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Sailor_Girl
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He wants to gain mass....what should he use??
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My boyfriend wants to do a cycle....need advice on what he should use.
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Delinquent
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Well we can't really help if we don't know more about him like stats. And please don't ask where to get it from. I know you frequent the chat more than here but it's against board rules. Except for that we'd be happy to help just need more info on him
Sailor_Girl
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What kinda stats do you need? He's about 6'1 that's all I know....I'll ask him for more. He's got a good build already in my opinion but he wants to be bigger. I'm sorry, I am just totally clueless in this area.
Sassy69
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Same basic rules apply regarding AS ---
1) How old? Guys have their highest levels of test around age 18-20 so why not take advantage of that??? Alot of the guys on the AS board will say the same -- don't start out too young.
2) How long has he been working out? If he doesn't already have an excellent base to start, AS isn't going to make it any better. Already should have a good solid diet & training regimen.
3) AS isn't just a magic pill, so don't think its a short cut to getting big.
And like we tell the guys who come to this board -- get him on here -- if he doesn't know what he's getting into, he's got no business getting into it. Spend lots of time researching. And have some goals in mind -- many people who jump on AS could've gotten the same gains naturally with better training & diet. Costs less, doesnt' fuck with your hormones and you'll be in a better place to decide if you really want to go the route of AS at that time.
1) How old? Guys have their highest levels of test around age 18-20 so why not take advantage of that??? Alot of the guys on the AS board will say the same -- don't start out too young.
2) How long has he been working out? If he doesn't already have an excellent base to start, AS isn't going to make it any better. Already should have a good solid diet & training regimen.
3) AS isn't just a magic pill, so don't think its a short cut to getting big.
And like we tell the guys who come to this board -- get him on here -- if he doesn't know what he's getting into, he's got no business getting into it. Spend lots of time researching. And have some goals in mind -- many people who jump on AS could've gotten the same gains naturally with better training & diet. Costs less, doesnt' fuck with your hormones and you'll be in a better place to decide if you really want to go the route of AS at that time.
worldclass
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"3) AS isn't just a magic pill, so don't think its a short cut to getting big. "
How isn't it a shortcut to getting big? If it wasn't no one would use it.
How isn't it a shortcut to getting big? If it wasn't no one would use it.
The Ranger
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Couple of weeks ago you and your BF broke up and you were on the prowl....Back together....heh heh heh
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Sailor_Girl
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This was originally posted on the anobilics board but I guess it got moved here cuz I'm a chic. I was fairly pissed but didn't want to start shit.
OK then...well I can only speak from wha my husband has done...
Is this his first cycle? I guess it may be, right?
Anyhoo...
Sustanon (or another test like enanthate) & Deca with some dbol to start with will gain some good mass...
Alot of guys will say you need sooooo much, but you honestly don't . From my point of view, they don't know when to quit and keep stacking and upping the dosage.
I am no expert...but I would say (and everyone has their own opinions)
250 mg Sustanon + 300 mg Deca per week. Most guys would say that's not enough...but my husband is doing fine. It's his second cycle of the same.
And if he wants mass, add some dbol to kick it in at the beginning.
But there is soooo much more that he needs to know before starting this. Like clomind after the cycle, nolvadex, arimidex (anti-estrogens) to precent gyno (bitch tits) etc.
A cycle usually runs 8 weeks and you should taper off and take clomid 3 weeks after your last shot.
I would seach the AS boards for words like "first cycle" etc.
Hope this helps...
Is this his first cycle? I guess it may be, right?
Anyhoo...
Sustanon (or another test like enanthate) & Deca with some dbol to start with will gain some good mass...
Alot of guys will say you need sooooo much, but you honestly don't . From my point of view, they don't know when to quit and keep stacking and upping the dosage.
I am no expert...but I would say (and everyone has their own opinions)
250 mg Sustanon + 300 mg Deca per week. Most guys would say that's not enough...but my husband is doing fine. It's his second cycle of the same.
And if he wants mass, add some dbol to kick it in at the beginning.
But there is soooo much more that he needs to know before starting this. Like clomind after the cycle, nolvadex, arimidex (anti-estrogens) to precent gyno (bitch tits) etc.
A cycle usually runs 8 weeks and you should taper off and take clomid 3 weeks after your last shot.
I would seach the AS boards for words like "first cycle" etc.
Hope this helps...
some research i did came from:
http://www.anabolicreview.com/main.htm
http://www.elitefitness.com/members/profiles/mostpopular.html
http://www.anabolicreview.com/main.htm
http://www.elitefitness.com/members/profiles/mostpopular.html
Sassy69
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I guess I'm thinking of these guys who only go to the gym because their buds do during summer break and really just stand around and scope out chicks, rack up the bench press with a couple 45s, grunt a little, walk away acting macho and then leave. Then they realize they can get a hold of some AS and decide they are going to "use it to get big". If these guys are that clueless about it, they probably aren't familiar with clomid or anything else and just might fuck themselves up. I guess my point is, they should at least have some sort of gym discipline - AS should (mind you, I'm referring to ideally...) be used when natural potential has been met and more is needed. I'm trying to encourage intelligent use of AS as part of an overall strength/fitness regimen, along with diet and training. Not just something to shoot and get bloated on.
.. I know, I sound like an idealist, but at least if we raise a few flags to the newbies who don't have a clue, they might at least spend some time researching to make an intelligent, informed decision....
SailorGirl -- I'm not trying to be condescending or anything -- you didnt' say how much experience with lifting your bf has so I took the conservative approach. I'm sorry you got moved to this board, not that we can't help a little, but you'll get more "guy info" on the AS board. Maybe get the bf on the boards and have him post his own thread. Or just say "First cycle info needed" in your thread title on the AS board. Also do a search on "first cycle", "1st cycle", "newbie", etc. and you should find a lot of the same info. Also check a couple of the newbie stickies on the AS board for starting places.
Good luck -- just trying to encourage responsible AS use and highlight the fact that a lot of the people who are using AS probably would get the same results from a good training schedule and eating enough protein. Why complicate it with AS just because you have access to it?? (Check out this thread for more on THAT discussion... http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=52839)
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Sailor_Girl
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tripleV said:
LMAO! True that!
Thanks a lot for your help ladies...
This would be his first cycle. He's gonna be 25 in a couple weeks. A friend of his did a cycle of deca and it worked really well for him so now he wants to try it I guess.
tripleV said:
Hehe....good j/k
Deca/winny or Test/dball are the most basic of all cycles.
Deca/Test is a BAD idea for a beginner as he doesn't know his
propensity to gyno yet. With that cycle he's hitting both the he PR and AR
gyno path-ways....
The Fonz has spoken
Just watching Gone in 60 seconds, GREAT film. Turns on the nitrous
and goes from 100 190MPH in like 3s...LOL
Godspeed
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Big Buck
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there are certain people that are VERY knowledgeable in this area that you know....*ahem* 
The Ranger
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Triple V's advice on a cycle is sound, and to kick start it, go with dbol at 25mg's a day taken in even dosages every 4 hours for 2 weeks, then taper to 20mg's a day for 2 weeks...
Have anti-estro's on hand, and clomid at the end to help get HPTA going a little sooner...
I personally think it's a bit on the weak side, and would bump the sus up to 500mg's a week for 6 weeks, and 250 a week for the last 2....but that's me....*wink*
Ranger
Have anti-estro's on hand, and clomid at the end to help get HPTA going a little sooner...
I personally think it's a bit on the weak side, and would bump the sus up to 500mg's a week for 6 weeks, and 250 a week for the last 2....but that's me....*wink*
Ranger
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