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Below is a picture of the new 5 mg Oxandrolone made in Mexico by Ttokkyo Labs which is taking the place of their 2.5 mg Oxandrolone. The 5mg tablet will be a polygonal orange tablet that is scored on one side and have a "T" on the other side. The 2.5 mg tablet will be identical, but will not have the "T". The color is definitely different from the typical pink d-bol tablets.

Chemical: Oxandrolone

Aliases: Lipo-Dex, Nilevar, Oxandrolone (generic name)

Stacking Information: Athletes

Anavar is manufactured by Searle Laboratories under the brand name, and by spa labs under the generic name Oxandrolone. Oxandrolone is also being produced in Mexico by Ttokkyo in 2.5mg and 5mg tablets. Anavar is typically prescribed on a 5mg twice daily routine, but athletes almost always exceed that amount. Elite members report great results using 20-50mg per day in divided doses. Anavar is probably the most expensive steroid to use. The average price for a 100 count bottle of 5mg tabs (by Ttokkyo) will cost $200 to $300 on the US black market.

Oxandrolone is mild. Low androgenic 17-alpha alkylated anbolic steroid with very low toxicity. Preferred by thousands of men and women users because it promotes protein anbolism and rarely caused adverse reaction. Oxandrolone is primarlly used to promote strength and muscle hardness. In clinical studies Oxandrolone has enhanced bodyfat reduction significantly in both the abdominal and viceral stores.

This product helps build muscle without causing serious liver damage in the short term (No more than 4 months). It also stimulates the production in growth hormone. Oxandrolone is an oral drug to promote weight gain in people experiencing weight loss including HIV-associated weight loss, and even leukemia.

Research shows that anavar is the one anabolic steroid least likely to cause any side effects. There are very rarely reports of ill effects of any kind using anavar. There is rarely any water retention with this drug, which makes it the drug of choice for persons who need to keep their weight down, either for cutting or like a powerlifter who needs to make weight. Thus you will see a number of bodybuilders using anavar the last two months before competing. Some powerlifters claim that this steroid is No. 1 for gaining strength without water weight.

The use of the low androgenic product is quite popular with women. Very little masculinisation in any form has been seen among woman who have used this drug at a dose of 5-10mg daily. The first signs of virilisaton in females could include persistent hoarseness, deepening of the women's voice, decreased libido, and/or clitoral enlargement. If any of these symptoms should show, the woman should get of the drug immediately.

Anavar does not aromatize. This means of course, that it's one of the very few anabolic steroids that will not convert to estrogen at any dosage. This means it will not cause that soft look to the muscles or will it lead to the development of breast tissue in men.
 
OXANDROLONE SPA Substance: oxandrolone
Trade Names:
Anavar (o.c.) 2.5 mg tab.; Searle U.S.
Anatrophill (o.c.) 2.5 mg tab.; Searle FR
Lipidex 2.5 mg tab.; Searle Brazil
Lonavar (o.c.) 2.5 mg tab.; Searle Argentina
Lonavar 2 mg tab.; Dainippon Japan
Oxandrolone SPA 2.5 mg tab.; SPA I
Vasorome 0.5 mg tab.; Kowa Japan
Vasorome 2 mg tab.; Kowa Japan


Searle Company introduced the substance oxandrolone to the U.S. market in 1964 under the name Anavar and it enjoyed great popu-larity for over two decades until, on July 1, 1989, the produc-tion of Anavar was phased out. Today Anavar is manufactured under its various generic names in only a few countries (see above). The compound with the generic name Oxandrolone SPA by S.p.A. Milano Company (Società Prodotti Antibiotica) from Italy is the only original anabolic steroid available in Europe which contains the substance oxandrolone. There are 30 tablets in one box with two push-through strips of 15 tablets each. Oxandrolone is a weak steroid with only a slight androgenic component. It has been shown that Oxandrolone, when taken in reasonable dos-ages, rarely has any side effects. This is appreciated since Oxandrolone was developed mostly for women and children. Oxandrolone is one of the few steroids which does not cause an early stunting of growth in children since it does not prematurely close the epiphysial growth plates. For this reason Oxandrolone is mostly used in children to stimulate growth and in women to prevent osteoporosis. Oxandrolone causes very light virilization symptoms, if at all. This characteristic makes Oxandrolone a fa-vored remedy for female athletes since, at a daily dose of 10-15 mg, masculinizing symptoms are observed only rarely.

