Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below
napsgear
genezapharmateuticals
domestic-supply
puritysourcelabs
UGL OZ
UGFREAK
napsgeargenezapharmateuticals domestic-supplypuritysourcelabsUGL OZUGFREAK

My ex (from FOUR YEARS AGO) won't move on with his life - help. (Long, sorry)

nefertiti

Memeber
Elite Moderator
Moderator
Some background first:

He and I were friends for years. On some level, I guess even good friends. During the summer we went to tons of baseball games, sometimes with other friends as well, sometimes just the two of us. During the winter we trash talked each other every Sunday (He's a die hard Giants fan, I'm a die hard Jets fan). We never really talked about anything really important. We never hung out in any setting that wasn't DIRECTLY related to sports. I never had any indication from him that he liked me at all till one day, out of the blue, he came out with it that he'd had feelings for a long time. With that on the table I basically had to decide whether or not to give things with him a shot. I loved being with him and always had fun with him, so I figured it was worth it to see if there was more there.

Our relationship lasted about 8 months and I grew to care about him a great deal in that time, even love him on some level. But things went sour the last couple of months and we sucked at communicating with each other because I think it was too difficult for us to change the dynamic that had been in place for so long. For a number of reasons I don't really need to get into, I broke things off with him and I know it completely broke his heart. Trust me, I hated hurting him and I was a mess over the whole thing, but I knew it was time to take my life in a different direction and he and I had no future.

The next month he'd periodically send me these LONG emails. Sometimes it was along the lines of, "I loved you for so long and that's why I never stayed serious with any girl when we were friends, because they never stacked up to you," and something they were like, "If you are going to walk away from this then maybe you aren't the girl I thought you were," and so on. At first...I patiently tried to respond, honestly and candidly. I wanted him to understand, and have closure. But when they started taking more of a tone that he still loved me, still wanted to be with me, I thought maybe the best thing for him would be for me to go cold turkey. I stopped responding, and didn't answer when he called. The emails got angrier and I remember thinking, "OK, if he hates me, then at least he can move on from this and find someone better for him." I told him I'd started seeing someone else, which wasn't true at that time, but again I thought it might make him accept that things were final.

The contact tapered off a little bit. I'd get another of his rants about how he doesn't understand but will always love me etc etc about once every two months, and I still didn't respond. Then I got one in which he mentioned he'd been seeing a girl for a while. I got confirmation from a mutual friend of ours, and was relieved that he seemed to be happy. The next time I got an email from him, he expressed a desire simply to rekindle the friendship we once had. Since he was seeing someone, and I was very serious with someone by this point, it seemed harmless to give him a few quick life updates now and then. We lived a couple thousand miles apart so I figured there was no real room for misunderstanding.

For the next year or so, we'd check in briefly every couple of months. Very quick, one paragraph emails. Occasionally I still got a text message that was mildly worrisome. One I still remember said something like, "I still miss you and love you and I can't make that go away no matter how hard I try, so fuck it" I pulled back a little again and when I did contact him I made sure to emphasize how happy I was in my current relationship.

After that ended last year, he's been pushing me to see him and just talk whenever I am coming to NY to see my parents. I've put him off numerous times. I was still getting periodic text messages like, "I will always love you, that won't change" and "Do you ever think about what could have been with us?" To which I always respond that I think the past is past and there's no going back. I've made it abundently clear that I do not return his feelings, that I'm not the same girl he fell in love with, and I have discouraged him at every chance I got.

Finally, I agreed to see him when I go to NY next weekend. We are going to go to a baseball game. It will be the first time I've seen him since we broke up. I'm doing this as a last ditch effort to get him to see in person that I am not the same anymore, that I'm dead serious that he and I are done, and again, to try and give him some closure. Now I'm having second thoughts because he texted me this morning, "You have no idea how much I miss you."

I feel like I've tried everything. I know some of you are going to imply that this guy is nuts, but he isn't. :aap: maybe, but not crazy. I do care about him and I want him to get on with things already and stop thinking about me. I tried cold turkey, didn't work. Tried to make him hate me, didn't work. Tried to "be friends" again when we were both dating other people, didn't work. I even tried telling him my boyfriend was threatening to pay him a visit if he didn't stop getting in touch with me.

