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My upcoming peptide protocol

RottenWillow

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Ok ladies I'm planning to run a peptide protocol as a personal experiment beginning around October 5 and plan to detail my observations here.

Materials:

a)Ipamorelin
b)Mod GRF (1-29)


Protocol:

100mcg, subcutaneous injection of each, bedtime, 8 week duration


Reasoning/Expectations

I chose this stack because Ipamorelin is the most selective of the GHRP's, meaning it triggers far less release of other hormones (like cortisol and prolactin) from the pituitary, and Mod GRF (1-29)does a better job of simulating the natural GH wave pattern than the far more popular CJC-1295.

For this first 8 week trial I'm looking primarily for the deep, restful sleep this stack is said to offer. That alone should measurably improve recovery time between workouts.

If all goes well I plan to triple my total dose of each to 300mcg daily. That pattern would be 150mcg of each, mornings in addition to bedtime. At that point I would be looking for the anti-catabolic and synergistic effect the gh boost would add to a anabolic cycle.
 
I'm looking forward to tracking it as well Willow. I've been doing a lot of reading on the peptides lately so will be following along!
 
Roxy722 said:
I'm looking forward to tracking it as well Willow. I've been doing a lot of reading on the peptides lately so will be following along!
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It will certainly be uncharted territory for me, Rox. I'm starting slow to discover how Ipamorelin and GRF Mod will effect me before diving in with both feet.
 
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right now i'm being a lab rat for the new Ostro SARMS.......so look out if i start growling or grunting!:)
 
RottenWillow said:
Ok ladies I'm planning to run a peptide protocol as a personal experiment beginning around October 5 and plan to detail my observations here.

Materials:

a)Ipamorelin
b)Mod GRF (1-29)


Protocol:

100mcg, subcutaneous injection of each, bedtime, 8 week duration


Reasoning/Expectations

I chose this stack because Ipamorelin is the most selective of the GHRP's, meaning it triggers far less release of other hormones (like cortisol and prolactin) from the pituitary, and Mod GRF (1-29)does a better job of simulating the natural GH wave pattern than the far more popular CJC-1295.

For this first 8 week trial I'm looking primarily for the deep, restful sleep this stack is said to offer. That alone should measurably improve recovery time between workouts.

If all goes well I plan to triple my total dose of each to 300mcg daily. That pattern would be 150mcg of each, mornings in addition to bedtime. At that point I would be looking for the anti-catabolic and synergistic effect the gh boost would add to a anabolic cycle.
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According to the tracking info my gear is out for delivery to my house as I post. :dance2:

Dropped the ball on ordering the bacteriostatic water though so I'll be delayed a couple of days on starting. Hoping to start Friday.
 
thelocal said:
did u start yet?
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I did 100mcg of Ipamorelin last night. Held off on the Mod GRF (1-29) for the first day. Got a bit of a dizzy,swimmy headed feeling. Slept like poo last night, but since it was my first shot I can't say if I'm one of the unlucky few that sleep worse on GHRP's. I'm thinking about trying one more bedtime shot today, then if the insomnia is a problem again, switch to AM doses.
 
me and the wife are rolling the cjc1295.. Instead of GH for 6 months.. The wife didn't care for the bloat from GH even at 1iu..
 
I`m definitely following along Willow. It`s fascinating stuff and something I need to keep learning about.
 
I did 100mcg of both Ipamorelin and Mod GRF (1-29) this morning about 30 minutes after rising. The Mod GRF amplifies and extends the GH release that is started by the Ipamorelin (the GHRP). This is really Day 1, as it is the first time I'm taking both together as intended. Tuesday night was really a test.


The dizzy feeling was not as pronounced this time, but as I figured would occur when I added the Mod GRF, it lasted much longer. This time I'd just call it an almost pleasant sort of mild head rush. I noticed it for about 1.5 hours, then it diminished.

