MY PICS - need help losing fat and maybe a bit of leg muscle

[thin]

Hi guys, I Susan I run "The Thin Page" it's a board for people who want to be very thin-- thin is I'm one of the few people there who wants to be muscular and thin. So I'd like to post my pic for comments and se if you guys have any ideas for helping me to real my goals.

my goals:
lose 10 lbs, 7 fat, 3 muscles(ideally from the legs)
increase the gap between the thighs
improve my mile time for 5+ miles
lose remaining fat on arms
get a overall more 'emaciated' look.

My current plan included about 30 miles of running a week- and weights in reps of 8 sets of 4.

I eat between 800-1200 calories a day.

I don't know if you will be able to help... but I thought it'd would be worth a shot!



Susan
http://futurebird.diaryland.com
http://www.futurebird.com/thin

 

[new@gettinbig]

OH MY you are kidding right??? You have nothing to lose!!! You are beyond thin...Why do you want to look like this? and why would you want to lose any muscle off of your body?? I once did all the starving deal and cardio for days and it produces nothing but an unhealthy body. You put yourself at risk for so many things that you may not think about now..because you may think it wont happen to you. You need muscle on your body..you can actually lower your bodyfat % if you acquire more lean mass on your body..having lean tissue will help you prevent osteoporosis..which you will be well on your way to if you dont change your nutrition and lifestyle..it also helps prevent heart disease...diabetes...arthritis pain..back pain..and so on..this is not the way to do it..nor will you ever be satisfied with the way you look...if you want a firm and tight body you have to FEED your body and lift weights...it wont come from eating a salad and running 20 miles a day..you will lose weight...you will lose fat but muscle as well..so your bodyfat can actually become higher than when you started..and why would you want that?? You are shooting yourself in the foot..

Eating 6 times a day and incorporating some strength training will NOT make you fat...it will only benefit you physically and mentally. In your pictures you look depressed and so unhealthy...this is not something you want to continue with..your legs are tiny...you dont need to lose muscle in your legs!!!! nor do you need to lose anything anywhere.you need to get your ass off a skinny board and wake up before it is too late for you. Why do you want to be so thin? Do you have a role model in mind? It is not attractive nor is it healthy..many that are that thin usually have eating disorders and drug problems..My advice to you is to change your ways now and begin a healthier way of life...you will drive yourself insane and it is only a vicious cycle that keeps repeating itself.

 

[Sassy69]

At the risk of starting another one of "those" threads, the first thing to *really* consider are your goals. Do they make sense or is it just "a look" that you want. If its the "look" that you want, also consider if its something that you want at the expense of your health or going against something that your body naturally wants to do. Consider your own words: "get a overall more 'emaciated' look. " -- Why? What do you hope to accomplish by this? Is this something that will improve the quality of your life? I guess I can't come up with any remotely reasonable answer to that question so I would be interested in your response. I think we could give you a hundred reasons why not to, but the ultimate decision is yours. I would ask that you take a really good look at what you want to accomplish and see if you are convinced that your goals will achieve something good & healthy. "Good" may be something that gives you pride/pleasure, whatever in the short term, but is it ultimately healthy in the long term? What good is "feelign good" (about yourself, or whatever) now, when it just reduces the quality of your life?

I totally support what New@ said.

 

[Gladiola]

Ladies, posted this definition that I found on google.com.
Just a thought...
Knowing what we discuss here on Elite & what we believe (build lean mass, lift, lift, lift), perhaps the below is something to consider...

Troll:
To utter a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from the phrase "trolling for newbies" which in turn comes from mainstream "trolling", a style of fishing in which one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite.

2. n. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1; regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that they have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand - they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a lower form of life on the net, as in, "Oh, ignore him, he's just a troll."

The use of `troll' in either sense is a live metaphor that readily produces elaborations and combining forms. For example, one not infrequently sees the warning "Do not feed the troll" as part of a followup to troll postings.

 

[_mo23]

I agree with the girls, you don't look like you need to lose any weight! I used to be extremely thin, and ended up at the doc once a week for a ton of health problems I had brought on myself. If you know the right things to eat, you can gain muscle and look thin, AND be healthy!!!