Bodybuilders and powerlifters, in particular, like Oxandrolone for three reasons. First, Oxandrolone causes a strong strength gain by stimulating the phosphocreatine synthesis in the muscle cell without depositing liquid (water) in the joints and the muscles. Powerlifters and weightlifters who do not want to end up in a higher weight class take advantage of this since it allows them to get stronger without gaining body weight at the same time. The combination of Oxandrolone and 20 - 30 mg Holotestin daily has proven to be very effective since the muscles also look harder. Similarly good results can be achieved by a simultaneous intake of Oxandrolone and 120-140 mcg Clenbuterol per day. Although Oxandrolone itself does not cause a noticeable muscle growth it can clearly improve the muscle-developing effect of many ste-roids. Deca-Durabolin, Dianabol, and the various testosterone compounds, in particular, combine well with Oxandrolone to achieve a "mass buildup" because the strength gain caused by the intake of these highly tissue-developing and liquid-retaining sub-stances results in an additional muscle mass. A stack of 200 mg Deca-Durabolin/week, 500 mg Testosterone enanthate (e.g. Testoviron Depot 250)/week, and 25 mg Oxandrolone/day leads to a good gain in strength and mass in most athletes. Deca-Durabolin has a distinct anabolic effect and stimulates the syn-thesis of protein; Oxandrolone improves the strength by a higher phosphocreatine synthesis; and Testosterone enanthate increases the aggressiveness for the workout and accelerates regeneration.

The second reason why Oxandrolone is so popular is that this compound does not aromatize in any dosage. As already men-tioned, a certain part of the testosterone present in the body is converted into estrogen. This aromatization process, depending on the predisposition, can vary distinctly from one athlete to another. Oxandrolone is one of the few steroids which cannot aromatize to estrogen. This characteristic has various advantages for the athlete. With Oxandrolone the muscle system does not get the typical watery appearance as with many steroids, thus making it very interesting during the preparation for a competition. In this phase it is especially important to keep the estrogen level as low as possible since estrogen programs the body to store water even if the diet is calorie-reduced. In combination with a diet, Oxandrolone helps to make the muscles har~ and ripped. Although Oxandrolone itself does not break downfat, it plays an indirect role in this process because the substancr-often suppresses the athlete's appetite. Oxandrolone can also cause some bloating which in several athletes results in nausea and vomiting when the tablets are taken with meals. The package insert of the Italian Oxandrolone notes its effect on the activity of the gas-trointestinal tract. Some athletes thus report continued diarrhea. Although these symptoms are not very pleasant they still help the athlete break down fat and become harder. Those who work out for a competition or are interested in gaining quality muscles should combine Oxandrolone with steroids such as Winstrol, Parabolan, Masteron, Primobolan, and Testosterone propionate. A stack of 50 mg Winstrol every two days, 50 mg Testosterone propionate every two days, and 25 mg Oxandrolone every day has proven effective. Another advantage of Oxandrolone's non-aromatization is that athletes who suffer from high blood pres-sure or develop gynecomastia of the thymus glands when taking stronger androgenic steroids will not have these side effects with this compound. The. Oxandrolone/Deca-Durabolin stack is a wel-come alternative for this group of athletes or for athletes show-ing signs of poor health during mass buildup with testosterone, Dianabol, or Anadrol 50. Athletes over forty should predomi-nantly use Oxandrolone.

