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Is it possible to reverse the aromatizing effects of nandrolone steroid?

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doll32

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Is it possible to reverse the aromatizing effects of nandrolone steroid?




I ask this question because I took a powder form of the drug at age 20 ( 7 years ago) it was called Deca diboldazol (nandrolone). It might have been a pro hormone that I took.Totally stupid of me. I had no idea of the consequences it had and was dumb at such a young age and thought i wold get muscle from with little working out. I only took two tablets and I then stopped the tabs. i took nothing else.The next day my body was different all over from head to toe. face ( imagine permanent moon face look) legs,arms,stomach etc were all different/fatter and contoured differently.No diet including atkins and very low carb could get back my old body. I tried also an aromasin/novaldex pct which i realise now was pointless but that also did aromatize and the aromasin chiselled my face ever so slighlty overnight as well.I Then had cosmetic surgery abroad with the one of the best surgeons to suck out the fat all over my body and I now don't look much different.



From research it could be something with the androgen receptor and progesterone receptors may have bound together or something and estrogen as accelerated growth fusion or maybe bone growth?





All your opinions are welcome I'd like to know how I can reverse this if its even possible. It does seem nandrolone aromatized as soon as I took that steroid. I understand it could be too late too reverse it but its worth try if someone knows any info they can give me.

 
The half life of deca is 14 days. It'll be out of your body around 2 months after you stop using it. There is NO WAY that deca you used 7 years ago could still be effecting you.

Sounds to me like you naturally have high estrogen levels OR are suffering from some sort of kidney malfunction.

You need to go to a doctor and get blood work done. Retaining a lot of water is a sign that your kidneys are not working properly.

Whatever your problem is though - it has nothing to do with the deca you used 7 years ago.
 
These are the exact ingredients of the steroid that I took which seems that most likely it wasn't pure deca diboldazol or nandrolone. I do realise my endocrine system isnt fully developed until the age of 25 and i was 20 when I took this drug.


I will list the entire ingredients and see what you can make of it.


l-leucine [( 2S ) 2 amino 4 methylpentanoic acid], nettle root extract (urtica dioica), containing 3, 4 divanillyltetrahydrofuran,saw palmetto extract (serenoa repens), containing bis o, [(1-4)-(1 1-6)] a hydroxy phloretin 2-0-glucoside, epicatechin,epiafzelechin, 4 hydroxy benzoic acid, protocatechuic acid, methylgallate,sitosterol and sistosterol 3-0 glucoside,dehydrepiandrosterone (5 androsten-3-beta-hydroxy 17-one,dindolylmethane (3,3- methylenebis - 1H-indole), beta sistosterol ]( 5 stigmasten 3-beta ol )] stigmasterol [5,22-stigma-stadien 3 beta ol)] from phytosterols 90% , ajuga turkestanica extract standardized for ecdysterones containing turkesterone ( 11,20 dihydroxyecdysone) ajugasterone ( 2S,3R,5R,9R,10R,11R,13R,14S,17S)-17-[(2R,3R) 2,3 dihdroxy -6 methylheptan-2-yl] 2,3,11,14 tetra hydroxy,10,13 dimethyl 3,4,5,9,11,12,15,16,17 decahydro, 1H cyclopenta [A] phenanthren-6-one), Cyasterone (2/A,3/A,5/A),22 R, 24s,25s,28r) 2,3,14,20,22 pentahydroxy-26,28 epoxystigmast 7 ene 6,26 dione,adenosine 5 triphosphate disodium (disodium [(2S,3S,4R,5R) 5 (6 aminopurin 9-yl) 3,4 dihodroxyoxolan 2 yl] methoxy hydroxyphosphory, oxy-oxido phosphoryl] hydrogen phospate, carthamus tinctorius seed, containing [(3S, 4S) 4 [3,4 dimeth oxyphenyl) methyl] 3 hydroxy 3 [(methoxy 4 [( 2S, 3R,4S,5R,6R) 3,4,5 trihdroxy 6 ( hydroxymethyl) oxan 2 Y] oxy-phenyl,methyl,oxolan 2 one,forskolin extract, (coleus forskohlii) containing 3R,4aR,5S,6S,6aS,10S,10aR,10bS ,3 ethenyl 6,10,10B trihydroxy- 3,4a,7,7,10a pentamethyl, 1,oxo 5,6,6a,8,9,10, hexahydro 2H benzo [f] chromen 5 yl acetate,piperine (piper nigrum), zinc citrate,


