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Damn I wish I was that powerful. Anytime i have ever used a low kick it has always knocked the person off balance. It never ended a fight.
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Damn I wish I was that powerful. Anytime i have ever used a low kick it has always knocked the person off balance. It never ended a fight.
muscledog95
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I think I understand where he is coming from. Hes trying to improve on muscular endurance. Which ive seen the effects of having that. When it comes down to a fight, Size, strength, endurance can only go so far. Its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog.
Thaibox
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LK2, you've gotta understand bro, that you're still in the early stage of your training.
Look at the progress ratio of muscle gain to that of endurance gain
It takes years to pack on quality functioning muscle, whereas it takes months to take your body to a decent level of endurance capability. It is very difficult to do both simultaneously. Therefore, take advantage of your young age, and build that muscle, because if you beging fighting THEN realize you aren't powerful enough, it will be much more difficult to pack on muscle while you're training to go the distance. I don't care how experienced you are, when you step in the ring with someone with diamond calves and serious quad drops, its intimidating because you know you're facing a machine and not just some lightweight go-rounder.
#1 Build a big powerful machine
#2 Train the machine to fight
Look at the progress ratio of muscle gain to that of endurance gain
It takes years to pack on quality functioning muscle, whereas it takes months to take your body to a decent level of endurance capability. It is very difficult to do both simultaneously. Therefore, take advantage of your young age, and build that muscle, because if you beging fighting THEN realize you aren't powerful enough, it will be much more difficult to pack on muscle while you're training to go the distance. I don't care how experienced you are, when you step in the ring with someone with diamond calves and serious quad drops, its intimidating because you know you're facing a machine and not just some lightweight go-rounder.
#1 Build a big powerful machine
#2 Train the machine to fight
legion... come on man. i thought you just got back in this game after some injuries. why dont you just do pushups WITH 5x5 chest workout... just do it. the only reason you cant do 3 x 30 pushups is because you have not been doing pushups. come on man. you said, "i want to fight", then fight, take your classes and do CARDIO. endurance is KEY, you want to be able to fight and fight for a long time. why dont you just do some weights plus some endurance stuff, and go from there....
Legion Kreinak2
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That's what I originally was thinking, Tsarl, some type of cross-training.
But even as Thai had said, it's very difficult to go both. And I'm an extremist. I feel it's useless to try and maximize my endurance, when doing so will hinder my strength gains.
But even as Thai had said, it's very difficult to go both. And I'm an extremist. I feel it's useless to try and maximize my endurance, when doing so will hinder my strength gains.
Thaibox
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You really need to figure out what type of fighter you are naturally. Are you a defensive guy that plays with his opponents and strategizes for a while making small incrimental attacks or are you more aggressive and find your natural comfort in destroying your opponent as soon as possible. Both have their advantages/disadvantages, but finding out which you are more predisposed to doing naturally will help determine your training.
I use to be a distance fighter(thin but fast and could go for hours), until I praticed more practical arts and realized the huge asset strength and power really were. Of course its only my opinion, but I think that the cyclic doctrine of stamina and negativity towards bulk is outdated by a new generation of fighters that realize the potential of being able to devastate opponents more quickly. Obviously boxing doesn't place the immediately quick time demands as a real fight does, but being able to demolish your opponent with awesome power has been lost in many boxing schools that stress too much cardio. Of course stamina is important. And if you're a close equal to your opponent, the potential of a loss increases with time, but again it depends on you. Anyway, find your strengths and build upon those.
For now, at your size, I would focus on size and power...continue the 5X5 and train in fighting to a low extent that minimizes cardio for a few years, so you can learn the combative strategies, gain knowledge, yet still keep muscle gains.
I hope you understand my ramblings, I'm on some vicodin and Somas
Anyway, who wants to see 2 130 lb guys dance for a dozen rounds, when the excitement and true nature of combat is found within the knowledgable and powerful heavyweights.
I use to be a distance fighter(thin but fast and could go for hours), until I praticed more practical arts and realized the huge asset strength and power really were. Of course its only my opinion, but I think that the cyclic doctrine of stamina and negativity towards bulk is outdated by a new generation of fighters that realize the potential of being able to devastate opponents more quickly. Obviously boxing doesn't place the immediately quick time demands as a real fight does, but being able to demolish your opponent with awesome power has been lost in many boxing schools that stress too much cardio. Of course stamina is important. And if you're a close equal to your opponent, the potential of a loss increases with time, but again it depends on you. Anyway, find your strengths and build upon those.
For now, at your size, I would focus on size and power...continue the 5X5 and train in fighting to a low extent that minimizes cardio for a few years, so you can learn the combative strategies, gain knowledge, yet still keep muscle gains.
I hope you understand my ramblings, I'm on some vicodin and Somas
Anyway, who wants to see 2 130 lb guys dance for a dozen rounds, when the excitement and true nature of combat is found within the knowledgable and powerful heavyweights.
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