The third reason which speaks well for an intake of Oxandrolone is that even in a very high dosage this compound does not influ-ence the body's own testosterone production. To make this clear: Oxandrolone does not suppress the body's own hormone pro-duction. The reason is that it does not have a negative feedback mechanism on the hypothalamohypophysial testicular axis, meaning that during the intake of Oxandrolone, unlike during the intake of most anabolic steroids, the testes signal the hypo-thalamus not to reduce or to stop the release of GnRH (gonadot-ropin releasing hormone) and LHRH Luteinizing hormon releas-ing hormone). This special feature of Oxandrolone can be explained by the fact that the substance is not converted into estrogen Oxandrolone (Anavar), when given to normal men in high doses does not reduce the seminal volume or count, nor can it be converted (aromatized) into estrogen.

Oxandrolone combines very well with Andriol, since Andriol does not aromatize in a dosage of up to 240 mg daily and has only slight influence on the hormone production. The daily intake of 280 mg Andriol and 25 mg Oxandrolone re-sults in a good gain in strength and, in steroid novices, also in muscle mass without excessive water retention and without a significant influence on testosterone production. As for the dos-age of Oxandrolone, 8-12 tablets in men and 5-6 tablets in women seem to bring the best results. The rule of thumb to take 0.125 mg/pound of body weight daily has proven successful in clinical tests. The tablets are normally taken two to three times daily after meals thus assuring an optimal absorption of the substance. Those who get the already discussed gastrointestinal pain when taking Oxandrolone are better off taking the tablets one to two hours after a meal or switching to another compound.

Since Oxandrolone is only slightly toxic and usually shows few side effects it is used by several athletes over a prolonged period of time. However Oxandrolone should not be taken for several consecutive months, since, as with almost all oral steroids it is 1 7-alpha alky-lated and thus liver toxic. Oxandrolone is an all-purpose remedy which, depending on the athlete's goal, is very versatile. Women who react sensitively to the intake of anabolic steroids achieve good results when combining Oxandrolone/Primobolan Tabs and/or Clenbuterol, without suffering from the usual virilization symp-toms. Women, however, should not take more than 6 tablets daily. otherwise, androgenic-caused side effects such as acne, deep voice, clitorial hypertrophy or increased growth of body hair can occur.

Probably the largest disadvantages that come along with Oxandrolone are its high price and poor availability on the black market. Original Oxandrolone costs about $1 - 2 per tablet on the black market and is rarely avail-able, if at all.
 
Oxandrolone (Oxandrin)
Description
by Bill Roberts - Unlike most oral steroids, which are Class II steroids giving most of their anabolic effect by means other than the androgen receptor (AR), it seems that oxandrolone probably does have good binding to the AR, and is therefore a Class I steroid, while having little other effect. By itself it is considered to be a weak anabolic.

Partly this is due to its apparent lack of non-AR-mediated activity. This can be corrected of course by stacking with a Class II steroid such as Dianabol, Anadrol, 4-AD, or nor-4-AD: the latter two steroids require high blood levels which are not obtained by oral use of the powders.

The other part of the reason for this is that bodybuilders make unfortunate and unreasonable comparisons when judging anabolic steroids. If say 8 tablets per day does little, then the drug is pronounced useless or weak by the user. But that is only 20 mg/day, or 140 mg/week. Does 140 mg/week testosterone give much results? No. Few anabolic steroids give dramatic results at that dose. Per milligram the potency is reasonable, but each individual tablet is weak because the dosage is small.

Because of its high price, very few bodybuilders have taken large doses of oxandrolone. There is a single case in the medical literature (Forbes et al.) where it is reported that a competitive athlete self-administered 150 mg oxandrolone per day with remarkable gains. This is of uncertain credibility because unless urinalysis was done to verify that no other steroids were taken, there is no way to be certain that the athlete did not actually take more drugs than he reported. In any case, at current prices, only the quite wealthy could afford such a dose. I personally have tried 150 mg/day and considered it somewhat effective, but not dramatically so, and not a preferred regimen.

Oxandrolone does not aromatize or convert to DHT, and has a longer half life than Dianabol - 8 hours vs. 4 hours. Thus, a moderate dose taken in the morning is largely out of the system by night, yet supplies reasonable levels of androgen during the day and early evening.