It's not even that he's bothersome for ME. I want him to move on for HIM.

Someone please please tell me whet the hell I'm supposed to do. Should I go cold turkey again and this time stick to it? See him next week and act like a bitch? See him next week, be honest and straight forward and hope it carries more weight in person?

I have, for the record, tried changing all my info. I'm running out of ideas. Help. :worried:
 
Going to see him = leading him on since he can't differentiate between you coming to see him as a friend vs. coming to see him as a love interest.
 
HT - I am absolutely in NO way leading him on. I have been blunt as hell with him - even to the point of feeling like I was being cruel and feeling like shit about it afterward. And J, I told him I would see him only in the context of friends, and to talk. How is that not clear?
 
He's not nuts, he loves you.
My suggestion, do not meet with him. He's not over you and it's only going to hurt him more. No contact is the best way to get over it all.
If after all this time he is still not over you, seeing you again to see "that u have changed" will not change his mind. It will make him hurt all over again.
 
Oh... and if you wanna send the right signal, you should make a dirty video (with me) and send him a copy.

That'll learn him.
 
HumanTarget said:
relationship threads are such great stages for sarcasm and practice dissing.


They really are.

Makes me want to be a marriage counselor. Malpractice suits would be a bitch though.
 
first of all seeing him again tells him to wrong message. in his eyes you are coming to see him to test the waters and it gives him hope you will be back together. seriously, id stay away and change your number and email....sucks i know but ive seen guys like him all too many times. he wont stop unless you make some changes and block him out completely from all contact. i know hes a nice guy but he obviously doesnt want to be "just friends" and is trying to sucker you in. dont fall for it, im serious, keep away.
 
nefertiti said:
HT - I am absolutely in NO way leading him on. I have been blunt as hell with him. And J, I told him I would see him only in the context of friends, and to talk. How is that not clear?
'

Sweetie.

Doesn't matter what comes out of your mouth. It's only the act of going to see him and hang out with him when he has feelings for you that means anything to him.

He loves you / thinks he loves you - you know this - he knows you know this and you are going to see him to hang out. That's a pretty strong message in his mind.

Nothing you 'SAY' to override that means diddly shit.
 
nefertiti said:
HT - I am absolutely in NO way leading him on. I have been blunt as hell with him. And J, I told him I would see him only in the context of friends, and to talk. How is that not clear?
but you continue to keep him in your life. keeping that flame alive. guys will hang on to the end of days for a woman. if there was sex, you have a long road ahead....
 
blueta2 said:
He's not nuts, he loves you.
My suggestion, do not meet with him. He's not over you and it's only going to hurt him more. No contact is the best way to get over it all.
If after all this time he is still not over you, seeing you again to see "that u have changed" will not change his mind. It will make him hurt all over again.


Making him hurt it the LAST thing I want to do. I guess nix seeing him, then.

So cold turkey and stick with it? Ignoring him for a year didn't work.
 
Turd Ferguson said:
tell him there is no chance for love with the two of you. He will always want more, I would not even see him any more.

I have told him this. Repeatedly.
 
i am an expert in being dumped. maybe i should do it for you....first, he needs a buffer of sorts. maybe pick up a hobby to fill the incredible VOID you are about to create....
 
HumanTarget said:
but you continue to keep him in your life. keeping that flame alive. guys will hang on to the end of days for a woman. if there was sex, you have a long road ahead....


I ignored him for more than a year. I only talked to him again when he was serious about another girl.

There was no sex.
 
nefertiti said:
HT - I am absolutely in NO way leading him on. I have been blunt as hell with him - even to the point of feeling like I was being cruel and feeling like shit about it afterward. And J, I told him I would see him only in the context of friends, and to talk. How is that not clear?


not directly your not but indirectly you are. im telling you he sees this as his chance to win you back. if you are TRULY over him you wouldnt go to that game with him. sad as it may seem thats the only solution.
 
nefertiti said:
I ignored him for more than a year. I only talked to him again when he was serious about another girl.

