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My cycle is not working....

err i don't get it.... you look more ripped... are you cutting... if so
awsome because it doesn't look like your loosing mass....
i am in a cutting cycle now... it sucks not gaining 20lbs... but it beats loosing 20 hehhee
 
heheheh sorry for butting in the middle.... but man whats your diet like.... your a ripped fuck in 7 weeks ... your the man...
very inspirational.....
 
yea man, hunt the bastard that sold you that shit down and make him give you a refund!!

lol seriously though, that's not just gear. You've obviously done a lot of hard work and it shows. cudos bro
 
holy shit man, i posted my last comment before i saw your last picture

good god man, send those pictures to fucking Muscletech RIGHT NOW and they'll pay you tons of cash to say you made those gains by sitting on your ass, eating pizza, but drinking two muscletech shakes a day.
 
DDDDDDDDDDDDDDAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNN

If you wont find this guy I will; look at what he did to you (lol)
Damn good results. What is your cycle and your work out diet?
 
Thanks...I was just kidding about the stuff not working. My current cycle looks like this...

Eq 600
Test 600
HGH 4 iu 5 on / 2 off
Arimidex .5mg ED

I just started Tren less than a week ago! HEHE...I never used that shit before and oh my god what a differnece. I will be adding winny too.

I went low carbs for the first few weeks...that first pic was actually taken 4 weeks before my cycle (sorry). I started dieting then and also doing cardio. I took NYC 1 -2 pills before workouts in the AM and I use the Yohimburn along with it. I avoided carbs all day but when I would get really flat I would eat oatmeal in the AM. Otherwise high protein and whatever fat I wanted.

I have not gained a pound since I started the cycle 5'5 170 - 172. (yeah another short guy)

I started eating some junk here and there and it actually made me look a little better although I did noticed that I lost some cuts. Assholes in the gym were telling me that I looked skinny so I started cheating on my diet a little more and doing more cardio.

I will post my week 12 pics. I am happy with the results fo far. I have a feeling that Fina is going to do wonders!! Good luck with your diet / cycle.

-G
 
hahaha....wow only one guy posted when I typed that last point. Man you guys make me want to cry and I have not even started clomid!!!

Well you can pat your own backs bors because I have been getting all my advice from you guys!! (NO SHIT!) I can't thank you guys enough for the kind words. It REALLY means alot.

I am so happy right now!!!

THANKS AGAIN!
-g
 
damn damny bro good work!Fuck man I'm not jealous, GOD DAMNIT to HELL!!Please help me out and tell me what the hell else you were eating man.please!!How often for cardio?
 
What's your diet look like??

Those are nothing less than spectacular results for only 2 months.
Besides some intense training, you must have the diet down perfect.
 
As far as food, here is the idea.

Eat a lot of protein (duh) try not to eat carbs but if you do make it oatmeal or something along those lines. Don't worry about the fat cause you need the calories!

Protein
-------------------------------
I drink 2 - 3 50 gram shakes
1 lb of meat (Chicken salmon or steak)
30 gram protein bar
sometimes I replace 1/2 lb of meat with 8 - 10 eggs
(I don't even count any other types of protein like cottage cheese, milk etc. but I eat them too during the day)

"Carbs"
---------------------------------
I eat salads with the meat. (lettus / spinach / broc. cheese and dressing)

On some days when I look flat I would eat shredded wheat or oatmeal with rasins in the AM. (Never on days when I do cardio) I also took 900 mgs of ALA before any carbs.

Chile kicks ASS! 1 lb meat, 1 can beans, 1 can tomatos and chile powder / cheese. Lots of protein, low carbs low fat....tastes GREAT!

Chicken, broc., cheese, and 8 eggs are great too with a little salsa!

Fat
-----------------
Peanut butter...and uh....yeah peanut butter.
Flax oil from time to time with a shake.

Drinks
---------------------------
Water and Diet 7-up

Junk
-------------------------------
Apple with peanut butter (GOD I LOVE THAT SHIT!)
Cottage cheese with fruit
Whip cream in my shake (NO CARBS!) or on my girlfriends tits.
Popcorn at the movie (no butter and not that often)
Splenda for a sugar sub.

My diet is simple...and it is not hard to stay on at all...I could give you a bunch of ideas but it nothing that you have not heard before....hope this helps.
 
Hey bro

Fucking AWESOME. Thats all i gotta say! Shit man, you give me hope for my upcoming cycle. For reals, thats some awesome shit! What were your stats before you started? 5' 5" 170? what about bf?
 
Damn man I eat that way,if not better.I just have the bestest genes ever:rolleyes: Maybe I should get into injectables,seeing as I never get those results with orals only:p I'm a retard
 
Read this.....and look at the date when I wrote it!!

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=141702

THANKS A LOT!! Now I am really motivated!!!

Not sure what my BF was....I think the last pic is about 7% I was at 185 in the first pic. at like 14% (guess??) I dunno....

Honestly, I feel pretty damn small. People tell me that a lot too because they always see me with my clothes on and I lost weight...It makes me feel like throwing in the towel and bulking up.