Oxandrolone shares the liver toxicity problems common to 17-alkylated steroids. At one time it was thought that it did not, but both clinical and practical experience with Oxandrin has shown that at doses of 40 mg/day and higher, liver toxicity is indeed an issue with prolonged use.

Primobolan, I believe (Bill Roberts the author), should be considered a superior compound, offering the same activity at (usually) a lower price and without the alkylated-toxicity issue.
 
STEROID: OXANDROLONE

STRENGTH: ****

WEIGHT GAIN: *

FAT /WATER LOSS: **

ANTI-ESTROGEN: -

SIDE EFFECTS: **

KEEP GAINS: **

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STEROID: ANAVAR

STRENGTH: ***

WEIGHT GAIN: **

FAT /WATER LOSS: -

ANTI-ESTROGEN: ****

SIDE EFFECTS: *

KEEP GAINS: ****

taken from http://www.anabolicreview.com/effect.htm
 
Taken from Elite's site:

Pharmaceutical Name: Oxandrolone

Brand Names &
Countries of Origin: In the US, Anavar was manufactured by Searle Laboratories until it was recently discontinued.
It is now available again as a treatment for AIDS in the US although the cost is extremely expensive.
Anavar (o.c.) 2.5 mg tab.; Searle U.S. discontinued
Anatrophill (o.c.) 2.5 mg tab.; Searle FR
Lipidex 2.5 mg tab.; Searle Brazil
Lonavar (o.c.) 2.5 mg tab.; Searle Argentina
Lonavar 2 mg tab.; Dainippon Japan
Oxandrolone SPA 2.5 mg tab.; SPA I
Oxandrine 2.5 mg tab.; BTG U.S.
Vasorome 0.5 mg tab.; Kowa Japan
Vasorome 2 mg tab.; Kowa Japan

Description: 2.5 mg tabs, 100 per bottle Oxandrolone is a mild, low androgen 17-alpha alkylated anabolic steroid with very low toxicity. Preferred by thousands of men and women users because it promotes protein anabolism and rarely caused adverse reaction. Anavar is primarily used to promote strength and muscle hardness. In the International Journal of Obesity, (1995; 19: 614-624), it was shown that Oxandralone enhanced bodyfat reduction significantly in both the abdominal and visceral stores.

Effective Dose: Men: 6-8 tablets per day or 7.5-15 mg/day. Women: 3 tablets a day.

Pharmaceutical Price: $30 for 100 tabs.

Average Street Price: $3/tab

Cycles and Stacks: Oxandrolone is not a steroid to bulk up on; yet, it is often part of a bulking stack. It could be combined with testosterone or Dianabol to accent these highly androgenic compounds.

Side Effects: Athletes claim that this drug is unsurpassed in its ability to promote strength without water weight gains. Oxandrolone will not aromatize at any dosage. Which makes it ideal for steroid users with potential hypertension complications as well as pre-existing gynecomastia.

Counterfeits: Legitimate oxandrolone rarely shows up on the American black market but is found abundantly in Europe; it is Counterfeited under the generic and brand names.. The Brazilian Lipidex form of real Anavar, comes under the Searle label in foil templates in strips of ten tabs.

Effectiveness Rating: 8
 
 
Good info.....even if I didnt read it (sorry long posts and me hummmmm a bad duo). But you forgot one manufacturer probably the cheapest on earth and the only one to make the 10 mg tabs (used to make 40 mg before).........lol
 
anavar=OX

my former post will help administration and relevant questions:

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54238

also i put a pic of BTG on the gear pic board

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47677

it is also IMO that BTG puts out the most potent and cleanest ox on the market right now and it possible to get by either prescription or black market. No fakes have been discovered yet and since it is domestic, you can always call in and verify the lot numbers if you are unsure.
ttkyo VS BTG.... ***** for BTG!!!!

