too trusting). But, he offered to help me through out the diet, right up to the end.
So, to reiterate:
1) Does a contest diet cause a huge gain of lean muscle mass when normal feeding is resumed? Not just the carb load that makes you feel huge and swole, but actual new lean muscle mass, with out using gear.
2) Do bodybuilders above 10%bf need to consume ample amounts of fat or should they stick to just carbs and protein until they are below 10%?