There was no sex.
well, Princess, i think what you have is a stalker then. did you even notice?
 
nefertiti said:
Making him hurt it the LAST thing I want to do. I guess nix seeing him, then.

So cold turkey and stick with it? Ignoring him for a year didn't work.


Yeah nix it.......it will only open up old wounds.
You can't fault the guy for trying. His heart is still there, but for him to hold on this long having been with others and knowing u have, well it's a little bit of an obsession. That would make me uncomfortable.
 
OK...so we've established that I shouldn't see him next week.

Cold turkey? Change info again? Cut him off for good? If this will actually work, I'll do it. It just didn't seem to be doing diddly the last time.
 
bigmann245 said:
not directly your not but indirectly you are. im telling you he sees this as his chance to win you back. if you are TRULY over him you wouldnt go to that game with him. sad as it may seem thats the only solution.

I'm completely over him. I have been for years. I only considered seeing him as another way to get my point through but obviously I wasn't thinking.
 
nefertiti said:
OK...so we've established that I shouldn't see him next week.

Cold turkey? Change info again? Cut him off for good? If this will actually work, I'll do it. It just didn't seem to be doing diddly the last time.
maybe a very DIRECT letter. no sugarcoating at all. and finish it with: No Reply Necessary.
 
nefertiti said:
OK...so we've established that I shouldn't see him next week.

Cold turkey? Change info again? Cut him off for good? If this will actually work, I'll do it. It just didn't seem to be doing diddly the last time.


Just tell him you can't see him because you think it sends the wrong message and that you don't want to do that.

Further tha you hope that he respect your wishes and to not contact anymore because it only makes things harder.

If he doesn't do what you request, then yeah change ur shit. If he persists, file for a restraining order.

Seems simple.
 
HumanTarget said:
well, Princess, i think what you have is a stalker then. did you even notice?

He's not a stalker in the sense that he's in any way dangerous or has done anything criminal.
 
he has plain and simply F.E.A.R

False
Expecatitions
Appearing
Real

he has this last bit of hope that seeing you one more time he can magically win you over or you will realize you really do miss him.. seeing him will only hurt him more and set him back
 
jh1 said:
Just tell him you can't see him because you think it sends the wrong message and that you don't want to do that.

Further tha you hope that he respect your wishes and to not contact anymore because it only makes things harder.

If he doesn't do what you request, then yeah change ur shit. If he persists, file for a restraining order.

Seems simple.


that is perfect......

Who's so smart? ;-)
 
  • Like
Reactions: jh1
Have him read your shitty posts on here.

That'll repulse & repel him for sure.
 
nefertiti said:
I ignored him for more than a year. I only talked to him again when he was serious about another girl.

There was no sex.


doesn't matter with his obvious lack of maturity, he is living in a fantasy.. if you don't want him he obviously failed.. and he doesn't want that..

so once a relationship with a male becomes serious, the only way to end it is with no contact at all..

that's the only way a man can move on..
 
nefertiti said:
He's not a stalker in the sense that he's in any way dangerous or has done anything criminal.
stalkers aren't defined by intent. it's by actions. repetitive, unceasing actions.
 
I've tried the direct, no sugar coated letter and the please do not contact me because it makes things harder. He lasted about two months.
 
nefertiti said:
I've tried the direct, no sugar coated letter and the please do not contact me because it makes things harder. He lasted about two months.
ignore him. he's getting to you. and every time you respond, he'll feel more confident.
 
nefertiti said:
I ignored him for more than a year. I only talked to him again when he was serious about another girl.

There was no sex.


The best thing for you and more importantly for him is no more contact, ever. It may take many years but eventually he will get over you. Most guys cannot revert back to being friends....for some reason just doesn't work.
 
First thing is he is completely OBSESSED with you. This means there is no rational thought going on when it comes to you. By agreeing to see him all he thinks is that you might give him another chance. Do not see him, block his e-mail address, and under no circumstances should you return any phone calls or texts no matter how much you feel you should or owe it to him.

