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Natural 19 year old (with PIC)...1st cycle.

Spawn

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I am looking to do my 1st cycle with Primobolan and Winny. I want to pyramid the primo up to 400mg/week for 8 weeks and the Winny at 50mg every other day.

Please tell me what you think of the cycle and my pic. I want to also thank Macro and 300kleen for the support.

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You look like you work hard. Do you play any sports? As for the cycle, I think it is a good idea but you will need to get plenty of protein in order to grow well on them.

You look proportioned and nicely cut. You just need some mass...about 20-30 pounds and you will be tight. Now remember that it should take a few years to get that big, so don't rush it.
 
I think you look good, bro, but I do think you are a bit skinny. Thus, if I were you, I would go for a mass cycle. You're already pretty cut, but you need a lot of size in the arms, shoulders, and especially in the legs. You have very good shape though. Good luck and keep us posted.
 
This will add some meat to those bones:

Week-----PRIMO-----SUST-------DBOL---
1----------300mg-----500mg----25mg
2----------300mg-----500mg----25mg
3----------300mg-----500mg----25mg
4----------300mg-----500mg----25mg
5----------300mg-----500mg----25mg
6----------300mg-----500mg------------
7----------300mg-----500mg------------
8----------300mg-----500mg------------
9----------300mg---------------------------
10--------300mg-----------------------------
 
SPAWN, i did the exact same cycle, except i did 400 mg's per week for 9 weeks straight, with 50 mg winny eod for 6 and a half weeks. I gained very little on it (about 5 pounds) nohthing that i wouldn't have gained without it. So you should consider using something like dbol or sust. I did however gain an assload of strength...my shoulder press went from 280 to 335, my flat bench from 365 to 410, and squat from 505 to 550. All that with only 5 pounds of weight gain...incredible. I attribute it all to the winny. Winny is the best drug out there...I haven't done anything else, so I'm full of shit, but with such low doses of winny, and that much strength increase, you can't match it. Oh yeah, after the cycle I was able to dunk too (at six feet tall), whereas before I could only grab rim. Summary, winny is great, drop the primo. Go winny and dbol or winny and omna/sust, or deca and winny, or dbol, and deca, or omna/sust and dbol. Any of those will be great for you. PRIMO IS GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY.

-BEEFY
 
You look good Bro! I would go with Sust/D-bol/EQ like Roidranger said. You need more mass and that cycle will put alot of mass on you.

Good Luck!!
 
My stats are:

6' tall and 185 pounds. I am a naturally lean guy but pretty strong. My arms are 15" (cold) and 24" thighs (cold). My waist is 28".
 
Hey man - I'll be honest I'm impressed, not bad for a "natural." I'm naturally thin too so I understand it's hard work. Hey, don't forget the legs, they look out of proportion (but it might just be the pic). IF NOT GET UNDER THAT SQUAT RACK.... You'll blow up real soon! Good luck on cycle number 1!!!
 
Hey man, you aren't skinny at all.

I would take 180lbs ripped over 220lbs big and smooth any day.

I used to be a big time "Get bloated up and look huge guy" until I started my current cycle of Fina/winny/clenbuteral/t3. I look better than I ever have in my whole lifetime.

However, you are so lean now that I would advise you to throw some test prop in the picture for size.

If not test then get a strong androgen.
If you can find some fina I would definetly suggest that, I am taking 70mg of fina every other day, and 50mg of winny every day and LOVE IT.



