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My Story, Please advise!

Ziggity

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Not to go into too much detail but here is my story in a nutshell... After feeling really lethargic for a while and a few other symptoms, I went to my Doc to have blood work. It confirmed what I had suspected - low testosterone. My Test levels were 248.

I am in my very early 30's, been working out for 15 years. When I started I weighed about 280lbs at 5'9 “and a half”.... Below average strength. Over the years I worked that into 225lb with a 33 inch waste, 20 something inch bi’s, etc... - all natural.

To say the least, my weight has ALWAYS been a problem. To get it under control takes a massive effort. I have gone up and down quite a few times. The last up was not followed by a down. I just didn’t have it in me. I still lift, but am completely spent after not much time.

I still bench around, at least mid 400's, can rep 225 30 times, dumbbell rows with 180's, etc, but just hit a stone cold wall halfway thru. I knew something was wrong, and that is why I went to have blood work.

My Doc told me I was definitely a candidate for HRT, but really had no explanation on why my levels dropped. Of course my insurance will not cover ANY type of testosterone treatment. I was told that levels these low lead to lots of problems, so I decided to research my own treatment.

That is where I found this site, and found it extremely helpful. I decided on Test En. I was able to score some form a UGL “Gold Star Lab...”. Any comments? It is 300mgs. I was advised that I would feel better with 1cc a week after roughly 2 weeks. I decided on 1.5cc a week, to give me a little more of a jumpstart with some of this extra weight.

I am 3 weeks into this and the sides are way more pronounced then the benefits. My nipple’s are sore and my face is a little puffy and is oily as hell. Also the injections are much more sore then I was led on to believe - but (no pun intended) I can handle that.

I was told that at 300mgs, Ancillaries would be unecessay. Well at 450mg, they must be necessary. After reading these forums I decided to go with AIFM, and it should be here shortly.

Is there anything else I should consider or anything else I should be doing different? ANY input, suggestions, questions, advice is appreciated!
Thanks guys!.

PS - my weight is about 265 right now. Certainly not lean, but not soft.
 
Ziggity said:
Not to go into too much detail but here is my story in a nutshell... After feeling really lethargic for a while and a few other symptoms, I went to my Doc to have blood work. It confirmed what I had suspected - low testosterone. My Test levels were 248.

I am in my very early 30's, been working out for 15 years. When I started I weighed about 280lbs at 5'9 “and a half”.... Below average strength. Over the years I worked that into 225lb with a 33 inch waste, 20 something inch bi’s, etc... - all natural.

To say the least, my weight has ALWAYS been a problem. To get it under control takes a massive effort. I have gone up and down quite a few times. The last up was not followed by a down. I just didn’t have it in me. I still lift, but am completely spent after not much time.

I still bench around, at least mid 400's, can rep 225 30 times, dumbbell rows with 180's, etc, but just hit a stone cold wall halfway thru. I knew something was wrong, and that is why I went to have blood work.

My Doc told me I was definitely a candidate for HRT, but really had no explanation on why my levels dropped. Of course my insurance will not cover ANY type of testosterone treatment. I was told that levels these low lead to lots of problems, so I decided to research my own treatment.

That is where I found this site, and found it extremely helpful. I decided on Test En. I was able to score some form a UGL “Gold Star Lab...”. Any comments? It is 300mgs. I was advised that I would feel better with 1cc a week after roughly 2 weeks. I decided on 1.5cc a week, to give me a little more of a jumpstart with some of this extra weight.

I am 3 weeks into this and the sides are way more pronounced then the benefits. My nipple’s are sore and my face is a little puffy and is oily as hell. Also the injections are much more sore then I was led on to believe - but (no pun intended) I can handle that.

I was told that at 300mgs, Ancillaries would be unecessay. Well at 450mg, they must be necessary. After reading these forums I decided to go with AIFM, and it should be here shortly.

Is there anything else I should consider or anything else I should be doing different? ANY input, suggestions, questions, advice is appreciated!
Thanks guys!.

PS - my weight is about 265 right now. Certainly not lean, but not soft.
if youre inserance would not pay for it at least you could still get a legal script
from your doc.
 
^^^^^ very good point. Pharmacy Grade vs. Gold Star, hmmmmmmm.
 
pentatonic said:
^^^^^ very good point. Pharmacy Grade vs. Gold Star, hmmmmmmm.
Cheaper to go this route, and was also told that this way would be more effective. Don't get me wrong, all though I am taking these cuz my levels are low, I'd like to take the opportuntiy, or aid, to get back in shape. Meant to also ask for suggestions on that, but as u can tell I can be a bit long winded...

Would my sides be less with the cream they were going to prescribe for me? How would the benfits compare?
 
Ziggity said:
Cheaper to go this route, and was also told that this way would be more effective. Don't get me wrong, all though I am taking these cuz my levels are low, I'd like to take the opportuntiy, or aid, to get back in shape. Meant to also ask for suggestions on that, but as u can tell I can be a bit long winded...

Would my sides be less with the cream they were going to prescribe for me? How would the benfits compare?

Chances are yes, because with the Androgel or patches or etc. Your not going to get a prescribed dose of 450mg of test per week. Everyone is different too as far as sides/dosage goes. 450mg of test per week is not HRT in my opinion, it's a cycle in itself.
 
you probably need ancilliries at 300mg also you mught just be prone to gyno
 
ninesecz said:
you probably need ancilliries at 300mg also you mught just be prone to gyno
Well just got home and my AIFM is here.

Hoping that clears these sides up. I did plenty of research before hand but now I am, slightly starting to doubt my choices.

pentatonic - I am aware that 450mg/week is a bit more the HRT, I tried to admit that in previous post. I just weighed "risks and rewards" and felt like this was a good choice.

Anyone have any any other suggestions on any other steps I can take?

I have not noticed many positive changes - increased pumps, increased libido (which is on zero now), etc... Is it still too early (3 1/2 weeks)?
 
yes 3.5 weeks can be a little early depending on you be things should start kicking in pretty good now----myself --at your size think i would be throwing in some tren or winny to cut a little but that is me and being too big is something that will never happen to me-----good luck though with the test levels and your health
 
When using anything you should have all your ancillaries and PCT before you start. With that said I would add nolvadex to the AIFM since your nipples are sore.
 
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