It sucks but the only way you can end this is to completely crush him so that he'll first get mad then get over it. Every time you contact him in anyway it just fucks his head up a little more. You are caught in a bad spot but it's much worse to drag this out anymore than to put your foot down and stop it.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
HumanTarget said:
btw, salad tossing is sex.

:lmao:

None of that either. We had an oddly innocent relationship. I don't think we ever comfortably transitioned away from being friends.
 
Mr. Black said:
The best thing for you and more importantly for him is no more contact, ever. It may take many years but eventually he will get over you. Most guys cannot revert back to being friends....for some reason just doesn't work.


Not always true. I was with my 1st b/f for almost 7 yrs, then I dumped him. He was obsessed with getting me back. I cut off all contact (it broke my heart), but eventually, he married and him and I became friends.
That was in 1989 and today him and I are best friends.

It can happen if two ppl are mature enough!
 
i am reminded of the michael mcdonald song "what a fool believes"

who's with me? high five.

yeah, might as well not see him. i'm sure no one else has suggested that, either. i rock.

but if you do meet him, you could bring me along...once he sees that you're with such a fucking awesome dude...he'll despair and move on.
 
nefertiti said:
:lmao:

None of that either. We had an oddly innocent relationship. I don't think we ever comfortably transitioned away from being friends.
what you did was something every park ranger advises against: Don't Feed the Bears!
 
jackangel said:
i am reminded of the michael mcdonald song "what a fool believes"

who's with me? high five.

yeah, might as well not see him. i'm sure no one else has suggested that, either. i rock.

but if you do meet him, you could bring me along...once he sees that you're with such a fucking awesome dude...he'll despair and move on.
Doobies Brothers hi-jack.
 
You should suck his dick in the parking lot and then look him in the eye and bluntly tell him that you think he is unattractive.
 
I'd go see him because you said you would, maybe he'll have changed derastically and can just be your friend ( this is a far stretch).

you did say you'd go see him though, and you say you don't want to hurt him.. you're probably going to have to either way.

don't you think someone who cares about you this much deserves one more day of your time before you cut him off, especially since you said you'd see him.

the only way to get him to move on is to give him no contact no responses, but before you do that, I'd give him a reason as to why you're doing it, because he's so clearly obsessed with you, that he might just take the jump if you straight cut him off.

I think the only way to push him forward is to ignore him entirely, but I'd give him his last day.

it's going to hurt him alot, but 4 years is a bit much. =/
 
jackangel said:
i am reminded of the michael mcdonald song "what a fool believes"

who's with me? high five.

yeah, might as well not see him. i'm sure no one else has suggested that, either. i rock.

but if you do meet him, you could bring me along...once he sees that you're with such a fucking awesome dude...he'll despair and move on.


Or maybe he'd think she was using you for free slushies.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
FriendlyCanadian said:
I'd go see him because you said you would, maybe he'll have changed derastically and can just be your friend ( this is a far stretch).

you did say you'd go see him though, and you say you don't want to hurt him.. you're probably going to have to either way.

don't you think someone who cares about you this much deserves one more day of your time before you cut him off, especially since you said you'd see him.

the only way to get him to move on is to give him no contact no responses, but before you do that, I'd give him a reason as to why you're doing it, because he's so clearly obsessed with you, that he might just take the jump if you straight cut him off.

I think the only way to push him forward is to ignore him entirely, but I'd give him his last day.

it's going to hurt him alot, but 4 years is a bit much. =/

NO NO NO NO.......
 
patsfan1379 said:
You should suck his dick in the parking lot and then look him in the eye and bluntly tell him that you think he is unattractive.
that is a much better alternative than most of my break-ups. which always involved taserings or being talked down from rooftops....
 
FriendlyCanadian said:
I'd go see him because you said you would, maybe he'll have changed derastically and can just be your friend ( this is a far stretch).

you did say you'd go see him though, and you say you don't want to hurt him.. you're probably going to have to either way.

don't you think someone who cares about you this much deserves one more day of your time before you cut him off, especially since you said you'd see him.

the only way to get him to move on is to give him no contact no responses, but before you do that, I'd give him a reason as to why you're doing it, because he's so clearly obsessed with you, that he might just take the jump if you straight cut him off.