It was killing me to loose weight and feel my clothes getting looser. Hey Beezers....thanks for telling me to stick with the plan!! You were right!
 
I gotta give you props bro-your transformation was fucking phenominal---other than oatmeal, you eat NO starchy carbs? Is your appetite crazy w/out carbs or does the fat satisfy it? What kinda test are you using (and GH)? I really don't understand karma but I'll give you some--Keep going bro, you look great--g-dogg
 
Thanks g-dogg ! I have seen you around a lot and I appreicate the feedback. Yeah I don't eat any starchy carbs besides the oatmeal. It does suck at first but you get over it. It is so damn easy to shop for food and cook.

I get so damn hungry on that EQ sometimes. I do end up eating a lot of fat but it seems to keep my system run a little hotter. I look in the mirror every day to figure out how much fat / carbs I am going to eat for the day.

I use test. cyp. and I have a script for it. I use the export GH kits and TT EQ. GH seems to be going ok but that EQ and Tren have been great. I am looking forward to seeing what Tren and Winny do after running that for a few weeks and dropping the test / EQ!

I will bulk again this winter to add some more size. After seeing SAF on here I know what I want to look like when I grow up!

I know that my diet is not a strict as some of the bros on the board but I think I would waste away to nothing if I was too hard core. I will wait until I get some more size before I try that. Thanks again!
 
Fuckin great results man.

Im 5'8, 207 right now about 14%bf and I just started cutting as well. EQ/winny/fina. Trust me man, you will LOVE the fina once it kicks in. I am actually going to run it at 150mg/ed for 6 weeks and see how that treats me. I wanna get down from 14% to 9% in 6 weeks.
 
That is fucking amazing!!!
It makes me pissed off about having been natural through all my training. I get massive, and fucking lose half of it.

YOU are an INSPIRATION! I can't wait to juice this fall. Fuck!

Don't listen to those rats telling you you look small. They probably bulk year round and don't understand the law of diminishing returns. If you lost fat and gained muscle mass (which it seems you did) they would say the same thing.
 
awesome results

Shows what hardwork and dedication can do, people like you make it that much easier for me to stick to my diet, everytime I think of cheating I know there is someone out there like you who really isn't!

Good luck with the rest of it man!
 
plornive said:
That is fucking amazing!!!
It makes me pissed off about having been natural through all my training. I get massive, and fucking lose half of it.

YOU are an INSPIRATION! I can't wait to juice this fall. Fuck!

Don't listen to those rats telling you you look small. They probably bulk year round and don't understand the law of diminishing returns. If you lost fat and gained muscle mass (which it seems you did) they would say the same thing.
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Dude, I wasn't trying to say that the juice did it all for you. I know people who juice and don't get near to the results you are getting on this cutting cycle.
 
Damn, I wish my cycles "didn't work" like yours isn't... lol....Amazing work bro, that is some fantastic progress right there :eek2:

YUM
 
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awesome work, what did your diet look like?

nevermind, my bad, i just read the diet you posted earlier in thread.
 
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Thanks for all the support guys....I really can't thank you enough. It means a lot.

I know that I am still small and kinda stringy looking for the "bodybuilding" world. Compared to the "rest of the world" I am happy with the results. The average joe on the street would look at those pics and say "hey, pretty good". Cause they have no clue what it takes to have LEAN mass. When I was 190 - 195 I never would have thought that I would have had to get down to 170 to look lean. I thought I was just 10 -15 lbs away. When you go to cut up...the truth comes out and there is no place for muscle to hide. You either have muscle or you don't and you find out the hard way in some cases...

I just don't know how much size I can put on my frame. When I started I was 120 lbs at the same height.

I am going to bulk up one more time after I am done with this diet phase and see where I am at.


about the gh....

The GH didn't react that well with me really. It seemed to cause some problems with some joints but they feel much better now. I started the GH before my cycle and was only using 2 IU for a long time.

Thanks again for the kind words of encouragement!
 
You couldn't have asked for more out of your cycle bro. Excellent results. What cycle # is this for you?
 
Great work!!!!
I love to see a short guy get jacked. All these tall guys start hating. It is great to turn it around on them. It is about time.
 
This is my third cycle in 10 years. A long time ago I did a few cycles. They were test only and I never went above 400 mg / week. I would do 200 - 300 per week! and I stacked it with nothing else.....(makes me laugh when I think about it. I didn't even know what clomid was back then.)

I quit training for a number of years in between to go to school and change careers.

The last 2 cycles have been serious....thanks to all that I have learned from this board and some additional research. I have always had a strong background in nutrition and supplements...just not much on gear. I have a biochem degree.


I have been doing cardio 3 -4 days per week (on days when I don't train.) I train with weight 3 days. (push, pull, legs)

I hope that Fina is all that it is cracked up to be...so far it seems that way.

*** For guys that are dieting while one gear ***
It is hard to get over the fact that you are taknig a Big cycle and you are not gaining a frickin' pound! It sucks ass when you are use to gaining 15 - 20+ off a cycle. Be prepared mentally....take some pics, they will help remind you that the shit is working!
 
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