Other ingredients contain gelatin, titanium dioxide,rice flour,magnesium stearate FD&C # Red. Researched by soviet scientist at the institute of the chemistry of plant substances,academy of sciences,republic of Uzbekistan


I got blood work done in 2015 and had full sex hormone panel and they came back fine ( I haven't taken any steroids since) Here are my results. I had a 24-hour urine collection for adrenaline and non adrenaline, a late night saliva test, low-dose dexamethasone suppression test, prolactin of 147,cortisol 299,testosterone 21, SHBG 36.5, Oestradiol 112, TSH 1.01, T 4 13.6,T3 5.2,FSH 2, LH 4, Creatinine 91, EGFR 87, IGF 22 and normal liver function tests and vitamin D. I also tested negative for cushion's syndrome. I have been ruled out for Acromegaly.


My liver was fine. The results are -liver function tests serum-Albumin-serum 40, Total bilibrubin 12- alkaline phosphate serum 66, AST 20, ALT 18, Cholesterol serum 5.6, triglyceride serum 1.9, HDL cholesterol serum 1.20


What was strange was that there was only certain areas the surgeon could liposuction out. As the surgeon said some areas were harder skin instead of soft flabby skin that I had. I explained that this was not muscle to him and I told him it was the steroid that had left me with it permanently.



My face looks aslightly different now as they used a tiny canula to suck out the fat in my lower face and chin. the strange this was that the cosmetic surgeon sucked out the fat on the top of my palm and my foot and hip area which was what the powder steroid I took (2 tablets of deca dibolodazol at age 20) had left me with overnight,however the fat he sucked out didnt remove itself at all and it remains. I have found this very bizarre.



lets just say for example you all give me the benefit of the doubt and the steroid did transform my body which it 100 percent did overnight. I assume there is no way to reverse it and I am stuck with it as no one has any solutions for it?
 
This is a much better picture of me before i took the steroid and another photo of me soon after. I weighed exactly the same and I ate low carb/keto.

Notice my neck is bigger and face is much rounder. I look like a different person almost. Don't give me the "I am older,your face has changed nonsesnse' as my father and grandfather still have the same looking faces as me before i took the steroid.

http://tinypic.com/m/k0r5gl/2


http://i66.tinypic.com/10ckydh.jpg
 
It really doesn't look like you had an adverse reaction to 2 tablets 7 years ago. I've read of a few rare instances where subjects in pharma tests have had serious reactions, even deaths. Where as you look like you filled out a little.

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SteveMobsterG said:
It really doesn't look like you had an adverse reaction to 2 tablets 7 years ago. I've read of a few rare instances where subjects in pharma tests have had serious reactions, even deaths. Where as you look like you filled out a little.

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Thanks steve for the response

What if I did have an rare allergic reaction and it has filled me out which it has,how do i go about reversing it or is it permanent I assume?


To clarify ive taken no more drugs. just two tabs for two weeks when i was 20 (the effects of the steroid occurred next day after 2 tabs) then five years later I did pct aromasin and novaldex on a very low dose and that didnt cure my problem. Im 27 now and havent done steroids since the aromasin in 2015.


You have to see it from my point of view. No one knows what these drugs do. Theres no info.yes,I will say again they changed me overnight and i'm not here to waste anyone's time or that I have body image disorder.

Lets say I do have a rare medical issue how do i go about this? I get FSH,LH and kidney test. say the Results come back normal and then what. Doctors know nothing about prohormones or steroids. My last doc was a waste of time.

I find it extremely difficult to stay positive when something very unusual has happened to me and you're all telling me im nuts. Please give me the benefit of the doubt.

If anyone thinks my face has just changed through aging from the two photos then they are deluded as even if i was fatter. the fat would be spread in different areas not an entire different new shape of face like me after taking them. I look almost like a different person. The shape of my face has totally gone-look again.

 
Ive been told on another forum that My DHEA could have been effected as DHEA was the only hormonal ingredient in that steroid I took.I will get DHEA blood test
 
doll32 said:
Is it possible to reverse the aromatizing effects of nandrolone steroid?