I think the only way to push him forward is to ignore him entirely, but I'd give him his last day.

it's going to hurt him alot, but 4 years is a bit much. =/

This was my original line of thinking, but people here have basically convinced me that I will be doing more harm than good. I shouldn't have agreed to it, but my heart was in the right place.
 
blueta2 said:
NO NO NO NO.......

YES YES YES YES ............

I don't know why so many No no no no no no's.

all I said was give him one more day then cut him off.

or you could be cold and malicious and just stab him in the heart when you don't show up that weekend.
 
btw, Nerfie, thanks for making all of us feel better by posting your inadequate relationship tactics.
 
nefertiti said:
This was my original line of thinking, but people here have basically convinced me that I will be doing more harm than good. I shouldn't have agreed to it, but my heart was in the right place.

Nef, the best advice I ever got on the internet was a couple weeks ago..

it was DONT TAKE ADVICE WITH RELATIONSHIPS ON THE INTERNET.

you are the only one who has to live with yourself, none of these people are you.

no one knows yourself better, if you can do it and feel ok with not giving him that weekend and just throwing him out entirely then go for it.

I just have this strange thing of I always do what I say I'm going to do, no matter what.

it might be harder to see him one last time, but it could be nice, it might even be an enjoyable afternoon, one last ha ra before it's all over.

listen to your heart, do what you want to do nef, you'll find the right answer. =)
 
blueta2 said:
Not always true. I was with my 1st b/f for almost 7 yrs, then I dumped him. He was obsessed with getting me back. I cut off all contact (it broke my heart), but eventually, he married and him and I became friends.
That was in 1989 and today him and I are best friends.

It can happen if two ppl are mature enough!


The key word was "most"...For me personally once I have fucked someone and know what their pussy looks and feels like, after breaking it off it would be impossible for me to look at them as anything but.
 
HumanTarget said:
btw, Nerfie, thanks for making all of us feel better by posting your inadequate relationship tactics.

Any time!

I'm as flawed as the next person. I tend to think more with my heart than my head and it gets me into trouble.
 
nefertiti said:
Any time!

I'm as flawed as the next person. I tend to think more with my heart than my head and it gets me into trouble.
really? you come off as frigid and uncaring & made me think that there is a strong possibility that you hate children & puppies.
 
patsfan1379 said:
you have any titty shots you could post or anything?
breast requests are a nice "intermission". because you know a bunch of those hateful bitches will be waking up soon and start in with their manhatingness. so, if there are indeed breasts to be seen, please continue....
 
LOLOL #1) ...even love him on some level.

LOLOLO #2).. Trust me, I hated hurting him...

LOLOLOL #3)
Finally, I agreed to see him when I go to NY next weekend. We are going to go to a baseball game. It will be the first time I've seen him since we broke up. I'm doing this as a last ditch effort to get him to see in person that I am not the same anymore, that I'm dead serious that he and I are done, and again, to try and give him some closure
 
:whatever:

I fail to see any humor in this. Maybe you think I'm being insincere, but if that's the case that's your bias doing the thinking for you. Not all women are cold heartless bitches.
 
nefertiti said:
:whatever:

I fail to see any humor in this. Maybe you think I'm being insincere, but if that's the case that's your bias doing the thinking for you. Not all women are cold heartless bitches.


was he hot?
 
HumanTarget said:
but you continue to keep him in your life. keeping that flame alive. guys will hang on to the end of days for a woman. if there was sex, you have a long road ahead....


yep.......and supposedly we're the callous unromantic ones....... :rolleyes:

I really do beleive that when men fall in love.......they fall harder, love more than a woman does. Women are always accessing their options.........when men fall in love that's it.......they never look at other women the same.
 
mightymouse69 said:
was he hot?

Moderately OK looking. Sue me for not being shallow.