Great research "leg work" for the women TripleV :)
 
I think Warlobo would say stick with the tabs from large pharmaceutical companies if you are a woman.......the dosage checks are much more stringent. Of course I could have just guessed wrong :)

tripleV said:
don't guess here, we dont want any trouble.
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supergirl said:
anavar=OX

my former post will help administration and relevant questions:

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54238

also i put a pic of BTG on the gear pic board

http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47677

it is also IMO that BTG puts out the most potent and cleanest ox on the market right now and it possible to get by either prescription or black market. No fakes have been discovered yet and since it is domestic, you can always call in and verify the lot numbers if you are unsure.
ttkyo VS BTG.... ***** for BTG!!!!

Great research "leg work" for the women TripleV :)
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forget about BTG and Ttokkyo..... too expensive. And its only 2.5 mg tabs. I dont want to start the old discussion about if ** is good stuff or not but I know someone on another board has done several tests on it and found that his Anavar was usually 9.8 mg. So it isnt that bad, considering the price you pay for it.
 
manny78 said:




forget about BTG and Ttokkyo..... too expensive. And its only 2.5 mg tabs. I dont want to start the old discussion about if ** is good stuff or not but I know someone on another board has done several tests on it and found that his Anavar was usually 9.8 mg. So it isnt that bad, considering the price you pay for it.
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ok.. since you are on the womans board.. please allow me to put you straight... AS A FEMALE.. i don't want to take 9.8 mg at once... firstly a dosage of 10mg of anavar a day is sufficent and considering the fact that anavar only has a half life of 6-8 hours, the more frequently the dosage, the more effective it is.. SO as far as your "forget about BTG and TTokyo" comment.. please keep your reccommendations on the anabolic board unless they are researched evidence in regards to WOMEN...
and if you can't afford the "good" stuff... don't bother at all.. the body is not something to be fucked with, especially as a WOMAN.
and if you have a personal problem with my reply... deal with it or pm me don't air it on the board!!!
 
supergirl said:

ok.. since you are on the womans board.. please allow me to put you straight... AS A FEMALE.. i don't want to take 9.8 mg at once... firstly a dosage of 10mg of anavar a day is sufficent and considering the fact that anavar only has a half life of 6-8 hours, the more frequently the dosage, the more effective it is.. SO as far as your "forget about BTG and TTokyo" comment.. please keep your reccommendations on the anabolic board unless they are researched evidence in regards to WOMEN...
and if you can't afford the "good" stuff... don't bother at all.. the body is not something to be fucked with, especially as a WOMAN.
and if you have a personal problem with my reply... deal with it or pm me don't air it on the board!!!
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you're damn stupid....... dont know how to cut a tab ? what do you think I do with his 50 mg Dbols tabs ? Take one and bingo ? Look low minded I've tried Ttokkyo, Jelfa, Organon and Brovel and of course ** but just realized it was the same shit.... dont worry I'm pretty sure I've more money than you will ever but I'm not damn idiot to go pay 3-4 times for a good brand lol Do you know how he makes his stuff ? Did you know for example that his sustanon is just Organon rebottled with more test prop ? No you dont jerk.... By the way go read this:

http://www.anabolex.com/members/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9930&highlight=anavar+lab


p.s: stay on the Club and party board, you're better there....
 
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and if you have a personal problem with my reply... deal with it or pm me don't air it on the board!!!
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ABSOLUTELY....manny78 since you obviously are very knowledgable on the subject...one would think that you would be able to make your point without resorting to personal attacks.

You seem to have alot of valuable information that you could add to this thread...slander not being one of them.
 
Hannibal said:


ABSOLUTELY....manny78 since you obviously are very knowledgable on the subject...one would think that you would be able to make your point without resorting to personal attacks.

You seem to have alot of valuable information that you could add to this thread...slander not being one of them.
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I know dude, but this stuff pisses me off..... especially that quote. Ye you're attacking my knowledge but then you want me to shut my mouth and deal this in private. No way, whats discussed in public must remain in PUBLIC !!!

