L-Glutamine and Bromocriptine for sustained Growth Hormone release

[SirWanksalot]

It seems that if GHB and Bromocriptine can make sustained growth hormone in the body and do away with the resulting prolactin increase problem thereby allowing for benefits that HGH offers.

Then L-Glutamine and Bromocriptine may accomplish the same thing because oral glutamine (2 grams) raises growth hormone over 400% above baseline and sustain elevated amounts up to 90 minutes after ingestion.

For this to work, prolonged sustained growth releases would be required. that would necessitate multiple 2 gram glutamine dosing throughout day.

If you are currently taking bromo for gyno or weight loss or post cycle gainskeeper formula, then including a teaspoon of L-glutamine 4 to 6 times a day couldn't hurt, and it may just help.

Sirwanksalot





Heres a few clips found about the L-glutamine study

There has been some discussion regarding glutamine's absorption and stability. One of the most quoted studies regarding the effects of oral glutamine had the subjects consume glutamine combined with soda pop, which acted as its vehicle of transport. In this study the average increase in growth hormone was 400% for a glutamine dosage of 2g dissolved in about 10 oz of a carbonated soft drink. Plasma glutamine and growth hormone both increased and there was an increase in the use of fat as an energy source. Glutamine + Club Soda for muscle preservation and growth hormone anyone?

Am J Clin Nutr 1995 May;61(5):1058-61

Increased plasma bicarbonate and growth hormone after an oral glutamine load.

An oral glutamine load was administered to nine healthy subjects to determine the effect on plasma glutamine, bicarbonate, and circulating growth hormone concentrations. Two grams glutamine were dissolved in a cola drink and ingested over a 20-min period 45 min after a light breakfast. Forearm venous blood samples were obtained at zero time and at 30-min intervals for 90 min and compared with time controls obtained 1 wk earlier. Eight of nine subjects responded to the oral glutamine load with an increase in plasma glutamine at 30 and 60 min before returning to the control value at 90 min. Ninety minutes after the glutamine administration load both plasma bicarbonate concentration and circulating plasma growth hormone concentration were elevated. These findings demonstrate that a surprisingly small oral glutamine load is capable of elevating alkaline reserves as well as plasma growth hormone.

http://www.lifeandsport.com/research/glutsoda.htm

http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abs...&stored_search=&FIRSTINDEX=0&journalcode=ajcn
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[ZKaudio]

sweeet...

 

[Zyglamail]

Looks good on paper, but reality is something different. As we all know, the body constantly tries to achieve and maintain homeostasis. This is often done by variations in various hormones to compensate for increases or decreases.

In the case of GH there are multiple regulating factors. There is a long-loop, short loop and ultra short loop feedback mechanism. With that in mind I feel that sooner or later the body would level out the release.

Also keep in mind that prolactin and GH are extremely close in chemical makeup. The genes of GH and PRL, which are phylogenetically derived from a common GH-like ancestrial gene, are found on chromosome 17 and 6 respectivly. And in actuality GH can crossreact with PR and actually occupy and activate the PR receptor and one reason people who suffer from acromegaly often lactate. So if your worried of prolactin sides cranking up the GH release may not be the smartest move.

 

[SirWanksalot]

Well at lest it's better than my other theory that if you put instant coffee in the microwave, you can go back in time...

Good on paper is a nice start

 

[Zyglamail]

Well at lest it's better than my other theory that if you put instant coffee in the microwave, you can go back in time...

Good on paper is a nice start

Sorry Bro, didnt mean any disrespect, but as we all know if it sounds too good to be true it prolly is

 

[SirWanksalot]

No offense taken at all.

 

[SirWanksalot]

Bumping for more opinions

 

[SirWanksalot]

bump again

 

[ironmaster]

This is an interesting concept, Sirwanks. Have you tried it? I suppose the next logical addition would be ALA for the insulin-like effects. (I would quote that incredible thread on ALA with Fonz and company, but it gives me a migraine everytime I study it)

As for the Zyg's GH points........Zyg, as you pointed out in paragraph 2 of your reply, normal folks have natural defense mechanisms that would down regulate the GH release prior to the occurance of the problems you mentioned in paragraph 3. Acromeglia occurs in people who lack these natural defense mechanisms and is not an aquired disease.

Give this a go, wanks, and let us know.........meanwhile, I KNOW exogenous hGH and insulin will get the job done, but not without expense. (although insulin is cheaper than ALA)

 

[SirWanksalot]

Thanks for the response IronMaster

Your Pic is an inspiration to all.

I am nearly ready to try this regimen. I will soon be taking bromo for weight loss and instead of taking a large (10 to 15 gram) L-glutamine post workout. I will spread dosage throughout day.

On the ALA, I ordered a kilo for $190 (19 cents a gram) and at 3 grams a day, this should last nearly a year.