One of the major positive effects of inducing a greater growth hormone release is better sleep. Seems like once I get through that mild dizzy phase I do get the good sleep benefit, because I came home from work feeling pleasantly snoozey and napped like a baby. I woke up from my nap feeling fricking awesome. Really noticeable sensation of well being.

I dropped out the Bridge about a week ago so I would be able to discern the effects of just my peptide. I forget about this plan though and took two Bridge caps about 2:30pm today with my first meal. (remember I do the IF thing, no food until afternoon). I think the testosterone release caused by the herbs in Bridge had a synergistic effect with the GH release induced by my peptides because when I came home from work I was also uncharacteristically horny. Bridge has historically been good for my sex drive....but not that good. And never such a immediate response.
 
Wow....I just CANNOT take this stuff at bedtime as recommended. Stuff woke me up several times last night.


So the two really prime times for the pituitary to release GH is when we sleep and beginning about 30 minutes after a weight training workout. I tried running the Ipamorelin by itself at bedtime my first night and didn't sleep well. Not horrible, just not great. Two night ago I really wanted to do the full protocol, 100mcg of both Ipamorelin and Mod GRF (1-29) at bedtime as that is one of the two big natural release times and it would be more beneficial than taking it first thing in the morning like I've been running it.

But OMG not 30 minutes after I fell asleep the first GH pulse released and snapped me wide awake. Some time later another pulse released and...BING...instantly wide awake again. This happened a total of 3-4 times during the night. The purpose of the Mod GRF is to amplify the pulse triggered by the Ipamorelin. It does. Morning came and I felt pretty much like crud.
 
Held off on saying this until I was sure. I am definitely recovering a bit faster now from one workout to the next. This is without adding supplements, additional protein, or running any sort of gear. Actually I'm getting less sleep than normal, as the peps disturb my sleep when I take then a bedtime, so the improvement in recovery is particularly noteworthy.

Also, I had nagging pain just to the left of my right shoulder blade in the rhombs left over from an injury a month ago that I realized finally resolved once I was about 5-6 days into this cycle. Better living through chemistry ladies....it's nice.

I'm reordering next Friday (payday) and will ramp up to 100mcg of each 2x daily, with a third dose on workout days. Around the first of December thinking about adding either sub-q or transdermal DHEA to the stack along with something more purely anabolic like Oxandrolone.
 
Hey Willow and all, following along here and this is my limited exp on GHRP -6. Like you RW I dont get the sleep that I expected on the pep. It goes like this for me. I shoot just before I go to bed and take 750mg Gabba. I am dead for 30-60 min. Then I sleep off and on for the rest of the night. I can deal with this for awhile as this is how I slept before the pep. Just thought it interesting that you dont get the good sleep effect that so many others say they get.
 
zedhed said:
Hey Willow and all, following along here and this is my limited exp on GHRP -6. Like you RW I dont get the sleep that I expected on the pep. It goes like this for me. I shoot just before I go to bed and take 750mg Gabba. I am dead for 30-60 min. Then I sleep off and on for the rest of the night. I can deal with this for awhile as this is how I slept before the pep. Just thought it interesting that you dont get the good sleep effect that so many others say they get.
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That's really interesting to hear that your experience is similar too with the sleep. I'd go nuts after about a week of poor sleep. Do you notice any positives??
 
zedhed said:
Hey Willow and all, following along here and this is my limited exp on GHRP -6. Like you RW I dont get the sleep that I expected on the pep. It goes like this for me. I shoot just before I go to bed and take 750mg Gabba. I am dead for 30-60 min. Then I sleep off and on for the rest of the night. I can deal with this for awhile as this is how I slept before the pep. Just thought it interesting that you dont get the good sleep effect that so many others say they get.
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What I've read elsewhere during my personal research is that those of us that do not enjoy the great sleep on GH releasing peps supposedly have other issues causing some degree of insomnia. Depending on the actual cause of the insomnia, increased GH release can actually make it worse. That was my experience.

