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[cytrix]

type 2b fibers are easily damaged by eccentric trauma and then those fibers are being removed by the body with the help of cortisol, which is released very much every time you do a lot of eccentric work. that measn muscle loss!

if you avoid doing the eccentric part as much as possible by still keeping control, the body will greatly reduce cortisol output, and those 2b fibers will infuse with sattelite cells with the help of IGF-1 to form huge
type 2c fibers!

that's why drugusers have such musclegrowth, the cortisol output is reduced, cortisol receptors blocked, and IGF-1 increased, thus it comes to forming of huge 2c fibers - i think it's called hyperplasia. but, naturals cam also duplicate this effect to some extend by mostly eliminating the eccentric portion.

this is what i've heard. does anyone have experience with this? how do you best incorperate this kind of training, maybe alternate every few weeks, between this and more eccentric/traumatic workouts?

 

[cytrix]

anybody?

 

[Belial]

That's absolutely incorrect. 90% of it, at least. Where did you hear that??

 

[Belial]

How about this.

type 2b fibers are easily damaged by eccentric trauma and then those fibers are being removed by the body with the help of cortisol, which is released very much every time you do a lot of eccentric work. that measn muscle loss!

Those fibers are not "removed" by the body; though certainly eccentric movement causes more trauma, the cortisol levels are not immediately higher, and will certainly not be enough to destroy muscle fibers more than a heavy "conventional" workout.


and those 2b fibers will infuse with sattelite cells with the help of IGF-1 to form huge
type 2c fibers!



You're describing a theory of how muscle growth takes place, but it's BADLY butchered here, and certainly avoiding the eccentric and lowering cortisol levels has little to do with the process itself (Though muscle growth cannot take place with elevated cortisol levels, a good high-carb meal will lower levels enough). WTF is a "huge type 2c fiber" anyway?



that's why drugusers have such musclegrowth, the cortisol output is reduced, cortisol receptors blocked, and IGF-1 increased, thus it comes to forming of huge 2c fibers - i think it's called hyperplasia. but, naturals cam also duplicate this effect to some extend by mostly eliminating the eccentric portion.



Hyperplasia is the actual multiplying of muscle fibers. It has not been proven to occur in humans. true, users of anabolics benefit from lower cortisol levels and higher IGF-1 levels, but that's certainly not ALL. Naturals cannot "duplicate" this by avoiding the eccentric. The eccentric is actually, in many ways, superior for hypertrophy.



this is what i've heard. does anyone have experience with this? how do you best incorperate this kind of training, maybe alternate every few weeks, between this and more eccentric/traumatic workouts?

It IS a good idea to take some time off heavy eccentric movements. By this, I mean it can be a good idea to do heavy eccentrics for a week, maybe even failing on the eccentric, and lift normally for the next 2-3 weeks. it IS more traumatic, and continuous heavy eccentric workouts can result in accumulation of microtrauma, and therefore overtraining.