But since I know where you are trying to go with that, I've dumped and cared less about hotter, more successful guys than him. Like I said...you obviously have a bias, and that's not really my problem. :whatever:
 
Mr. Black said:
The key word was "most"...For me personally once I have fucked someone and know what their pussy looks and feels like, after breaking it off it would be impossible for me to look at them as anything but.


well, that's nice ;-)
 
nefertiti said:
I only talked to him again when he was serious about another girl.


WTF? He was about to forget you and you had to go run and butt in? And now he thinks you did it because you were scared of losing him.

I think so too.
 
nefertiti said:
Some background first:

He and I were friends for years. On some level, I guess even good friends. During the summer we went to tons of baseball games, sometimes with other friends as well, sometimes just the two of us. During the winter we trash talked each other every Sunday (He's a die hard Giants fan, I'm a die hard Jets fan). We never really talked about anything really important. We never hung out in any setting that wasn't DIRECTLY related to sports. I never had any indication from him that he liked me at all till one day, out of the blue, he came out with it that he'd had feelings for a long time. With that on the table I basically had to decide whether or not to give things with him a shot. I loved being with him and always had fun with him, so I figured it was worth it to see if there was more there.

Our relationship lasted about 8 months and I grew to care about him a great deal in that time, even love him on some level. But things went sour the last couple of months and we sucked at communicating with each other because I think it was too difficult for us to change the dynamic that had been in place for so long. For a number of reasons I don't really need to get into, I broke things off with him and I know it completely broke his heart. Trust me, I hated hurting him and I was a mess over the whole thing, but I knew it was time to take my life in a different direction and he and I had no future.

The next month he'd periodically send me these LONG emails. Sometimes it was along the lines of, "I loved you for so long and that's why I never stayed serious with any girl when we were friends, because they never stacked up to you," and something they were like, "If you are going to walk away from this then maybe you aren't the girl I thought you were," and so on. At first...I patiently tried to respond, honestly and candidly. I wanted him to understand, and have closure. But when they started taking more of a tone that he still loved me, still wanted to be with me, I thought maybe the best thing for him would be for me to go cold turkey. I stopped responding, and didn't answer when he called. The emails got angrier and I remember thinking, "OK, if he hates me, then at least he can move on from this and find someone better for him." I told him I'd started seeing someone else, which wasn't true at that time, but again I thought it might make him accept that things were final.

The contact tapered off a little bit. I'd get another of his rants about how he doesn't understand but will always love me etc etc about once every two months, and I still didn't respond. Then I got one in which he mentioned he'd been seeing a girl for a while. I got confirmation from a mutual friend of ours, and was relieved that he seemed to be happy. The next time I got an email from him, he expressed a desire simply to rekindle the friendship we once had. Since he was seeing someone, and I was very serious with someone by this point, it seemed harmless to give him a few quick life updates now and then. We lived a couple thousand miles apart so I figured there was no real room for misunderstanding.

For the next year or so, we'd check in briefly every couple of months. Very quick, one paragraph emails. Occasionally I still got a text message that was mildly worrisome. One I still remember said something like, "I still miss you and love you and I can't make that go away no matter how hard I try, so fuck it" I pulled back a little again and when I did contact him I made sure to emphasize how happy I was in my current relationship.

After that ended last year, he's been pushing me to see him and just talk whenever I am coming to NY to see my parents. I've put him off numerous times. I was still getting periodic text messages like, "I will always love you, that won't change" and "Do you ever think about what could have been with us?" To which I always respond that I think the past is past and there's no going back. I've made it abundently clear that I do not return his feelings, that I'm not the same girl he fell in love with, and I have discouraged him at every chance I got.

Finally, I agreed to see him when I go to NY next weekend. We are going to go to a baseball game. It will be the first time I've seen him since we broke up. I'm doing this as a last ditch effort to get him to see in person that I am not the same anymore, that I'm dead serious that he and I are done, and again, to try and give him some closure. Now I'm having second thoughts because he texted me this morning, "You have no idea how much I miss you."

