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jackbrown2
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Hello all,
First, a little background. I am 27 years old, and have always been of slight build, albeit with varying degrees of body fat. Even at 230 pounds a few years ago, I didn't have substantially more muscle than I do now. In fact, I probably had less.
I have been getting in shape over the last 2 years, mainly from running. It helped me get down to about 160 pounds. At times, I dieted to lose belly fat and get thinner (150 lbs.), but had so little muscle I looked like crap. So, I would allow the weight to come back on.
I quit running two months ago, and have been doing a beginner full-body lifting plan 3 days a week. I have been following a strict diet, with 6 meals a day, calories at 200 over maintenance, 160+ g protein per day. Now,I weigh 159 lbs. I have 5.5" wrists and 12" biceps, just to give you an idea of my unimpressive musculature. I have made modest gains in the last 2 months, but am frustrated with the pace of progress.
I have read many threads where beginners (usually very young at age 18 or so) are told not to use pro hormones. Is my situation any different?
I have been contemplating doing a cycle of M-sten to kick start some gains and give me the inspiration to continue. I don't want to get huge; I'd like to gain 15-20 pounds of muscle and keep it on. I know I could probably do this naturally over 1-2 years, but don't want to wait that long. If M-sten could help me pack on 7 or so pounds of muscle, I think it would motivate me to continue.
I know that I would also need to run liver support and PCT. My plan is to lift for 3 more months or so, and then do the M-sten cycle (with Advanced Cycle Support). I plan to use Clomid post-cycle. On cycle, and post, I would up the daily calories to 200% of maintenance, with lots of protein. Obviously, I would put forth the effort with the weights.
I am expecting some people to discourage this plan. If you do that, please tell me why. I don't care if I am compromising my ability to get huge in the long run. I don't want to get huge. I'd just like enough muscle to not look emaciated at low body fat. Since I am not as young as most beginners who post similar questions, I don't have the same endocrine risks as a teen, although I am aware of the potential side-effects.
I get the impression that many people who use ph are doing so to get bigger than their genetic potential would dictate, after years of lifting. In such a situation, it makes sense that the gains would be lost after the cycle. I am hoping that my situation is different. I would just like to speed up the process of putting on a modest amount of muscle. This seems like a reasonable way to do it.
Any help is appreciated!
Thanks.
First, a little background. I am 27 years old, and have always been of slight build, albeit with varying degrees of body fat. Even at 230 pounds a few years ago, I didn't have substantially more muscle than I do now. In fact, I probably had less.
I have been getting in shape over the last 2 years, mainly from running. It helped me get down to about 160 pounds. At times, I dieted to lose belly fat and get thinner (150 lbs.), but had so little muscle I looked like crap. So, I would allow the weight to come back on.
I quit running two months ago, and have been doing a beginner full-body lifting plan 3 days a week. I have been following a strict diet, with 6 meals a day, calories at 200 over maintenance, 160+ g protein per day. Now,I weigh 159 lbs. I have 5.5" wrists and 12" biceps, just to give you an idea of my unimpressive musculature. I have made modest gains in the last 2 months, but am frustrated with the pace of progress.
I have read many threads where beginners (usually very young at age 18 or so) are told not to use pro hormones. Is my situation any different?
I have been contemplating doing a cycle of M-sten to kick start some gains and give me the inspiration to continue. I don't want to get huge; I'd like to gain 15-20 pounds of muscle and keep it on. I know I could probably do this naturally over 1-2 years, but don't want to wait that long. If M-sten could help me pack on 7 or so pounds of muscle, I think it would motivate me to continue.
I know that I would also need to run liver support and PCT. My plan is to lift for 3 more months or so, and then do the M-sten cycle (with Advanced Cycle Support). I plan to use Clomid post-cycle. On cycle, and post, I would up the daily calories to 200% of maintenance, with lots of protein. Obviously, I would put forth the effort with the weights.
I am expecting some people to discourage this plan. If you do that, please tell me why. I don't care if I am compromising my ability to get huge in the long run. I don't want to get huge. I'd just like enough muscle to not look emaciated at low body fat. Since I am not as young as most beginners who post similar questions, I don't have the same endocrine risks as a teen, although I am aware of the potential side-effects.
I get the impression that many people who use ph are doing so to get bigger than their genetic potential would dictate, after years of lifting. In such a situation, it makes sense that the gains would be lost after the cycle. I am hoping that my situation is different. I would just like to speed up the process of putting on a modest amount of muscle. This seems like a reasonable way to do it.
Any help is appreciated!
Thanks.