 

[thin]

Eating 6 times a day and incorporating some strength training

I do eat 6 times a day. I eat a diet of raw vegtables, fruits and lean meat. (no refined sugars or grains etc.) I eat often too, just no many calories. Also, I do do weights (*mutters read my post...*) I can bench 120 lbs! I like muscle.

There is fat on my body. I'm about %14-16 now, I think I can get it down a little. (I thought I was at 12, but I just had a guy take it again and it is UP! )

get a overall more 'emaciated' look. " -- Why? What do you hope to accomplish by this?

I want to feel good about myself. And like the way I look. If my helth get bad, I guess I'd have to stop-- but so far I feel better than I did before:

So my real question is: how do I recuse the muscle in my legs by just a little? I'm not gonna stop running and fast becuse I like running to much-- also I don't know if stopping with the weights will cause me to have more fat?

Oh well, if you can't help I'll go some place else-- thanks anyway!

Susan
http://futurebird.diaryland.com
http://www.futurebird.com/thin

 

[Raina]

I agree with Sassy and New@. THis makes me especially sad since I've been there. I've been in the hospital on IV's. I've done permanent damage to my body from starving it and from purging. My goal was the same as what you listed and I just about died because of it.

Regardless of how thin I got, it was never enough. I had it in my head that once I got to be a certain size or once I hit a certain weight, that I'd be happy. Well, I'd get to that point and no peace came with it. Anyone with an ed doesn't need a lecture on why it's bad-- it's not like we don't know that, it's a choice.

It took me a long time to come back up to a "healthy" weight. Once I was there I was dissatisfied with my body. I had 2 choice-- start the whole damn cycle again or find something else. Now I'm eating like a mad woman and lifting heavy. Did that scare the hell out of me?? Yes. Is it still hard sometimes?? Yes. It's it worth it?? Yes, more than I can even explain.

Every week my body is healing and growing. I was trim to begin with (being a healthy weight doesn't mean I was fat). Now my body fat is melting off. How ironic that after spending most of my life (since childhood) depriving myself of food trying to be thin, it's the tool that is now working to melt the fat off of me. I can almost gaurantee that a lot of the women on Elite weigh much more than people on your website but have lower body fat.

That's just a little of my experience. I'm not going to give you a "lecture" because I'm assuming that you're a smart woman and know the consequences of what you're doing. I may not agree with your decision, but I've been there so I understand. I've spent most of my life battling with body to look unhealthy. I've done it for a whole hell of a lot of reasons, but the weight never really was one of them. I'm finally looking in the mirror and liking what I see. I cannot even tell you how empowering that is.

 

[Sassy69]

The simple answer is that you need fuel to build - put in sufficient amounts of good quality fuel and your body will have enough energy to build the muscle that you want to increase your strength as well as provide a strong skeletal & muscle system to support itself. As the body begins to burn the optimal amount of nutrients to meet the strength and foundation goal, it will have preference to burn up extra fat and also to replace it with more solid muscle.

On your 800-1200 cal / day (its good that you are doing the 6 meals / day thing, and also sounds like the diet content is good), you are probably starving your body. It doesn't have enough fuel to run on and won't be able to generate muscle growth. As a matter of fact, its probably trying to hold onto the body fat that you do have because it thinks its existing in a famine environment. Try upping the calories a little and see what happens. "Emaciated" is not a healthy state for your body.

If you provide the right amount of fuel so your body can run optimally, the lean look and muscle will follow. If you starve it, it will continually be in an unbalanced state where you are driving it to perform (lift, cardio, etc) but not providing enough calories for it to do this long term. You can force it to do it for a while, but ultimately it will take its toll.

 

[thin]

THis makes me especially sad since I've been there. I've been in the hospital on IV's. I've done permanent damage to my body from starving it and from purging.

But I'm not starving or purging! My BMR is only like 1400 so 1200 is not "starvation" I'm supposed to lose about 1/2 lb a week and that's how it's going pretty much.

-Susan

 

[KBgrl]

next to ur pics u wrote "if u know who i am dont spoil my fun"

what does that mean?
i know who u are and i dont understand what that meant....nor would i ever ruin any "fun" ... i luv parties...and jokes... just not on my turf so whats up?

if want more muscle...u have ur answer -- read the posts above. if this about any drama ur haivng at the thin forum the people who harrass u guys over there and from elite are most likely retards from the chat forum... not the women's forum.