:angel:
 
Don't listen to these guys with the sustanon, DBol shit. You look great and obviously have great genetics if you have gotten this far naturally and are only 19. Stay away from the test. If you listen to these guys, you will look like a water balloon, and not to mention pimply. If i were you, go with the EQ, Deca, Primo cycle. Just incorporate two of them, yoiu don't have to do all three. I'm not gonna get into how to cycle it, but thats all you really need. You aren't going to get laid looking all pimply and bloated. That look is out bro. Lean and ripped is all you need. Don't subject yourself to test and that "dirty" shit if you don't have to. Although many will disagree with me, that s my Op.
 
on your first cycle go with the SUST 250 you will be happy and not every one gets pimply .Every one is deferent and reacts differant to the test .And it depends on the amount you take .
 
shreaded wheat-

what the hell are you talking about?
Didnt you know the bloat goes away?
Didnt you know that water bloat helps with making gains?
Didnt you know there are ways to prevent acne (B5, tanning, etc)?
Didnt you know that stack I suggested would probly give him around 30lbs for his first cycle?
Dont you think he would be extremely happy?

I did the exact cycle I posted, exept I used deca instead of primo, and i dont look like a bloated pig at all. Sure, for a few weeks I blew up from the dbol, but who cares. My strength and size went through the roof. I resembled him before I started (162-7% bodyfat), and after 2 cycles im holding on to 200lbs, with a 9% bodyfat.

IM MUCH HAPPIER NOW, EVEN THOUGH MY BODYFAT IS SLIGHTLY UP.
 
Suspension, didn't mean to piss you off. Alot of the guys i lift with at the gym take test and so forth and look like shit. Sloppy as shit. It seems like they bloat up and lose it when they come off, not to mention so pimply, they can't even wear a wife-beater without embarrasment. Maybe they cycle it wrong, i don't know. If you got great gains and and happy with them, more power to you. Kepp it up. I say everyones genetics are different. Just voiced my opinion, no biggie.
 
You look good bro:cool: Very lean. I think that would be a solid cycle and you should be able to put on some quality muscle while maintaining the very low body fat % Keep the protein high as well. If you need any advice or help you can e-mail me anytime. Best of luck!

M18
 
DON'T DO IT MAN!!!

Just fucking with you dude ;) ... when I was checking out your pic, my girlfriend walks by and sees it and asks me what your stats are. I tell her you're 19 and natural and are looking to do your first cycle. She says "No! Tell him not to, he's already muscular!" There you have it man... she's the boss :( ! Seriously though, looking good... a friend of mine's doing almost the exact same cycle. He started off with Winny eod and Primo @ 400mg/week. After 3 weeks he said he was just losing fat and getting more defined. Then, he threw in Sust @ 250mg/week, and now he's growing like a weed. Guess it all depends on your goals...
 
Spawn-I think you should let us know what your goal is. How much wieght do you want to put on??? With your choice of primo and winny it seems to me you just want 5-8 solid pounds of LBM. If so, you will be happy with this cycle. You are only 19 and have a very good foundation and symmitry. I have alot of friends with your body and were very dissapointed with a heavy test cycle made them look like. Just ask italian sweetness if you see him post. He regreted the sust cycle he did. Good luck:D
---PEACE---Mad Max
 
shreaded-

yeah i agree with you there. if you DONT know what your doing, you will end up looking like shit, but that goes for any cycle. I also know a few bro's who lost almost all their gains (no clomid, lol).

each to his own...

no flame bro.
 
No need to thank me Spawn. You're the one doing all of the hard work. I'm just supplying the advice, what you do with it is your call.

I wish you all the success that you are looking for bro!:p :D :)
 
I dont know yall, I had horrible results with test when I took it, and I was only doing 200mg of Test. Enthan. a week. I mean I was going light, but I looked like a water ballon. Just like someone said, and I continued to look that way for 3 or 4 months after my cycle. And, I realize that it is genetics, and that some people are different than others and I was just a wierd case. I will give you another example of how I am different. I did a cycle of Dbol/Winstrol and I gained probably 5 pounds and saw no aromitization or acne, or water weight or anything. BTW I went heavy on the Dbol and really light on the Winstrol. So my body reacted different with the Dbol than it was supposed to. But with my experiences with test, I would never take the crap again. Ever. One more thing, got gyno on my light cycle of test(while taking Arimidex).
 
Well, I'm looking to add some solid mass for this cycle but in the long run I want to be massive. Somewhere around 230-250.


I appreciate all of the help!


Spawn
 
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