You can possibly entrain your pituitary to respond to the amino string with a good GH release if you continue to take it at the same time every day, even if it's a time of day when a significant GH release doesn't normally occur. That's the speculation anyway. I've been shooting 150mcg of Ipamorelin and 150mcg of Modified GRF (1-29) first thing when I rise for a few weeks now. I'm seeing the effects of a significant GH release during the first part of my day, even though morning is not a time of day the body normally releases a lot of GH.
 
That is pretty much what I am trying to achieve. I feel that I am getting some success with it and am planning to continue however with the addidion of CJC-1295 less Dac. The primary reason for my beginning the peps is anti aging and injury (rehab). At this point I am feeling the rehab effect even without the CJC-1295. I expect that with the CJC-1295 that will be amplified. My protocol at that time will be pretty much the same as Willows, with 2 exceptions. I will not ramp up and will shoot 2x/day, after cardio or workout and befor bed.
So in answer to your question Roxy, a big yes there are positives even this early in my therapy. Shoulders and knees significantly less painful and I just feel better overall which is nice cuz I thought I felt pretty good prior to my therapy. I do feel rested in the a.m. and dont have any prob getting out of bed. Also I do not have the urge to take a nap in the afternoon.
 
zedhed said:
That is pretty much what I am trying to achieve. I feel that I am getting some success with it and am planning to continue however with the addidion of CJC-1295 less Dac. The primary reason for my beginning the peps is anti aging and injury (rehab). At this point I am feeling the rehab effect even without the CJC-1295. I expect that with the CJC-1295 that will be amplified. My protocol at that time will be pretty much the same as Willows, with 2 exceptions. I will not ramp up and will shoot 2x/day, after cardio or workout and befor bed.
So in answer to your question Roxy, a big yes there are positives even this early in my therapy. Shoulders and knees significantly less painful and I just feel better overall which is nice cuz I thought I felt pretty good prior to my therapy. I do feel rested in the a.m. and dont have any prob getting out of bed. Also I do not have the urge to take a nap in the afternoon.
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You might really want to investigate Modified GRF as a better choice than CJC-1295. The latter triggers an unnatural smaller, frequent pulse, whereas Mod GRF (1-29) simulates the less frequent bigger pulse our pituitary generates naturally when we're in puberty. Running CJC for relatively short periods of time isn't a problem. It's running it longterm for antiaging that can eventually cause pituitary problems.
 
RottenWillow said:
You might really want to investigate Modified GRF as a better choice than CJC-1295. The latter triggers an unnatural smaller, frequent pulse, whereas Mod GRF (1-29) simulates the less frequent bigger pulse our pituitary generates naturally when we're in puberty. Running CJC for relatively short periods of time isn't a problem. It's running it longterm for antiaging that can eventually cause pituitary problems.
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Forgive me for all my questions you guys...learning about peptides for me, is like learning a new language!! Willow, your comment is something I have wondered about...if you use any of these for anti aging reasons, is it something you have to then continue to use long term? Do the effects stop once you stop using?
 
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Roxy722 said:
Forgive me for all my questions you guys...learning about peptides for me, is like learning a new language!! Willow, you comment is something I have wondered about...if you use any of these for anti aging reasons, is it something you have to then continue to use long term? Do the effects stop once you stop using?
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No. At 27 I can't say I've seen much age related wear and tear yet. I'm running it primarily for the synergistic effects with anabolics and injury repair and prevention.

Regarding anti-aging, you'd want to take it perpetually if you are looking for those effects. GH heals tissue. All sorts of things we think of as being simply unavoidable signs of aging are really about tissue not being effectively repaired anymore. The dose would not need to be as high, but would need to be perpetual. The "effect" in this case would be mitigation of the aging process. So if you d/c'ed the peptides you wouldn't fall apart, but rather would just stop enjoying the slowed (or even reversed) signs of aging.
 
RottenWillow said:
No. At 27 I can't say I've seen much age related wear and tear yet. I'm running it primarily for the synergistic effects with anabolics and injury repair and prevention.