I feel like I've tried everything. I know some of you are going to imply that this guy is nuts, but he isn't. :aap: maybe, but not crazy. I do care about him and I want him to get on with things already and stop thinking about me. I tried cold turkey, didn't work. Tried to make him hate me, didn't work. Tried to "be friends" again when we were both dating other people, didn't work. I even tried telling him my boyfriend was threatening to pay him a visit if he didn't stop getting in touch with me.

It's not even that he's bothersome for ME. I want him to move on for HIM.

Someone please please tell me whet the hell I'm supposed to do. Should I go cold turkey again and this time stick to it? See him next week and act like a bitch? See him next week, be honest and straight forward and hope it carries more weight in person?

I have, for the record, tried changing all my info. I'm running out of ideas. Help. :worried:
okay....the most important part that "you didnt feel like getting into" is why it didnt work for you, but worked so well for him.

what was he not giving you that you needed? too much love and attention? what was it?

does he have a small dick?

all of this is important to know before we can help you.
 
No contact, pure and simple. The more you give him of yourself to take up space and energy in his mind (doesnt matter what you are doing or telling him) the longer it will take him to let go. Doesnt matter if you are going to a ballgame to "break him the final bad news", he will still see it as you agreeing to go to a ballgame with him, and with that comes hope for him with you.
The opposite of love isnt hate, its disinterest.
 
SublimeZM said:
okay....the most important part that "you didnt feel like getting into" is why it didnt work for you, but worked so well for him.

what was he not giving you that you needed? too much love and attention? what was it?

does he have a small dick?

all of this is important to know before we can help you.

It's really complicated, and irrelevant. Had more to do with some external things going on in my life at the time that I don't feel like sharing with all of EF. He didn't commit any horrible crime...just a series of small things that added up, and given my situation at the time, I didn't have it in me to work through. Call it a faultless breakup, or a mutual fault breakup.
 
nefertiti said:
It's really complicated, and irrelevant. Had more to do with some external things going on in my life at the time that I don't feel like sharing with all of EF. He didn't commit any horrible crime...just a series of small things that added up, and given my situation at the time, I didn't have it in me to work through. Call it a faultless breakup, or a mutual fault breakup.
No relationship is so complicated that it cant be explained why it didnt work out. Even the most expensive drawn out high profile divorce cases always boil down to "he did that" or " she did that".
 
AAP said:
WTF? He was about to forget you and you had to go run and butt in? And now he thinks you did it because you were scared of losing him.

I think so too.

Uhhh....no. He was with the other girl and still desperately trying to get me to talk to him. At that time I was still ignoring him. When I found out he was with another girl, I was happy for him, and figured it meant he could handle hearing from me. Even then, as I said in the original post, it was very short emails, only in response to his, and only once every couple of months.

And no...I wasn't scared of losing him. I was insanely in love with someone else at the time (who, before you jump all over me, was always aware of everything going on).
 
only distance and lack of contact will truly allow him to get over it (trust me). . .it's his issue and he's gotta put it to rest. . .by himself. . .
 
superdave said:
No relationship is so complicated that it cant be explained why it didnt work out. Even the most expensive drawn out high profile divorce cases always boil down to "he did that" or " she did that".

It can be explained...but only by sharing something irrelevant.
 
nefertiti said:
It's really complicated, and irrelevant. Had more to do with some external things going on in my life at the time that I don't feel like sharing with all of EF. He didn't commit any horrible crime...just a series of small things that added up, and given my situation at the time, I didn't have it in me to work through. Call it a faultless breakup, or a mutual fault breakup.
i agree with what superdave said.

but so basically you had problems in your life ouitside the relationship and pushed him away? is that what u mean?

what was wrong with him that makes you not want to give it another shot? if your single and care about him as much as you say, and he cares about you this much, what harm can it do? unless of course he has a flaw you dont wanan live with
 
SublimeZM said:
i agree with what superdave said.

but so basically you had problems in your life ouitside the relationship and pushed him away? is that what u mean?

what was wrong with him that makes you not want to give it another shot? if your single and care about him as much as you say, and he cares about you this much, what harm can it do? unless of course he has a flaw you dont wanan live with

I'll PM it to you.
 
