Let the the Transdermal Tren/Test stack begin!

[kravmaga02]

nope no gyno and yes you are right thats what it says. Ive been taking arimidex too (supposedly). I'm not sure how to interpret this but I'm shocked ive made any gains at all with this panel and that I dont have bitch tits already

 

[seandh07]

nope no gyno and yes you are right thats what it says. Ive been taking arimidex too (supposedly). I'm not sure how to interpret this but I'm shocked ive made any gains at all with this panel and that I dont have bitch tits already

I have to agree. Staying in good shape with a healthy diet with regular gym time is proven to increase test production naturally and lower estrogen. This panel boggles my mind. It's almost as if the transdermal is working in a negative way. I'm contemplating stopping my winny transdermal now if its effecting negatively.

 

[kravmaga02]

ya im a little freaked out by it. I've been making gains, not crazy but still making them, all with levels like this?

I guess it shows what a better diet and more intense training will do for you lol even if your hormones are shit you can still look better than good hormones with bad diet...

 

[seandh07]

ya im a little freaked out by it. I've been making gains, not crazy but still making them, all with levels like this?

I guess it shows what a better diet and more intense training will do for you lol even if your hormones are shit you can still look better than good hormones with bad diet...

This is a bummer man! Hopefully Needto can get to the bottom of this for us. But on the bright side, look at the gains you've made, naturally and with low T. If I were you I'd stop and pct and retake bloods to make sure you're body is good. There may be something with these transdermals having a reverse effect, maybe not all product but a few batches. Like I said. Pct abs new bloods just to make sure you don't have low T, then if course if you do, that just mea a pharm grade shit by script!! Lol look for the positive or something like that!

 

[kravmaga02]

Ya i think im gunna start PCT, this is weird. I'm trying to stay positive about it I don't want this to get in the way of the progress that I have been making on my own

 

[seandh07]

Ya i think im gunna start PCT, this is weird. I'm trying to stay positive about it I don't want this to get in the way of the progress that I have been making on my own

Stay positive bro, you've made hella good gains obviously natty, don't let a product default slow you down. Keep making gains to achieve a better base. Then think of the gains you'll get when you go legit!!

 

[kravmaga02]

thanks bro I appreciate that

 

[ceo]

Tonight was chest, had a spotter so I was able to go a little heavier than normal:

Bench 4 x 5-10
Db incline 3 x 15, 10, 6
Pulley flyes 9 x failure (pyramid sets)
pull overs 3 x 15

abs

I've started doing 20 mins moderate cardio before each session. I want to shed the rest of this belly fat and I feel like that is the best way to do it. My diet is pretty good now I think I just want to speed up the fat burn a bit.

I noticed the other day after fasting I looked pretty ripped that morning. I was wondering what yall would think about me not doing carbs at night post workout anymore. Just good fats and protein.

I don't want to lose strength from cutting too many carbs, but at the same time I can feel myself getting close to that point where my abs start to show better. Do yall think I should cut out carbs after 8 or just stay with the slow and steady route?

you should do your cardio after lifting weights for better fat burning.

 

[kravmaga02]

Ok I will change that then

 

[ballslee]

hey man i think it could be the tren is working for you still. because you are shut down. like your fsh and lh is way low and that indicates shut down. therefore, the tren is definitely working.
but the test being low is the weird part. and estrogen so high even though your taking arimidex.....well the estrogen skyrocketed from you stopping the AI and upping your dose of test. therefore the test is working.

the only weird result is the test 200. my guess here is that, your body is getting some test but not using it all and maybe you have a lot of SHBG bound to it. the increase in estrogen tho clearly shows it is real IN MY OPINION