Max clean and press

[Tiervexx]

i recently started doing these, and i really like the feel in my shoulders while doing very low rep sets. i am curous as to how much you guys can do.

also does anyone here know how much the world record is on this?

i have only been training serously for about 5 months(i'm 16), so i was happy to get 155, but i am sure that some of you would destroy that.

 

[Sully810]

clean and press

The wr in the clean and jerk is over 500lbs...not sure about a normal clean and push press,although there are people who are probably in the 400range.155 is good for your age..keep working on your speed and technique and it will keep going up.My biggest problem is leg drive and lockout..I also hesitate alot when doing singles.Have only done around 190 on a 2"bar

 

[wguitarg]

Hey Tiervexx,

I'm glad you decided to incorporate cleans into your program, as they were a staple of my program during my football years(lol, uhh, that would be last year). I'm 18, weigh 195 and powercleaned 245 as of yesterday.

 

[Tiervexx]

just in case i wasent clear on this, i ment clean and PRESS not clean and jerk, or clean and push press.

when i cleaned 155 i pressed it with knees locked

i know that some people have cleaned and jerked over 500, but i have no idea how much people can clean and press.

 

[Sully810]

It would probably be whatever they can strict press without a clean.Most people can clean alot more than they can strict press so the clean wouldnt really be much of an issue.I know there are people who could do 315 with a clean and strict press...not really sure how much after that

 

[Nico Cujo]

I've clean and pressed 231# at a bodyweight of 218# when I was 42. The highest official clean and press was by Alexeev with 521.25#.

 

[zackdarnell]

I've clean and pressed 231# at a bodyweight of 218# when I was 42. The highest official clean and press was by Alexeev with 521.25#.

You sure that was a strict press and not a jerk?

 

[Sully810]

Alexeev's 521.25 was a jerk..still an amazing lift.I think when most people say clean and press,the press is a jerk or push press.Still couldnt tell you much about a strict press record

 

[coolcolj]

Shane Hamman best regular press is 374 lbs and push press 440 lbs.

I'm sure he could power clean both of those numbers .

He can clean and jerk 511.5 lbs
http://www.fdzine.com/benn/2002nat/Hamman232.mov

 

[zackdarnell]

Alexeev's 521.25 was a jerk..still an amazing lift.I think when most people say clean and press,the press is a jerk or push press.

There is a big difference.

 

[AnimalMass1]

why do such a strict press? I think for football and whatnot, the push press would be much better for explosion as well as working your posterior chain in the pressing motion better than a strict press.

Also, you don't want the press holding you back in your cleans. The clean is a much better exercise than the pressing motion for a young football player.

I have clean a push pressed 275, but it's been awhile. My workout partner has a bet going at his job where he is a personal trainer working with athletes, and the head olympic trainer told him he couldn't clean 400. After the meet, in two weeks I he'll do it. He can deadlift 700, so I think it wouldn't be a problem to clean it as explosive as he is.

AnimalMass

 

[b fold the truth]

I've done 305 on a 10" log...not sure what I could do with a bar...

B True

 

[Tiervexx]

why do such a strict press? I think for football and whatnot, the push press would be much better for explosion as well as working your posterior chain in the pressing motion better than a strict press.

Also, you don't want the press holding you back in your cleans. The clean is a much better exercise than the pressing motion for a young football player.
AnimalMass

i also do regular cleans

i got interested in clean and press(with knees locked) because it is a frequent event at many strongman competitions. clean and press has a different feel to it then military press which is why i do both of those.

and BTW, i don't play foot ball so i am not interested in sport specific training, i am just trying to develop brute strength.

i also do push presses sometimes after i am too fatigued to do anymore heavy military presses i do a few push presses with the weight to make sure that my shoulders are completely fatigued

if anyone has any suggestions on how to devolope power in the shoulders i would like to hear them

 

[Sully810]

The Clean and press in most strongman competitions is a push press,or jerk(if its allowed).You might run across a strict press somewhere along the line,but I havent seen one yet.For me,triceps seem to be the bigest part of any type of overhead pressing....french presses and skull crushers seem to work well.Strongman competitor Shawn Smith has done over 500lbs on seated military lockouts,for reps.Im sure those would also be beneficial.
A friend of mine said that his overhead pressing went up the most after he started working hard to up his flat bench press.His best push press around july was about 270(before he worked on gaining strength on bench pressing),2 weeks ago he push pressed 310 for a double.

 

[b fold the truth]

Chad Smith...placed 6th in the US qualifier for the World's Strongest Man...did a seated overhead press with 405 for 2 reps this past summer

B True

 

[Nico Cujo]

Alexeev clean and pressed 521 when his clean and jerk was 523.
He didn't perform a military press, but an olympic press, which included knee kick and layback. It almost looked like a standing bench press. That's why the press was eliminated from competition at the end of 1972. It was too hard to judge. Ken Patera could press 550 from the rack in the same style. Take a look here:
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Field/7342/Alxv.html