I ask this question because I took a 1 powder form of the drug at age 20 ( 7 years ago) it was called Deca diboldazol (nandrolone). It might have been a pro hormone that I took.Totally stupid of me. I had no idea of the consequences it had and was dumb at such a young age and thought i wold get muscle from with little working out. I only took 1 two tablets and I then stopped the tabs. i took nothing else.The next day my body was different all over from head to toe. face ( imagine permanent moon face look) legs,arms,stomach etc were all different/fatter and contoured differently.No diet including atkins and very low carb could get back my old body. I tried also an aromasin/novaldex pct which i realise now was pointless but that also did aromatize and the 2 aromasin chiselled my face ever so slighlty overnight as well.I Then had cosmetic surgery abroad with the one of the best surgeons to suck out the fat all over my body and 3 I now don't look much different.



From research it could be something with the androgen receptor and progesterone receptors may have bound together or something and estrogen as 4 accelerated growth fusion or maybe bone growth?





All your opinions are welcome I'd like to know how I can reverse this if its even possible. It does seem nandrolone aromatized as soon as I took that steroid. I understand it could be too late too reverse it but its worth try if someone knows any info they can give me.
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Point by point (as to why it seems troll like):
1) I took a powder... or two pills / tabs. Ok which was it?
2) Not only did the two pills work over night but the admittedly wasted PCT chiselled his face over night too. See point 4
3) Admits he doesn't look much different
4) Suggests it's bone growth - which steroids don't affect and no drug affects over night and we know it's not a steroid. How does a PCT reduce bone growth?

Contradictions... lol
 
I will get a DHEA blood test as soon as possible and post the results here. If levels are normal for that test I will get an MRI scan of the pituitary. what do you think?


In answer to some of your question I was so stupid at the time that I had noticed my body had changed overnight after I took that prohormone but I thought nothing of it at all. It was only three years later after i stopped lifting weights as I was in fact eating a keto diet and should have looked and weighed a little less however my body didnt go back to normal and I then decided to do something about it and post on forums.

Here is a few pictures of my body that even the cosmetic surgeon tried to suck out but didn't remove itself and lumps have returned on my hand,foot and hip.

I will add also that after I took the prohormone 7 years ago I had erectile dysfunction for three months after and it came back again in 2017 but I can get it up now with maca root tabs.

I suffer now since 2015 from very low energy. Its always on the back of my mind if that prohormone could have fucked things for me.I take vitamin B12,vitamin c, vitamin d3,Zinc, Iron,Multivitamin, omega 3, calcium,and half a tablet of red kooga natural energy release.

Here are the photos of the lumps on my skin

HIp-

http://i68.tinypic.com/2jae2dy.jpg


Hand-

http://i64.tinypic.com/155rvon.jpg

foot-

http://i67.tinypic.com/sy4f9y.jpg

photo of my legs before taking prohormone-

http://oi64.tinypic.com/zx8bhx.jpg

photo of lower legs after ( I am the same weight notice how much bigger my lower leg is) this isn't muscle as i don't do leg exercises-


http://tinypic.com/m/k128fa/2


photo of full leg ( notice right and left hip stick out)

http://tinypic.com/m/k128fl/2
 
The only place there's a lump, such as it is, is on your foot. And as you can search for yourself, in the history of steroid use no one ever said they had a lump on their foot. And you never mentioned lumps until now. The hand photo is a joke. I can make my hand look like that (well not the bent index finger). That lump is muscle. You're either trolling or you've a serious case of dismorphia.
 
SteveMobsterG said:
The only place there's a lump, such as it is, is on your foot. And as you can search for yourself, in the history of steroid use no one ever said they had a lump on their foot. And you never mentioned lumps until now. The hand photo is a joke. I can make my hand look like that (well not the bent index finger). That lump is muscle. You're either trolling or you've a serious case of dismorphia.
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I can assure you there is a lump on the hand too. it's just hard to photograph.

I'm far from bullshitting on this thread and I do not have body dis morphia. Iv'e already accepted that I have to live with my body but am hoping it can be reversed.


What do you think about a dhea test and the mri pituitary scan?
 
Unless you live on an island you can always ask someone else, someone better at taking photos, to take these photos of lumps.

I think you should have the tests, at your expense of course, and when the results come back as negative (as I think they will) you could also get a doctor to look at the 'lumps' (again at your expense) and post up their report.
 
SteveMobsterG said:
Unless you live on an island you can always ask someone else, someone better at taking photos, to take these photos of lumps.

I think you should have the tests, at your expense of course, and when the results come back as negative (as I think they will) you could also get a doctor to look at the 'lumps' (again at your expense) and post up their report.
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. ok thanks I will get a male hormone panel test and an mri pituitary scan and post the results here and speak with doctor about lumps.
 
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