I'm just tired of this whole ** bashing game. I'm part of his business, but I see so many people trying to diss his product when they never tried any of them. I do know that for any newbie its suspicious since his prices are pretty ridiculous (I know I have many e-mails asking me about him being legit lol) but his tabs are good as you can see on the link I posted. As for his injectables one recommandation: Oven !!!! sterilize any of it....
 
Ok so the tabs tested as 8.9 to 11 mg (the testers stats say 8.7-10.9 which is worse) in this batch.....only 5 were tested so the error margins could be worse. Now assuming you are going to cut up the tabs, how evenly can you cut them? That could introduce another 15% (or more) error?? I think this is the point that Supergirl was making......women really dont need those inconsistencies.

Also, I've yet to see a hard copy of this test. I believe that this is the reason somebody from this board is testing another batch.

Theres little doubt that ** is a good source. He has been around for a long time. But women really shouldnt be taking any risks.


manny78 said:



you're damn stupid....... dont know how to cut a tab ? what do you think I do with his 50 mg Dbols tabs ? Take one and bingo ? Look low minded I've tried Ttokkyo, Jelfa, Organon and Brovel and of course ** but just realized it was the same shit.... dont worry I'm pretty sure I've more money than you will ever but I'm not damn idiot to go pay 3-4 times for a good brand lol Do you know how he makes his stuff ? Did you know for example that his sustanon is just Organon rebottled with more test prop ? No you dont jerk.... By the way go read this:

http://www.anabolex.com/members/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9930&highlight=anavar+lab


p.s: stay on the Club and party board, you're better there....
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OK so the ttokkyos which are the only other kind you can even get these days are 5 mg tabs.

The ones unders scrutiny are ~ 10mg at ~ 25% the cost.
You can cut these, so what if you get 4 mg AM, 6 mg pm or something like that?

I am cutting my winny tabs right now (10mg) into 4!!! I never get a perfect cut either! I am taking it 3 X a day, I would do the same with the anavar. It is never really precise when you cut tabs anyways.

And the guy was just trying to help me out by ppointing out that there was another option for anavar. I don't blame him for getting a little upset at the attackes when his intentions were good and hepful to begin with.

Peace!
 
Imnotdutch said:
Ok so the tabs tested as 8.9 to 11 mg (the testers stats say 8.7-10.9 which is worse) in this batch.....only 5 were tested so the error margins could be worse. Now assuming you are going to cut up the tabs, how evenly can you cut them? That could introduce another 15% (or more) error?? I think this is the point that Supergirl was making......women really dont need those inconsistencies.

Also, I've yet to see a hard copy of this test. I believe that this is the reason somebody from this board is testing another batch.

Theres little doubt that ** is a good source. He has been around for a long time. But women really shouldnt be taking any risks.
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Bro at least I think I can have a civilized discussion with you. Thats a good start. Look did you ever took some coke ? If yes after 2-3 times you get used in the art of splitting tracks. Thats what I do with any of his tabs. I crush them then I split them. My point was what would you prefer ? The precision of Ttokkyo ? or the cost of ** tabs ? Big deal if you take 6 mg in the morning then 4 mg, this wont make a difference at all. Its like saying "oh my God no more Sustanon now I have to rely on Omnadren !"...lol

ANyway I know you have some doubts on it and you aren't the only one very knowledgable persons like Conan69 have some too....
 
Manny78,

Hehehe no I never did coke :)

The way I see it is, women dont have to use alot to see results so the cycles doesnt cost a great deal. You might as well pay for stuff you know is dosed well and you know precisely what it is.

It doesnt take alot to give women masculinising sides so why risk it?

TripleV,

I'm not going to argue with you. I know that he is only pointing out a good place to go......show where I say I have a problem with that. However, I would go with a source that I know does stringent checks.....that is my point. What you prob arent aware of is that if this person gets his raw materials in the form I think they come in, I know for a fact (from another source who uses similar materials and has had checks done) that this sometimes isnt reliable. It isn't the sources fault.....