This guy is a SWV and a half.....he actually told you, his friend for all that time, he had feelings for you and you actually went out with him?

I've NEVER seen a girl do that....ever. Once you're in the friend zone, you us ually stay there...especially if you confess your feelings first as a guy.

anyways, enough of that. The guy is a complete SWV that is obsessed....he's completely dillusional and thinks somehow by telling you how much he misses you and loves you that it'll somehow magically change your feelings towards him. This guy will never learn until he mans up and finds someone else...and i really mean MAN up. He has alot of self esteem issues which i can smell from a mile away.

You screwed up by cutting him off and then responding and repeating the cycle....it just reinforced this train of thought. I know that wasn't your intention, but that's what occured.

You need to cut him off COMPLETELY...and defnietely do not see him!!!!

only when he realizes that you're out of his life forever will he move on. if you leave even a SLIGHT window open he'll believe this little fairy tale in his head
is possible.

do the right thing.
 
calveless wonder said:
This guy is a SWV and a half.....he actually told you, his friend for all that time, he had feelings for you and you actually went out with him?

I've NEVER seen a girl do that....ever. Once you're in the friend zone, you us ually stay there...especially if you confess your feelings first as a guy.

anyways, enough of that. The guy is a complete SWV that is obsessed....he's completely dillusional and thinks somehow by telling you how much he misses you and loves you that it'll somehow magically change your feelings towards him. This guy will never learn until he mans up and finds someone else. He has alot of self esteem issues which i can smell from a mile away.

You screwed up by cutting him off and then responding and repeating the cycle....it just reinforced this train of thought. I know that wasn't your intention, but that's what occured.

You need to cut him off COMPLETELY...and defnietely do not see him!!!!

only when he realizes that you're out of his life forever will he move on. if you leave even a SLIGHT window open he'll believe this little fairy tale in his head
is possible.

do the right thing.

I agree.

As much as it sucks and you want to hang out with him ; its the right and only thing to do.

I've been there before...... and I was like, damnit! I wanna be friends with you so bad but we just cant! I just cant see you anymore. Ever.

Even after years and years and years ; making contact can drudge up old feelings and it just hurts them again ; and you end up feeling like a piece of shit. Its hard to live with yourself after that.
 
I've been there before, will never be there again though. He's out of touch with reality.

This is what you can do tell him that you have no feelings for him and never will, he will ask you how you can say that, and just tell him, you know he's not the one for you and leave it at that. Tell him that if he continues to say things like he misses you that you will not talk to him because you don't feel its healthy. Tell him it doesn't sound like he is able to handle a friendship now. Tell him he needs to move on with his life and no matter how much he wants you to play a certain role in his life, you are not, and never will.

Tell him to have some dignity and self respect and realize that life will be full of relationships that do not work out and he needs to learn to deal with it sooner or later. The sooner he does the happier his life will be.
 
Lestat said:
I've been there before, will never be there again though. He's out of touch with reality.

This is what you can do tell him that you have no feelings for him and never will, he will ask you how you can say that, and just tell him, you know he's not the one for you and leave it at that. Tell him that if he continues to say things like he misses you that you will not talk to him because you don't feel its healthy. Tell him it doesn't sound like he is able to handle a friendship now. Tell him he needs to move on with his life and no matter how much he wants you to play a certain role in his life, you are not, and never will.

Tell him to have some dignity and self respect and realize that life will be full of relationships that do not work out and he needs to learn to deal with it sooner or later. The sooner he does the happier his life will be.



.......
 
drastic times call for drastic measures.

right now would be a good time to leave a dead kitten on his doorstep.

the message would be very simple : "for you, this pussy is dead."
 
i have a space bar issue with my laptop, so i try to keep it short and sweet... also, i did not read every single post due to this weather here and the time outs on my puter.

But, if you want him to let you go, then going to sports functions with him are not the best bet. let it go... I know you enjoy that friendship part of the relationship... but he may think of it as a hold on what was then.
 
Top Bottom