Regarding anti-aging, you'd want to take it perpetually if you are looking for those effects. GH heals tissue. All sorts of things we think of as being simply unavoidable signs of aging are really about tissue not being effectively repaired anymore. The dose would not need to be as high, but would need to be perpetual. The "effect" in this case would be mitigation of the aging process. So if you d/c'ed the peptides you wouldn't fall apart, but rather would just stop enjoying the slowed (or even reversed) signs of aging.
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Thanks for the info Willow! I appreciate it. :)
 
Thanks for the advice/update Willow. Much appreciation and will follow up on that.:)
 
So like I mentioned previously the Modified GRF 1-29 amplifies the GH release triggered by the Ipamorelin. The last 4 days I bumped the GRF dose up to about 200mcg and jeebus am I hungry.

Clearly the pulse is bigger now. I can control the hunger (barely) but I find I am looking for something to eat often. I steer myself towards fibrous, relatively low calorie foods in an attempt to fill myself up. It doesn't really work. :) The hunger is pretty much constant.

There's a guy on another board who's wife is experiencing the same gonzo hunger at the same dose, so beware. This combo does seem to trigger more hunger in women than men. A good bulker stack, but anything above 100mcg of GRF not so good for cutting.
 
Planning to run a short term IGF-1 cycle in December to test it's much celebrated healing effects. I've got a tweaked ham that will make a good test subject.
 
Would like to know the results from that RW.
 
Been continuing whth the GHRP-6 stand alone. It def negatively affects my sleep. I decided to shoot earlier in the day to see what happens with that. As long as I shoot before 12:00 noon am all good for sleep. In fact I sleep like a baby. Shoulder pain is all but gone. Just barley there at all. Quite a relief by comparison. Shoulderw were waking me up all thrugh the night, had to live my days kind of around my shoulders. Now back to single arm overhead presses @ 50lbs, PAINLESS! including afterwards.
In time I plan to add Modified GRF -1-29, prolly next order.
 
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zedhed said:
Would like to know the results from that RW.
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Due to Christmas expenses I didn't have the money to start the IGF-1 this month. Have continued with my current peptides, but have bumped the doses.

Running Ipamorelin at 160mcg and Modified GRF (1-29) at about 180mcg, both first thing upon rising. Every time I bump the dose I get an accompanying increase in appetite, but that settles down after about a week or so. I am getting some low grade, recurrent nausea now, which I've learned seems to be related to ghrelin.

Probably will start the IGF-1 the second week of January, 20mcg immediately PWO.
 
Did you ever end up doing this stack girl? If so how'd it end up working out for you?
 
You know what I see I neglected to update my planned regime on this board. I did not do the IGF-1 addition, but rather something else entirely.

Instead of the IGF-1, I added my Ipamorelin and Mod GRF immediately PWO back in January. Still doing my morning doses. Also, for the last 7 weeks or so have been running boldenone, ie. "equipose".
 
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RottenWillow said:
Ok ladies I'm planning to run a peptide protocol as a personal experiment beginning around October 5 and plan to detail my observations here.

Materials:

a)Ipamorelin
b)Mod GRF (1-29)


Protocol:

100mcg, subcutaneous injection of each, bedtime, 8 week duration


Reasoning/Expectations

I chose this stack because Ipamorelin is the most selective of the GHRP's, meaning it triggers far less release of other hormones (like cortisol and prolactin) from the pituitary, and Mod GRF (1-29)does a better job of simulating the natural GH wave pattern than the far more popular CJC-1295.

For this first 8 week trial I'm looking primarily for the deep, restful sleep this stack is said to offer. That alone should measurably improve recovery time between workouts.

If all goes well I plan to triple my total dose of each to 300mcg daily. That pattern would be 150mcg of each, mornings in addition to bedtime. At that point I would be looking for the anti-catabolic and synergistic effect the gh boost would add to a anabolic cycle.
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Bumping for Cutie.
 
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