And if you are willing to put up with 20+% error in dosing, well good luck to you.


manny78 said:



Bro at least I think I can have a civilized discussion with you. Thats a good start. Look did you ever took some coke ? If yes after 2-3 times you get used in the art of splitting tracks. Thats what I do with any of his tabs. I crush them then I split them. My point was what would you prefer ? The precision of Ttokkyo ? or the cost of ** tabs ? Big deal if you take 6 mg in the morning then 4 mg, this wont make a difference at all. Its like saying "oh my God no more Sustanon now I have to rely on Omnadren !"...lol

ANyway I know you have some doubts on it and you aren't the only one very knowledgable persons like Conan69 have some too....
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MANNY78... Firstly the whole point i was making is what imnotdutch reiterated on... WOMAN CAN NOT TAKE STUPID RISKS WITH GEAR or else the adverse reactions can be severe and permanant.. If you are an advocate of ** that is fine.. but it is not 100% whereas BTG IS 100% Doctors prescribe BTG to cancer patients as well as AIDS patients.. so MY point is that why take unnecessary risks when for a little more money ($200 per bottle) you can get the best..

As per your personal attacks on me and telling me which board you feel i should stay on.. the "low minded" comment and you have more money than i ever will... LMAO @ you.. hope it feels good to stoop to that level.
and that was a great coke comparision LOL
 
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MANNY78... Firstly the whole point i was making is what Sexual Mustard reiterated on... WOMAN CAN NOT TAKE STUPID RISKS WITH GEAR or else the adverse reactions can be severe and permanant.. If you are an advocate of ** that is fine.. but it is not 100% whereas BTG IS 100% Doctors prescribe BTG to cancer patients as well as AIDS patients.. so MY point is that why take unnecessary risks when for a little more money ($200 per bottle) you can get the best..

As per your personal attacks on me and telling me which board you feel i should stay on.. the "low minded" comment and you have more money than i ever will... LMAO @ you.. hope it feels good to stoop to that level.
and that was a great coke comparision LOL
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There's one sentence that caught my attention "a little more money (200$ per bottle)" I hope you only need one bottle lol Well if 50$ vs 200$ (Canadian dollars I hope ? no ?) is just a little more money well well....no comments lol Cause thats what it costed to my GF for one cycle 10 mg for 8 weeks. If you only knew where he gets his powder (just like Imnodutch mentionned and I'm sure we're talking about the same place) well you would be surprised........
 
manny78 said:


There's one sentence that caught my attention "a little more money (200$ per bottle)" I hope you only need one bottle lol Well if 50$ vs 200$ (Canadian dollars I hope ? no ?) is just a little more money well well....no comments lol Cause thats what it costed to my GF for one cycle 10 mg for 8 weeks. If you only knew where he gets his powder (just like Imnodutch mentionned and I'm sure we're talking about the same place) well you would be surprised........
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$200 a bottle for 100% legit BTG ox is not expensive, especially considering the pharmacy sells it for $400. And the Ttokyo's are about the same price

what do you get a commission on **'s stuff.. because you sure push it as much as you can. Why don't you just back off Manny and realize that the point is about getting the best product on the market... Some things are worth spending the extra cash on.. and getting 100% legit stuff is worth every penny.

It is like shopping in k-mart or at gucci.. some of us just like the BEST!!!
 
Well well me and other members (including mods) had the same discussion one month ago with some people (again including mods). One many times will I have to say this: they aren't operating in a basement ! So many bros think ** is a lonely nerd locked in his basement. Once again I would be careful with their injectables but their tabs are 100% legit (at least those I tried, Dbol, arimidex, anavar, winny, viagra, super clen). Whats the worst could happen with their tabs ?

Unfortunately I dont have any commission. That would be cool. But he's too selfish for that lol
 
manny78 said:
Well well me and other members (including mods) had the same discussion one month ago with some people (again including mods). One many times will I have to say this: they aren't operating in a basement ! So many bros think ** is a lonely nerd locked in his basement. Once again I would be careful with their injectables but their tabs are 100% legit (at least those I tried, Dbol, arimidex, anavar, winny, viagra, super clen). Whats the worst could happen with their tabs ?

Unfortunately I dont have any commission. That would be cool. But he's too selfish for that lol
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the worst that could happen??? come on.. imagine a woman thinking she is ordering anavar and accidently getting dbols or even worse... All i am saying is it is better to be safe than sorry, and you can not be 100% with his stuff.. i and others (including mods) have also had this debate and we are a little weary of it, especially when you are dealing with WOMEN and i can not stress enough the precautions we must take when using gear.. Manny i hope you can understand why i feel so strongly about be 100% sure of what you are taking and making sure it is 100% legit.. maybe you men feel you can take chances.. "what is the worse that could happen" but WOMEN can not.. our sides can be much more severe. PRECAUTION AND RESEARCH are the 2 key words in considering and doing any cycle. And if i have to spend extra money to get the best, then i will and not regret it at all.. :)
 
tripleV said:
bump for pinky girl
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Thanks triple V, that is... I dont have words in english to explained my joy!!! C'est superbe, magnifique, extraordinaire... :)

And like you would preker, you really are a little bee!!! :)
 
supergirl said:


$200 a bottle for 100% legit BTG ox is not expensive, especially considering the pharmacy sells it for $400. And the Ttokyo's are about the same price

what do you get a commission on **'s stuff.. because you sure push it as much as you can. Why don't you just back off Manny and realize that the point is about getting the best product on the market... Some things are worth spending the extra cash on.. and getting 100% legit stuff is worth every penny.

It is like shopping in k-mart or at gucci.. some of us just like the BEST!!!
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hahahaha, that Gucci comment kills me!!!!

Hey supergirl, if you have so mutch money $$$, wanna pay my cycle??? Didnt think so... I'll stick with K-Mart :) :) :)

You know what triple V, for me this is like the difference between Tylenol and the brand that you can get at the pharmacy with no name. Tylenol was the first to get it so popular, but the other pharmacy lab was able to reproduce it and so you save on the price. And if you want, I will be your guinea-pig (how long will it be before you start your cycle of anavar, and by the way, how is the winny cycle???), and i'll PM you some before and after (when it will be after... :) ) pictures. You'll be the judge.

Oh, and has you know, i'm doing the half pill for a week, full pill of 10 mg (now can you guess witch one I'm taking, yes yes, the ** :) )for the next 7 to 8 weeks, and down again with half pill for one week. Lets say after the 5 weeks, i'll send you the pics.

So, good luck to make up your mind with all that discussion!!!

Chao!
 
Pinky Girl said:


oh, and has you know, i'm doing the half pill for a week, full pill of 10 mg (now can you guess witch one I'm taking, yes yes, the ** :) )for the next 7 to 8 weeks, and down again with half pill for one week. Lets say after the 5 weeks, i'll send you the pics.



Chao!
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good luck with it.. i really hope you get good results and no SIDES.. if you are gonna use the 10, i would cut it and use half in the morning and half at night.. better results because it is in your body more frequently that way. I just hope it is clean and you have no problems.. good luck and keep us informed :)

i am in my second week of BTG and can say with all confidence that it is more potent than TTokyo was.. I personally have never used ** so i am curious to see your results.
 
Pinky Girl: Glad to hear you made such a good decision. You wont be disappointed at all. But dont forget that a good diet and of course dedication at your gym are also the keys to get results. Keep us posted on your cycle.:angel:
 
manny78 said:
Pinky Girl: Glad to hear you made such a good decision. You wont be disappointed at all.
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it is not "such a good" decision... it is the cheap decision, but it is a decision... so as you said manny.. a good diet and hard training are key.. you need to tell ** to give you commission lol, you are worse than a cars salesman :D
 
supergirl said:


it is not "such a good" decision... it is the cheap decision, but it is a decision... so as you said manny.. a good diet and hard training are key.. you need to tell ** to give you commission lol, you are worse than a cars salesman :D
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Had a talk with ** on this......its a big NO lol
 
best of luck Pinky Girl and yes keep me posted... i wanna see before pics...email me them if you want..you can see mine on this board... :)
 
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